Blue Foam PLUG! UPDATED v2.0 "THE SLUG" - The Search is over!
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Yes, elcipse is right. You have to align the cart with the coil in the white tray. That's where the super hot coil wire is located. If you don't you will melt the cart on the flat side.
That gurgling sound you are hearing is liquid in the top end of the cart. There is a baffle on the mouth tip end of the cart. You stick a paper clip in the hole and pry the end cap off of the cart. You will notice the liquid trapped in there. This is the only way to get it out.
The liquid gets into this area because of a weak atomizer or battery. Liquid will not bypass the atomizer if it is performing properly and the battery has a good charge. If you hear that gurgling sound it means liquid is bypassing the atomizer.
Kevin
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They are probably the current size because of the poor wicking material - polyfill - used by the inventors. Now that we have some good ideas on wicking material it makes sense, finally, to consider longer carts.
And there is a mod where someone did extend their cartridge using tubing.
This is my First post I have only had my 510 for about a week and I hated the polyfil that came in my stock carts. So at first i tryed the straw mod still I hated all the juice at the left and I kept getting fibers in my atty and crappy vapor production and didnt help with the liquid waste. so I went to the double folded ptb, fraide ptb , loose and tight nothing seemed much differant i always had to top off after about 10 mins of vaping. I hate that so i went and got some of this marineland foam last night from petsmart. i really like it i filled my cart last night almost all the way to the top and cut a sorta plug out of the foam vaped on it for about 2 hours mabe 3 refilled last night and still kicking super strong great filler. looked everything online about the product that i could find, only problem with the polyurethane polyether based foam is that they are made differant ways one is with and alkaline acid and the other is with combustable gas in a chamber and fired. now the down side i still cant find the way this foam is made but the alkaline leaves an acid residue in the foam so im still looking think im going to ask marineland and see if they have the information on this and post back later sorry about the long speach.
I do declare.. I think you are a freaking genious (that's a good thing.. I think) I have noticed declining battery power AND ben thinking it's time for this atty to go.. sooo.. time to order a chuck and strap on a new atty until it gets here... **does the happy dance again..** crap.. i need to stop that in public..
THANKS FOR THE HELP on this. I am leaning towards this being the issue as even the folded mod wasnt stopping the issue much.
That gurgling sound you are hearing is liquid in the top end of the cart. There is a baffle on the mouth tip end of the cart. You stick a paper clip in the hole and pry the end cap off of the cart. You will notice the liquid trapped in there. This is the only way to get it out.
That gurgling sound you are hearing is liquid in the top end of the cart. There is a baffle on the mouth tip end of the cart. You stick a paper clip in the hole and pry the end cap off of the cart. You will notice the liquid trapped in there. This is the only way to get it out.
Whenever I get the juice in the bottom of the cart, all I do is take off the cart, put a tissue or whatever around the top of the cart and blow the juice out - I've never had to remove the bottom of the cart... Anybody else??
That gurgling sound you are hearing is liquid in the top end of the cart. There is a baffle on the mouth tip end of the cart. You stick a paper clip in the hole and pry the end cap off of the cart. You will notice the liquid trapped in there. This is the only way to get it out.
Whenever I get the juice in the bottom of the cart, all I do is take off the cart, put a tissue or whatever around the top of the cart and blow the juice out - I've never had to remove the bottom of the cart... Anybody else??
There are two things that will cause gurgling noises (and they're both related). One is a flooded atty and the gurgling is down in the bowels of the atomizer. Blowing it out will resolve that.
The other is liquid up in the air passages of the cartridge. This is often accompanied by a bit of liquid in the mouth. I've never had to take a cartridge mouthpiece apart to get that out. I just pull the cartridge, put a paper towel over the filler end, and blow through the mouthpiece hard. It all comes out on the paper towel for me.
The other is liquid up in the air passages of the cartridge. This is often accompanied by a bit of liquid in the mouth. I've never had to take a cartridge mouthpiece apart to get that out. I just pull the cartridge, put a paper towel over the filler end, and blow through the mouthpiece hard. It all comes out on the paper towel for me.
How's it holding up Eclypse?
I still haven't had to change the plugs after a week... I did wash them today however.
I still haven't had to change the plugs after a week... I did wash them today however.
Cool to hear that its going strong for 5 days on the same plug! lol.. Crazy. Please keep going till it leaks hehe. It would be good to know just how long it would last as it would be another reason that this plug is a no brainer!
Just using the random size plug and extra thin layer on top.. Working strong. Would of been on the same one for 3-4 days but dropped it in the drain trying to wash it.
Seriously hoping i get my new juice order in the mail tomorrow.
I'm done hunting around for a better cart material, thats forsure. hehe. I've noticed another thread there trying this and that.. why? No idea to be honest.. Happy right here. Just plug it and smoke it!
Actually, with a good atty and strong battery, there really isn't what you could call a flooded atomizer. I have found that a good working system can take a very large amount of juice. Instead of a gurgling sound you will hear a frying sizzle sound, that's a good thing.
Almost any gurgling sound means that juice is getting past the atomizer instead of being vaporized. Sizzle good, gurgle bad.
Kevin
I respect your opinion.. but I don't necessarily agree.... or we're just using different semantics! Probably the latter.
Been playing a LOT over the last week with various things, and I've had the opportunity to flood a LOT of good atomizers with good batteries! I've dumped enough liquid in them that the cavity underneath the coil pot gets filled and it leaks out of the two small side holes at the batter connection. When that happens they will gurgle like crazy and you probably won't be able to vape your way out of it. Just too dern much liquid down there!
This usually happens when you have an overly aggressive feeding system.. and you have the PV vertical for a while (LED end down). The liquid runs down the bridge.. down the sides of the coil pot, and collects under the pot down by the plastic internal nozzle. Then... when you draw... it blows bubbles down there!
But like you said..... the sizzle is GREAT! The gurgling is bad!
I guess my large amount of liquid is less than yours. I forgot that we are dealing with modded carts and possibly could dump a real lot of liquid at once.
I pay a lot of attention to the sounds my PV makes. The sound of the atomizer will tell you a lot about how the PV is performing. I usually will hit the button for about a second or two before I draw on the cart. A lot of times I will put the cart up to my ear and listen for the sizzle. If you get no sound at all, usually you have a problem with the battery, the atomizer, or a dry cart. If you hear nothing you have a problem and best not try to draw on the atty.
Kevin
I pay a lot of attention to the sounds my PV makes. The sound of the atomizer will tell you a lot about how the PV is performing. I usually will hit the button for about a second or two before I draw on the cart. A lot of times I will put the cart up to my ear and listen for the sizzle. If you get no sound at all, usually you have a problem with the battery, the atomizer, or a dry cart. If you hear nothing you have a problem and best not try to draw on the atty.
Kevin
eclypse, so far I prefer version1. I find it easier to put together than the doubled up method.
I just use the width of the foam to fit the width of the cart and eyeball the other dimensions to form the following shape.
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After use it ends up looking more like this with a indentation from the bridge.
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I have still been getting a good seal. I think having a little extra material under the bridge helps prevent leaking once indented.
I have also tried it with Kristen's straw mod and it looks like that helps the plug fit a little tighter to the bridge, but I'm still not sure if it creates a performance boost.
I just use the width of the foam to fit the width of the cart and eyeball the other dimensions to form the following shape.
______
l l
l l
l___l
After use it ends up looking more like this with a indentation from the bridge.
__ __
l l__l l
l l
l___l
I have still been getting a good seal. I think having a little extra material under the bridge helps prevent leaking once indented.
I have also tried it with Kristen's straw mod and it looks like that helps the plug fit a little tighter to the bridge, but I'm still not sure if it creates a performance boost.
Crap that didn't work I tried to use ASCll and when it posted it the format chaged.
The origonal shape is a equilateral trapezoid with the narrow end going into the cart.
After use it ends up with and indentation on top.
After all the work you have been doing I think you will get the idea.
The origonal shape is a equilateral trapezoid with the narrow end going into the cart.
After use it ends up with and indentation on top.
After all the work you have been doing I think you will get the idea.
Ok i have a 510 and this is what i did with the blue foam and ptb double folded and frayed.
I was sitting around last night after a horrible day of flooded attys yesterday at school had to pull out a back up with the ptb mod in it and my back up atty. I wasted so much juice so when i got home i was looking at my carts to see what i had done wrong. I stuck a few upside down on a paper towl and bam after about 10mins the juice was driping on the paper towl. I took them out and was looking at the blue foam and my pyramid tea bags and i had an idea so i cut a thin piece of the blue foam about 1 1/2 in long and folded it in half. Then i wrapped it in the middle of my double folded pyramid tea bag then i cut the bottom of the tea bag to make the frays like the ptb double folded and frayed this actually alowed the blue foam to expand. Its working really well so far I have not had a flooded atty or had a burnt taste and when it ran out i went to refill and everything at the bottom of the cart was gone and almost nothing in the blue foam or tea bag. Had great flavor and vape just thought everyone would like to know if they are having problems with flooding and the blue foam plug i thought it was a nice vape lasted for about 4 1/2 5 hours on a full cart and hardly any juice wasted.
I was sitting around last night after a horrible day of flooded attys yesterday at school had to pull out a back up with the ptb mod in it and my back up atty. I wasted so much juice so when i got home i was looking at my carts to see what i had done wrong. I stuck a few upside down on a paper towl and bam after about 10mins the juice was driping on the paper towl. I took them out and was looking at the blue foam and my pyramid tea bags and i had an idea so i cut a thin piece of the blue foam about 1 1/2 in long and folded it in half. Then i wrapped it in the middle of my double folded pyramid tea bag then i cut the bottom of the tea bag to make the frays like the ptb double folded and frayed this actually alowed the blue foam to expand. Its working really well so far I have not had a flooded atty or had a burnt taste and when it ran out i went to refill and everything at the bottom of the cart was gone and almost nothing in the blue foam or tea bag. Had great flavor and vape just thought everyone would like to know if they are having problems with flooding and the blue foam plug i thought it was a nice vape lasted for about 4 1/2 5 hours on a full cart and hardly any juice wasted.
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eclypse,
Found some grey foam with an identical texture to what your pic shows. Thought I'd give it a try. Its softer than what I'd imagined the blue was, but.........
Works great. Full flavor just like dripping. I'll probably still get the Marine brand. Anything that won't kill a $1000 fish is usually considered safe for humans. lol
I did a little drawing to help people with your mod.
If you take a toothpick and touch the top of the atty bridge and slide your thumb and finger up to the tube, mark it there, that gives you distance A.
Now, put your marked place against the face of the cart and the point of the toothpick gives you distance B. The orange area is the amount of foam that will be touching the atty if the foam is flush with the face of the cart.
If the foam is not flush with the cart face opening, putting the tip of the toothpick at the cart sealing ring and looking at the mark on the toothpick, you can see if your depressed foam will touch the bridge and how much of the foam has to be in the C orange area to touch the bridge.
Hope this helps people in using your mod.
Found some grey foam with an identical texture to what your pic shows. Thought I'd give it a try. Its softer than what I'd imagined the blue was, but.........
Works great. Full flavor just like dripping. I'll probably still get the Marine brand. Anything that won't kill a $1000 fish is usually considered safe for humans. lol
I did a little drawing to help people with your mod.
If you take a toothpick and touch the top of the atty bridge and slide your thumb and finger up to the tube, mark it there, that gives you distance A.
Now, put your marked place against the face of the cart and the point of the toothpick gives you distance B. The orange area is the amount of foam that will be touching the atty if the foam is flush with the face of the cart.
If the foam is not flush with the cart face opening, putting the tip of the toothpick at the cart sealing ring and looking at the mark on the toothpick, you can see if your depressed foam will touch the bridge and how much of the foam has to be in the C orange area to touch the bridge.
Hope this helps people in using your mod.
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IMO, this mod bites. Severely flooded my atty and the juice drained down through to my batt (good thing I use manuals or it might have ruined my batt). I think I'll stick to the straw mod, it's the only one I've tried so far that doesn't flood and works with any consistancy.
I'm sorry you had some bad luck. I have the version 2 mod working perfectly for me on my 510. I've been using the mod carts on my Prodigy and my Protege with no issues at all. I did have to trim the plug slightly so that my Prodigy wouldn't go too lean. I've been able to empty the carts everytime.
I use my own blend of juice that contains about 30% VG and 10% everclear. It is just a little thicker than straight PG. I get no runs, no drips, and no errors so far. I can find no fault with this method so far at all. The cart vapes ferfectly from start to empty.
Kevin
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