Blue Foam PLUG! UPDATED v2.0 "THE SLUG" - The Search is over!

[Scottbee]

Genuine Joye 510 flat tip carts will have the ledge. They have the elongated "O" shaped opening. Vents on both sides.

SLB 901 flat tip carts (whistle tips) do NOT have a ledge, and they had a "D" shaped opening. Vent only on one side.

The SLB 901 carts hold more liquid than the 510 flat tip carts, and the tip is substantially "thinner".

Hope this helps.

 

[eclypse]

Thanks for the info scottbee.. Good to know as i got some genuine joye 510 flats coming hehe. Wish i could of ordered a 901 so i could of tried a 510 cart on it. I guess something else to look forward to in the future.

 

[Scottbee]

What you need to do is get some 901 carts (like from Rob at Vaporkings) and use them on your 510 attys.... it's a wonderful combo.

 

[k lady]

I dunno, eclypse. I just received in the mail some 510 carts that have what I think people are describing as a "whistle tip" that do not have a shelf. The carts that came with my 901 (which I shelved as I prefer the 510) have a flatter tip, like a Swisher Sweet cigarillo.

I cut up a drinking straw, per kristin's instructions a few weeks back, and added it to the whistle tip - works just fine holding up a blue foam plug ( I cut the straw too long to accomodate a slug), plenty of vapor and a good-feeling draw. The whistle tip is a little longer than the round tip and I was able to drip the same 10 drops to fill it up even with the straw undoubtably displacing some liquid.

I'll probably stick with the round tips as I don't mind the shape - after 37 years with analogs my lips are used to it! The disadvantage to the whistle tips, for me, is that if you line the cart up properly with the white base at bottom of the atty, which you've proven to be the right thing to do, the manual switch on the batt is in an awkward position in relation to the flat part of the "whistle." Because the batt screws into the atty where it will, you don't get to choose where you want the manual switch.

I'll be interested to read what you get with your order and how you deal with it.

 

[a2dcovert]

Just thought I would post my update. I have started using a single larger stirring straw in my carts. The blue marineland type u foam seems to loose it's spring tension after a while. I have cut the straw to make it flush with the air vents indentions. It provides better support for the foam. I am also experimenting with Kristin's facial pads . They hold their shape much better and wick better for my Prodigy at 5 volts..

I use only the round tip stock carts on my 510. The plug and reservior cart idea is much superior to anything else I have tried. I also use a juice bottle with a 1" needle to fill the reservior without disturbing the plug.

Kevin

 

[eclypse]

Thanks for the info K Lady.. Forgot all about that prob with not being able to line up the flat tip with the manual button.. Crappy. Yeah i've got some big lips and never had a prob with them.. Infact with my 20 years of smoking, i never crushed my filters either.. so round is all good.. Just wanted to see if i could get the mod working on them to let others no as all this time i've been telling people no flat tip carts.

The facial pads and a straw sounds to complicated for mainstream users. Die hard DIY sure.. but i'm surely not complaining about my slug heh. Never had a prob with the plug either. In fact i've been so happy with everything i have not felt the need to fiddle with my mods atm. I'll see how it is when i try some HV.

 

[eclypse]

NEWS FLASH!...

Xhaler do and donts!!!

"The Slug" gets noticed and endorsed! heh. Honored and Shocked!

 

[vapinferjesus]

Long time lurker, first time posting. First off, I have to say you guys are great. I'm in the process of ending a 20 yr. habit and doing just fine with my 510.

I actually went out and got the blue foam before my e-cig even arrived, and it works SO much better than the stock cartridges. Unfortunately (or maybe not so), my kit came with the whistle-tip carts, and thus didn't have the ledge that been described here. No problem...I simply pulled out one of the soaked but useless filler and cut the foam to roughly the same size--a little narrower on one end if anything to make it easier to insert. Then I filled the empty cart with juice, nearly to the top, slid the foam in and used a tweezers to dunk it into the juice fully, then tugged it out so it was flush with the end of the cart and viola...works like a champ. The material is porous enough that it doesn't displace the juice, causing overflow, yet it still wicks for a good long time and I haven't noticed any leaks to speak of.

Bottom line is that it is a vast improvement over the original equipment and had I not come across this forum, I probably wouldn't have vaped for very long. Now I'm sold. Not missing cigs at all, and it's kind of cool that this has become somewhat of a hobby, rather than just a nasty habit. Thanks again.

 

[eclypse]

Long time lurker, first time posting. First off, I have to say you guys are great. I'm in the process of ending a 20 yr. habit and doing just fine with my 510.

I actually went out and got the blue foam before my e-cig even arrived, and it works SO much better than the stock cartridges. Unfortunately (or maybe not so), my kit came with the whistle-tip carts, and thus didn't have the ledge that been described here. No problem...I simply pulled out one of the soaked but useless filler and cut the foam to roughly the same size--a little narrower on one end if anything to make it easier to insert. Then I filled the empty cart with juice, nearly to the top, slid the foam in and used a tweezers to dunk it into the juice fully, then tugged it out so it was flush with the end of the cart and viola...works like a champ. The material is porous enough that it doesn't displace the juice, causing overflow, yet it still wicks for a good long time and I haven't noticed any leaks to speak of.

Bottom line is that it is a vast improvement over the original equipment and had I not come across this forum, I probably wouldn't have vaped for very long. Now I'm sold. Not missing cigs at all, and it's kind of cool that this has become somewhat of a hobby, rather than just a nasty habit. Thanks again.

Thanks for coming out of the shadows and sharing!

Your method is just like this mod Eheim filterpad mod

I never had any luck with the original full foam cart mod. Worked simular to poly.. nice first 4 hits and then down hill. The filler would be too thick and hold alot of juice and not wicking good.

If a little plug will hold the juice, no reason to waste by filling up the whole cart. Try adding a straw standing in the cart about a 1/4 inch down.. though you may want to get a good measurement of how far down the atty bridge is first. Cut a V at the bottom of the straw in a ^ shape so it wont trap any juice in and around the straw in the juice chamber. Insert "The Slug" after filling the cart almost to the top. Vape away.

Though you may want to look in Reservoir Straw & Plug Mod (RSP Mod) for better ideas on how to cut the straw.

I'll be going down that road with the 801 soon.. unless i find something better, thogh the straw would seem easy enough.

 

[bogiediver]

Blue Foam variation

OK – I too had a post go poof… WTF…


I have tried a variation with the blue foam (Marineland Rite-Size U Bonded Foam Sleeve; aka - Eheim filterpad, aka - blue reticulated foam) for 510 carts…

(I apparently do not have enough seniority to attach files yet, I have a PDF with illustrations and pictures…)

I cut the 1/4” (6.35 mm) thick foam as follows:

Initial rectangular cut – 10mm X 25mm

Then I cut the lower portion of the rectangle into a point:
- staring at a point 7 mm from the top, along the 25 mm side
- angle cut to a point at the center of the 10 mm bottom.

(tried a very crude illustration trying to use keyboard characters, but the post automatically removes extra spaces - geez... )

The opening of a 510 cart (where it meets the atty) has the following dimensions:

- rounded portion to rounded portion – 7 mm long
- flat side to flat side – 5 mm wide
- top to the lipped edge inside – 7 mm deep
(hence starting the taper cut at 7 mm)

Insert the point into the cart opening; using a straightened paperclip, work it in until the point is at the ‘bottom’ of the cart liquid cavity. This will require compressing the foam near the top – this creates the ‘seal’ to prevent from leaking.

The top portion of the final cut foam (the rectangle portion prior to the taper) is:
- 10 mm – which gets compressed into the 7 mm long portion of the cart
BY
- 6.35 mm - which gets compressed into the 5 mm wide portion of the cart
BY
- 7 mm – the depth of the inside ‘edge’
Then it tapers to a point at 25 mm, which is the overall depth of the cart tank.

The taper serves a couple of purposes:
- supports the foam against the atty
- wicks the liquid into the tank during filling; toward the atty during vaping

A one material variation (that is working well for me) of the ‘plug + spring (or straw)’ mod.

I can get 15-20 drops of a 50/50 VG/PG liquid into this (depending on the size of the drops) without having to remove the foam, don’t even have to push it to one side as I saw recommended somewhere. Just have patience while dripping.

Vapes strong right to the end.

A couple of times, out of curiosity, I removed the foam after vaping on it for a good, long time; pressed it between some paper towels – no liquid squeezed out. Also left the cart, open side down, on the paper for over an hour – again, no liquid. Seemed like it totally emptied it…

Still out of curiosity, I dripped 12 drops into the cart without the filler. Then I pushed the foam in – none of the liquid was pushed out. After I got the foam situated correctly, I was able to add 4 additional drops…

Just my $0.02

-bogie

 

[vapinferjesus]

Your method is just like this mod Eheim filterpad mod

Hi Eclypse...I checked out that mod and that is not what I meant to describe. I'm simply replacing the original filler with a piece of foam of about the same size, that's all. I can fill the cart almost to the top before I put the foam back in, vapor is consistent from start to finish, it lasts a long time and it hasn't leaked on the two that I did this to.

Oh and BTW my 510 whistle-tip carts don't have that same ledge you have pictured. There is a ledge, but it's further down the cart and angles away from the atomizer end, basically where the outside flattens out. So even if a made a plug to stop at that point, I don't think the ledge will hold and I wouldn't get as much juice into it as I do now. Like I said, that stuff is so porous, you can fill nearly to the top and you'd think it would overflow when you put the foam back in but it doesn't.

Anyhow...KISS works for me and that's all that matters. Have a great weekend.

 

[bogiediver]

If this works - the images I was trying to post...

You'll need to cut and paste this, removing the extra spaces and replacing the [ dot ] with a '.' - duh... cuz I can't post links yet either - geez

http: //imgur[ dot ]com/9gf0i.png

-bogie

 

[bogiediver]

Oh boy - only 7 more posts until I'm out of the dog house...

six after this one...

 

[tpboles]

Maybe a stupid question so bear with me here.

Would the extra foam that is in the kr808 box work as a plug? Maybe some of you guys here that have a 808d could check your box and let me know. It seems like the right consistency for the job.

 

[eclypse]

Hi Eclypse...I checked out that mod and that is not what I meant to describe. I'm simply replacing the original filler with a piece of foam of about the same size, that's all. I can fill the cart almost to the top before I put the foam back in, vapor is consistent from start to finish, it lasts a long time and it hasn't leaked on the two that I did this to.

Oh and BTW my 510 whistle-tip carts don't have that same ledge you have pictured. There is a ledge, but it's further down the cart and angles away from the atomizer end, basically where the outside flattens out. So even if a made a plug to stop at that point, I don't think the ledge will hold and I wouldn't get as much juice into it as I do now. Like I said, that stuff is so porous, you can fill nearly to the top and you'd think it would overflow when you put the foam back in but it doesn't.

Anyhow...KISS works for me and that's all that matters. Have a great weekend.

Thanks for the info.. ledge or no ledge no matter.

If this works - the images I was trying to post...

You'll need to cut and paste this, removing the extra spaces and replacing the [ dot ] with a '.' - duh... cuz I can't post links yet either - geez

http: //imgur[ dot ]com/9gf0i.png

-bogie

Might want to start a new thread for that mod..

Maybe a stupid question so bear with me here.

Would the extra foam that is in the kr808 box work as a plug? Maybe some of you guys here that have a 808d could check your box and let me know. It seems like the right consistency for the job.

No idea as i've never owned a kr808. Might want to try or ask at a kr808 form.


All day today i've been doing the slug differently and its working great. I'll share it on Monday when i get time to do so.. i'm too busy on the weekends.

Working so fine everytime that it takes for freakin ever to emtpy it! Sucks when you want to try a cart of a new flavor!

Runing 2 different ecigs at a time with the same mod.. When i get time i'll sit down and make one up with the slug and the other with the new mod and use the same hardware on both and with a fresh charged battery on each and see which one lasts longer! hehe..

I tried to do this in the morning and i noticed that with the new mod the atty was'nt getting hot like the old mod. Just warm. i was chain vaping one hit on one exhale and then i hit the other mod. I did that back and forth for probably over 20 mins straight and it was rediculous as neither one wanted to dry up lol.. Both were good but the new mod wicked alot better and the flavor was there. When i finally emptied the cart i pulled the slug and set it on a paper towel to look in the cart with a flashlight to see if there was anything left in the tank.. nothing! And the crazy thing was that the slug was totally dry! Not like normal where theres like a drop or so left in the slug and the towel would be wet under it. Totally freakin dry.

So cooler runing atty with the different mod means it should be awesome with high voltage.

 

[Winace]

I've been using a blue foam plug for a few weeks now. My search is over for stock carts. I went from the ehiem mod, to the ADM mod, to just a plain plug. My plug is a bit smaller than yours. I cut it 1.5X the width and 1.5X the length of the cart opening. Fill and plug. I use both round tips and flat tips with no difference. I put the plug flush and let the atomizer bridge set it to its depth.

A few tips for new users to this type of mod:

Do not turn the cart once you put it on the atomizer.

Be sure to install the cart in the correct orientation to the bridge (small edge of cart opening should match up with the flat side of the atomizer bridge). This is hard to explain without pictures, sorry.

When you get a strong flavor hit (I call it a fume hit) the liquid in the cart is gone, although your bridge and foam are still saturated. I refill when this happens. This assures my atomizer never runs dry.

 

[ZorbaTheGreek]

Yeah, right before mine goes dry I can taste a difference, but it's not until the thing is very near totally dry. This mod is just be bees knees in my book. So easy to work with the foam when refilling. It's a snap to fill 2-3 carts at a time and you know they'll be hot and ready when you need them.

 

[kristin]

Eclypse - what are the final measurements you settled on?

 

[eclypse]

Eclypse - what are the final measurements you settled on?

There the same as in the original posts for each... I believe thats it.

Another verison on the way though

 

[Kent C]

My plug is a bit smaller than yours. I cut it 1.5X the width and 1.5X the length of the cart opening.

That is all that's needed really - and what eclypse says about using a straw - 'less real estate' - is also true of the foam - I use only as much as needed to stop leaks.