Blue Foam PLUG! UPDATED v2.0 "THE SLUG" - The Search is over!

[eclypse]

hehe.. I notched my straws in the shotgun slug.. i'd still remove the plug and see juice down inside. If i notched them on the short side of the cart the straw would curl up and end up making the straw smaller at the bottom. If i cut the V on the lon side of the cart it would just seal up against the walls of the cart so no opening for air flow.

Thats why i told everyone to forget the mod as its holding juice.

The straw worked great in my 2.5x plus cart mod as i used a bent over straw and bent it at the flexable end. that way will would not hold air and that thing works the best out of anything i've done as the atty is getting fed and theres a lot of juice in the cart.. lasted forever it seems.. Stoped playing with it to fix the probs with the current plug.

 

[kristin]

As i mentioned.. you hav'nt tried it for yourslef and your going off of information that ad2 is saying

Actually, I have been going off what YOU have been saying about it and reports back in this thread and others about it over time. I know the consistancy of the materials I've been using and based on the photos of the blue foam and reports of how it is behaving, it seems obvious that it's just not resiliant enough for the job of a plug, especially without something to support it. But I keep watching for you to come up with something that works, so I haven't given up on it - I'm just not going to spend the money before it's shown to actually work. So far, everything else I've purchased can be used for it's original purpose, if it doesn't work, but I don't have a fish tank, lol!

 

[kristin]

hehe.. I notched my straws in the shotgun slug.. i'd still remove the plug and see juice down inside. If i notched them on the short side of the cart the straw would curl up and end up making the straw smaller at the bottom. If i cut the V on the lon side of the cart it would just seal up against the walls of the cart so no opening for air flow.

Thats why i told everyone to forget the mod as its holding juice.

Your shotgun design was the problem, not the straw concept. I could see that was going to be a problem as soon as you posted it. You were filling too much of the cart and using too small of a diameter that way. The single straw width is wide enough to work with the viscocity of most liquids - too skinny of a tube and the liquid is too think for the air to push it through. Think of trying to suck a shake through a regular straw vs through a coffee stirrer. Much easier with a wider straw.

 

[Scottbee]

True - you use the spring vertically though. What material have you been using for the plug?

Still my old favorite Blue Scrubbie from my "plug factory".

But.... after I make up a batch of them I'll toss them in a medicine bottle full of PGA.. shake.. and let it sit overnight. This is/was done to get rid of the loose particles that came from the "punching" process. Could be why I don't have a "taste" problem.

 

[a2dcovert]

Like I said, Kristin, it's like talking to a tree.

 

[eclypse]

Actually, I have been going off what YOU have been saying about it and reports back in this thread and others about it over time. I know the consistancy of the materials I've been using and based on the photos of the blue foam and reports of how it is behaving, it seems obvious that it's just not resiliant enough for the job of a plug, especially without something to support it. But I keep watching for you to come up with something that works, so I haven't given up on it - I'm just not going to spend the money before it's shown to actually work. So far, everything else I've purchased can be used for it's original purpose, if it doesn't work, but I don't have a fish tank, lol!

Nope.. if i would say that then i would be admiting that it dont work good and would'nt use it.

Been using the slug since the day i invented it.. I made it for the thicker juice before i even had any to try it with. People seemed to love it. I've been using it with thin and thick juice no problems.. the original slug was a pain to cut perfectly and get consistancy with.. Alot of people also like the original more.

Your shotgun design was the problem, not the straw concept. I could see that was going to be a problem as soon as you posted it. You were filling too much of the cart and using too small of a diameter that way. The single straw width is wide enough to work with the viscocity of most liquids - too skinny of a tube and the liquid is too think for the air to push it through. Think of trying to suck a shake through a regular straw vs through a coffee stirrer. Much easier with a wider straw.

Possably.. but i was again going for consistantcy in straw making and felt the double straw was bridge better then having the slug fall down in the straw.

Since i had flat tip carts on order i decided to see how i'd do it and to see if there was any difference since i also try others mods unlike some! hehe. Though the flat tip 510s i got still had the inner lips.

 

[eclypse]

Like I said, Kristin, it's like talking to a tree.

I will end this conversation mentioning that everytime i come up with a new version of the slug you guys always seem to flock to my thread and talk about your mod... Hmm. WTF is with that? Are you spamin my thread to burry my post? Seems about right as all 3 of you work on the RSP mod.


When have i ever come to your thread and talk about my mod?? Or any other mod?? Seems rude to try to derail the thread like that.

 

[eclypse]

Oh and Kristin.. you could just ask and i could just send you an envolope full of blue foam as i now have 5+ bags full of it.

I did the same for someone else free of charge.. well they did send me some cartos to check out the mod they done with it.

 

[Nietzsc]

C'mon guys, you're making a big deal of it. as far as I know nobody has come up with the perfect cart mod, so just keep working on them...

 

[aflatau]

I am using ver.1 of this mod - and i still find my self topping off all the time - if I dont the foam gets dry and i get the burnt taste(YUCK!) - is there a way around this?

 

[kristin]

Still my old favorite Blue Scrubbie from my "plug factory".

But.... after I make up a batch of them I'll toss them in a medicine bottle full of PGA.. shake.. and let it sit overnight. This is/was done to get rid of the loose particles that came from the "punching" process. Could be why I don't have a "taste" problem.

Thanks Scott. I still have a bunch of blue scrubbies. I liked how it worked - just hated the taste after a while! I'll give that a try. I like Scotty's silicone plug a lot, too, but having difficulty replicating it a second time!

 

[nubee]

sorry I'm late....traffic

 

[kristin]

I will end this conversation mentioning that everytime i come up with a new version of the slug you guys always seem to flock to my thread and talk about your mod... Hmm. WTF is with that? Are you spamin my thread to burry my post? Seems about right as all 3 of you work on the RSP mod.


When have i ever come to your thread and talk about my mod?? Or any other mod?? Seems rude to try to derail the thread like that.

I've only come to this thread to see what you've come up with and follow your progress and comment on the coversation, but yes, I have seen you mention your mod in other threads. No big deal.

But that isn't the point - the point is that we all work together to get a great mod and contribute. People come in and critique my mods/ideas all of the time and I'm open to suggestions and I'm willing to change - even if their idea is better than mine. I enjoy the spirit of the community working together and off each other's ideas. We also give each other credit when we work off of someone else's ideas. Sometimes you don't seem to want anything but glowing accolades, so I guess I'll stay out of your thread now.

 

[kristin]

I am using ver.1 of this mod - and i still find my self topping off all the time - if I dont the foam gets dry and i get the burnt taste(YUCK!) - is there a way around this?

OK, I can't help it, but case in point. Exactly the same complaint as every other filler - including one's I've suggested.

I'm not saying that I'm right and you're wrong or trying to sabotoge your thread, Eclypse. I was just saying why I haven't tried the blue foam yet.

I'll still check in on you, to see if you get it to work because that is the whole point of this forum, but I won't comment any longer. I don't want to be accused of being a troll in your thread.

 

[a2dcovert]

Here is the straw I am currently using. As you can see there is no chance that it traps air. Now whether or not I have the marineland foam or the pb, or whatever, my only goal is to get the biggest reservoir and best wicking filler. The small piece is just included to show how much of the straw I removed.

Nothing personal eclypse, you take this all too personally and act as any bad mention of the blue foam is an attack on you. It's not. When I get something positive, I post it. When I get something negative, I post it. it's all designed to make the "cart" better.

 

[soylent]

I am using ver.1 of this mod - and i still find my self topping off all the time - if I dont the foam gets dry and i get the burnt taste(YUCK!) - is there a way around this?

Yes there is!

If your atty is getting dry from the slug then you can trim down the slug so it doesn't go into your cart as deep. Or, if you have to work to get the width to fit, you can trim that up some so you don't condense the foam as much.

The downside of this is you become more prone to leaks, but there is definitely a happy medium.

If it helps, most the slugs I've made that have worked really well end up being square.

 

[eclypse]

I am using ver.1 of this mod - and i still find my self topping off all the time - if I dont the foam gets dry and i get the burnt taste(YUCK!) - is there a way around this?

Let the maker of the mod help and point out the fix please lol.

Its all in how you hold your cig. If you keep it straight up with the cart on top the juice will hold.. Like in your pocket or how must stand there mods on a flat surface. The juice will flow down to the plug when you hold the cig at a 45 degree angle. The juice will follow the wall down other then that it will just sit there as its uder air pressure.

Also you could be hitting it too hard or too often, not allowing the juice time to flow to the plug. WHen that happens the plug will become full of air and create an air barrier that the juice wont penetrate. Again, this may happen if you lay your cig sideways on a flat surface or upside down with the cart on the bottom and the plug could run dry.

Yeah a dry atty that has the burnt taste in the past is nasty! hehe. Also its a great tool to have as it will aleart you when your runing lean or your cart is about empty. So i look at it as a possitive learning/warning tool.

 

[soylent]

Let the maker of the mod help and point out the fix please lol.

That was a bit conceited, but w/e... I'll stay out of your thread.

 

[eclypse]

That was a bit conceited, but w/e... I'll stay out of your thread.

Was'nt trying?? But whatever.

Newest version.. unfinished mod post - Blue Foam plug Version 3 "Blue Foam Bridge"

Feel i have to post a link since so many baried it with all the unrelated posts.

 

[eclypse]

Interesting find tonight.. the other new mod ended up not working right in the end.. would love to know why as the damn thing worked great for the first 5 refills. In the end the draw off of it was too hard.. pull the cart off and the plug was nice and wet. So i tossed that one out.

What i tried next dont really make sense but its kinda just like the bridge mod. What it is, is a fliped over slug! That was working good but i thought it might be better to make it a hair thicker so i'm using a slug thats 1/4" wide by 3/4" long.

I'm sure those of you that are using the slug can easily try this out. hehe

Just flip the slug over! Sits higher then the regular plug, no leakage like the bridge as its catching the juice flow from the edge and directing it to the center of the slug. Small enough to not clogg up so its still able to breath.

And the best part is that its great for high voltage as the sides of the fliped slug are not near the coil like the slug was before.

I have been using it for the past 3 hours or so.. If its good in the morning as well i'll make it final.