Booze carts?

[Sykkelspruce]

So the idea isn't one I intend/want to try but i have seen people say adding 151 to make more vapor and blah blah.

vaping booze would in fact put alcohol into you bloodstream correct?

So adding 151 or whatever assuming you vape pretty heavy could possibly get ya a Dewey or something huh?

Maybe a dumb question but I do recall the bars that you could "breath in alcohol" and get drunk.

Different concept?

Alcohol without liquid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Dingjan]

I'm only a noob to vaping so prob an invalid point but even with an exceptionally strong alcohol wouldn't you only be able to fit a few ml into a cart meaning even continual vaping wouldn't amount to much alcohol intake. Although the idea does sound pretty awesome

 

[jctennis]

If you find out let me know... i put vodka in almost all my juice to cut the thickness. (i use VG)

 

[VictoryNotVengence]

I add 10% everclear to some juices to add TH. if I were to vape that juice all day I might intake 7-8 drops of alcohol, which would change my blood alchol level non. its not even half a shot.

 

[keyzygirl]

Its a very minute amount.

 

[Sykkelspruce]

Yeah come to think of it I guess you really couldn't get much from it. I figured smaller amounts directly into the bloodstream may do something but if people are cutting their juice with it I guess not.

It would be interesting if we could get drunk with these things. Ha.

 

[dg99]

Well even though consumption is low, don't forget since the alcohol doesn't have to permeate your digestive tract, it may be possible to absorb more. When you take a shot, I doubt all of the alcohol consumed ends up going into your blood, whereas the capilaries your lungs are more absorbant. Just a thought, I dont have any research to back it up.

Similarly, since your rectum/large intestine is more permeable, if you pour a shot "where the sun don't shine" you can get drunk (unfortunately, no experience with that one but I believe it's been proven and it does make theoretical sense)

 

[Sykkelspruce]

Pretty sure this was dont on a CKY or jackass movie. From what I remember the dude was trashed!

 

[Guineahill]

It will get into your bloodstream, but there is very, very, very little used in e-liquids in the first place! It is sometimes used for throat hit and to emulsify oils. I couldn't vape enough in one day to actually have it come close to as much as I would get in one dose of cough syrup!

 

[Kurt]

Actually, I used to thin my VG juices with 10% alcohol, but I really felt I was feeling its effects. In fact, inhaled alcohol that enters the lungs goes right to the brain. Some may notice this, and some may not. I did. I do martial arts and balance and equilibrium are very important, and any small loss of those is noticeable to me. But then I do not drink much at all, and I'm very sensitive to alcohol's effects. I changed to thinning my juices with distilled water instead, and the problems went away. And the juices vape about as well as with alcohol.

As I said, though, not everyone would necessarily feel this. And your blood alcohol content would not be elevated much at all, although I don't know what a breath test would say. This topic has come up in the DIY Liquid forum (search for alcohol will probably find the threads). Many here use about a 10% PGA or vodka or 151 mix in their juices with no ill effects. Some have been concerned about breath tests at work, and I don't know what would happen in that situation.

 

[Vaerez]

This is merely a supposition, but wouldn't the majority of the alcohol be stripped away with the heat of the atty, or at the very least nonabsorbent by the human lungs?

Forgive me, but my degree is in Political Science, and not "actual science".

 

[dg99]

This is merely a supposition, but wouldn't the majority of the alcohol be stripped away with the heat of the atty, or at the very least nonabsorbent by the human lungs?

Forgive me, but my degree is in Political Science, and not "actual science".

Alcohol vaporized is still very much alcohol, regardless of temperature. High temps won't "strip it away", I think it comes down to how effective the capillaries in the human lung are at diffusing the alcohol vapor.

 

[Kurt]

Alcohol vaporized is still very much alcohol, regardless of temperature. High temps won't "strip it away", I think it comes down to how effective the capillaries in the human lung are at diffusing the alcohol vapor.

Correct. Nothing in ejuice is "cooked" only vaporized. Depending on how you hit on the PV you may or may not absorb the alcohol through the lungs much. Some will absorb orally, certainly. There are many factors that dictate how much goes in through the lungs, and there are also, like with drinking, many factors that dictate how it will affect you. Some people can drink like a fish and feel very little, others, like me, are done with one beer. But alcohol in ejuice is most certainly vaporized and some of it is absorbed...has to be.

This is by no means a judgment call on those that use alcohol to thin juices. I wish I could, as the flavor and airiness of the vapor is better, but it affects me both physically and mentally. If you don't think you feel the effects of it, you probably don't. For me, using distilled water to thin is just fine, very good TH and about 95% of the vapor of alcohol, although I never used PGA, only vodka, so there was a little water in those juices too.

BTW, I have advanced degrees in organic and physical chemistry, and have taught college organic, general and physical chemistry for about 30 years. Vaping is so cool to me because it is all chemistry!

 

[dg99]

BTW, I have advanced degrees in organic and physical chemistry, and have taught college organic, general and physical chemistry for about 30 years. Vaping is so cool to me because it is all chemistry!

I also find the chemistry in vaping cool, I'm a second year science student at UBC

 

[Dfib]

Actually, I used to thin my VG juices with 10% alcohol, but I really felt I was feeling its effects. In fact, inhaled alcohol that enters the lungs goes right to the brain...

+1

You could also get a good ETOH (alcohol) hit if you were to french inhale.
The nasal mucosa is quite vascular and there is a well documented nasal-brain pathway that is often used for medication administration.

Actually any way that you take in ETOH other than drinking/eating will give you more of a buzz since it doesn't enter portal circulation (gut to liver) and doesn't suffer from first pass metabolism.

Never tried any ETOH in juice, but imagine if you were to chain vape some you could catch a buzz.

That being said vape safe!

 

[Kurt]

I also find the chemistry in vaping cool, I'm a second year science student at UBC

Ah, so you are taking organic now? That was the course that told me, yep, I want to do this stuff forever. Never looked back, although now I do all quantum chemistry on computers. Started to get tired of being around toxins all the time in a wet lab. So what is the wet stuff I deal with now? A solution so toxic it could kill hundreds...100 mg nic juice. Life is funny.

Dfib: you are very correct on that. Glad there is someone else here that understands this. Ever use a brandy pipe? Its a glass pipe which you put brandy or cognac in the bowl and then just inhale the vapors through the mouth piece. You can get VERY buzzed on about only a few mL. Not a good buzz though, more like a narcotic. Very sleepy and stupid, and way strong. The feeling I got from the 10% vodka juices was sort of a low-grade feeling similar to that. Not good for mathematical research or martial arts... and I don't do drunken boxing style...yet. Like drinking, it just sort of dulled my energy and balance, and kept me from being enthusiastic or very effective at anything. Didn't affect driving that I could tell, but it could have eventually.

 

[dg99]

Ah, so you are taking organic now? That was the course that told me, yep, I want to do this stuff forever. Never looked back, although now I do all quantum chemistry on computers. Started to get tired of being around toxins all the time in a wet lab. So what is the wet stuff I deal with now? A solution so toxic it could kill hundreds...100 mg nic juice. Life is funny.

I took organic last semester, challenging course for sure but it has been one of my favorites to date. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but can't really say the same about physical chem this term My organic prof was an excellent teacher, and conveyed the material well (she's also easy on the eyes ), can't say the same about my seemingly incompetent phys chem prof...

Since we have an organic chemist here, maybe you can shed some insight on the lactic acid produced from vaping PG. Aside from building up and causing muscle soreness, do you think it has adverse effects on our health? I've been curious

 

[VaporMadness]

I've been vaping Rath Lemonade all weekend, the bottle says "contains alcohol". I haven't noticed any affect.

 

[Unperson]

When I first heard of alcohol flavored juice, I wasn't worried about getting drunk off of them. I figured they were just 'flavor', not actual booze.

I know some people use actual booze for dripping/dipping, etc.. Out of curiosity, I ordered "whiskey" flavored juice (which I haven't received yet). I'm a big Dewers fan, so I'll be curious as to how the juice tastes.

 

[martha1014]

i have added a couple of drops directly on my atomizers with eliquid.It gave a strong throat hit and I could actually feel the 190 proof of Enclear. I sometimes add a little to my eliquid.