Boycott state farm

[535cheetah]

never used them.... never will, someone that does use them right now should print out this forum thread and send it to them with their cancellation of insurance lmao.... Prolly wouldn't do anything, but would be funny.

ya the places that dont let you smoke/vape in your car .... can kiss my ...!!!! i do it anyway.

revolution time!! time to take back our country from the crooked government and business's

 

[GrimmGreen]

i'm keeping my libertarian mouth shut this time.

 

[smonomo]

Seriously...how in the hell would they ever know if you are vaping in your own friggin' car? This is just ludicrous!

Like I said, a few fanatics at the top have gone off the deep end..

The next step will be to try to prohibit the discussion, and possession of images of tobacco, tobacco related products, smoking and vaping devices by all employees...

You think that sounds far fetched?....think again....It's about the equivalent of telling me that I'm not allowed to chew tobacco, or vape, or smoke in my car in their parking lot. I would treat it with the contempt it deserves.

 

[Brewster 59]

My point is this isn't the first employer to pass these kind of rules. Some companies are even testing for nic which is an invasion of privacy and peoples rights. Its one thing to test for illegal substances its quite another to deny employment for use of something that is legal. Where does this stop? Perhaps if enough people refused to do business with companies that do these practices it may deter at least some companies from adopting these type policies.

 

[GrimmGreen]

My point is this isn't the first employer to pass these kind of rules. Some companies are even testing for nic which is an invasion of privacy and peoples rights. Its one thing to test for illegal substances its quite another to deny employment for use of something that is legal. Where does this stop? Perhaps if enough people refused to do business with companies that do these practices it may deter at least some companies from adopting these type policies.

alright... get ready to hate me , .... a private company , can hire whomever they want ... and not hire whomever they want , based on anything they want , race aside... if they refuse to hire anybody with brown hair , then so be it , i feel it's wrong... but they are free to do so... and we as consumers and citizens can choose weather or not we want to support ... or not support them... :END LIBERTARIAN RANT:

 

[Mac]

alright... get ready to hate me , .... a private company , can hire whomever they want ... and not hire whomever they want , based on anything they want , race aside... if they refuse to hire anybody with brown hair , then so be it , i feel it's wrong... but they are free to do so... and we as consumers and citizens can choose weather or not we want to support ... or not support them... :END LIBERTARIAN RANT:

Exactly. They can be douchebags if they want. And we can choose not to give them our hard earned money because of it.

 

[oldlady]

Obviously, I agree with GrimmGreen.

However, e-cigs negate every whining, "holier-than-thou" complaint non-smokers ever had about smoking. The fact that these people are still trying to ban us only proves what we suspected in high school: smokers are cooler people!

I know this conclusion seems a bit outlandish, but seriously when was the last time you saw a smoker, vaper, or pothead carry on about anything somebody else was doing?

 

[SheerLuckHolmes]

i'm keeping my libertarian mouth shut this time.

How about speaking out of your conservative as* or blowing it out of your socialist nose?

Sorry just couldn't resist... And I really tried.

 

[cliff5550]

Careful guys. I found out just the other night that if you say the honest, but wrong thing, to the wrong person on forums it gets real stupid, real fast. Some in here have very thin skin.

 

[illuminist]

I'm going to have to agree with Mac and Brewster on this one. Tate Arm is a corporation, and like all corporations, they exist to make money. If they get the sense that they will not be making as much money because of a policy of theirs (like for example this particular wrongheaded and puritanical one), they are much more likely to change the policy than if no one speaks up about it. Personally, I use a different company for my insurance and have for quite some time, but I applaud those who would cancel their insurance with Tate Arm and let them know that it has to do with this no-vaping-in-the-car nonsense.

 

[Kimber]

So, as a non-customer, what exactly are they going to do if someone pulls in their parking lot and vapes? It's not illegal. I think someone should volunteer to find out. Ooh, ooh pick me! pick me!

 

[Reign]

Aren't there bigger fish to fry? Was anyone surprised?

 

[Kimber]

Aren't there bigger fish to fry? Was anyone surprised?

Probably but little fish turn into big fish if you ignore them. Unless they're in your fish tank of course, then they will just starve to death.

 

[Reign]

State Farm will never be a big fish. No bigger than any other corp out there. Governement is where your real concerns should lay. and forget about the company policies that dont affect anyone but the company.

I have allstate, but I never go to an allstate office, never have and never will. So if they made the same policy, it would have no effect on me whatsoever.

So really, Who cares what a company decides to do....how is it any different than bars not allowing vaping? This buisiness doesnt want any form of tobacco smoking, or anything that resembles it on their premises. At least they are upfront about it. Sitting here complaining on this forum will never change their position.

 

[smonomo]

State Farm will never be a big fish. No bigger than any other corp out there. Governement is where your real concerns should lay. and forget about the company policies that dont affect anyone but the company.

I have allstate, but I never go to an allstate office, never have and never will. So if they made the same policy, it would have no effect on me whatsoever.

So really, Who cares what a company decides to do....how is it any different than bars not allowing vaping? This buisiness doesnt want any form of tobacco smoking, or anything that resembles it on their premises. At least they are upfront about it. Sitting here complaining on this forum will never change their position.

Probably too late for you, but here, give it a read anyway..

First they came... - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia...

 

[Kimber]

State Farm will never be a big fish. No bigger than any other corp out there. Governement is where your real concerns should lay. and forget about the company policies that dont affect anyone but the company.

I have allstate, but I never go to an allstate office, never have and never will. So if they made the same policy, it would have no effect on me whatsoever.

So really, Who cares what a company decides to do....how is it any different than bars not allowing vaping? This buisiness doesnt want any form of tobacco smoking, or anything that resembles it on their premises. At least they are upfront about it. Sitting here complaining on this forum will never change their position.

If it works well for State Farm, other companies may adopt the policy (just like State Farm did). If it works well for all of the corporations, the states may adopt the policy, etc.

It's a chain reaction. The little fish gets eaten by the bigger fish which gets eaten by the bigger fish... In theory, the biggest fish eats what the smallest fish ate. If we don't stop the small fish, we don't stand a chance against the big fish.

Boycotting State Farm probably isn't going to stop them but the whole point behind this thread is to say enough is enough. To quote one of the most influential artists of all time "Get up, stand up. Stand up for your rights"-Bob Marley

You're welcome for getting that song stuck in your head!

 

[crazybry79]

https://online.statefarm.com/apps/contactSF/pages/commentsSuggestions.asp

Email them. Tell them you are dropping your policy(ies) AND tell them why. If you don't use them, email them and tell them why you won't use them.

Exactly right, small fish, big fish. Nip this thing in the budd while it's still controlable.

And to sit there and say 'you're wasting your time' is kind of redundant. The amount of time it took to post an ignorant statement, COULD have been used on writing an inteligent letter to legistlature.....or Tate Arm....or any other right wing non smoker group...

Every drop in the bucket counts!

 

[SmilingSlasher]

Just vape it in the stall.... it will be just like high school.

That's so funny. My Aunt is a school teacher and when I showed her my PV, the first thing she said was "I need one of those, so I can smoke in the bathroom at work, without the smell of the smoke." LOL

 

[Reign]

If it works well for State Farm, other companies may adopt the policy (just like State Farm did). If it works well for all of the corporations, the states may adopt the policy, etc.

It's a chain reaction. The little fish gets eaten by the bigger fish which gets eaten by the bigger fish... In theory, the biggest fish eats what the smallest fish ate. If we don't stop the small fish, we don't stand a chance against the big fish.

Boycotting State Farm probably isn't going to stop them but the whole point behind this thread is to say enough is enough. To quote one of the most influential artists of all time "Get up, stand up. Stand up for your rights"-Bob Marley

You're welcome for getting that song stuck in your head!

So you dont believe they should have the right to not allow things they deem inappropriate on their property? Using the same logic, I should be able to smoke in my car in the parking lot of my childrens school, or vape while sitting in the principals office talking to him. The logic there is flawed...The policy may not be about the "harmful effects" of the products, but the image of professionalism that State Farm wants to represent.

If it bothers you, dont work for them. Im sure in this economy, they can find 100,000 other people who would be happy to start taking positions even with that policy.

State Farm is a nobody. Changing their mind will in effect, do nothing...just change their mind... If you want the big fish/little fish scenario, go for governement changes...Erasing state farm company policies will in no way, change or make laws.

While I agree with Bob Marley and your reference of him, your example using State Farm is pointless and misdirected.

Probably too late for you, but here, give it a read anyway..
First they came... - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia...

Did you really just link wikipedia in a discussion expecting someone to open it in the first place? Secondly, to take anything in it as fact? Sorry, but I dont open Wiki for any information. Use Real resources please. All we need are people thinking they can show up to a State Farm fight quoting wikipedia articles.

 

[Zofryer]

I dropped em for esurance a while ago. Saved me a couple hundred a year.