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Don’t know if it’s true but I heard one of the cases in which someone got sick was from a “legal dispensary”.
I haven't read that, and I've been following these stories very closely. Someone (Izan) posted an article here of someone who works for a dispensary that claims his unit has used vitamin E acetate for months who was voluntarily pulling his products from shelves after this crisis. It's possible.
 
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One worry is whether there is enough actual "expertise" in the current ECF membership regarding this topic to truly support a cannabis subforum (support in terms of knowledge and safety) ... or will it start out more as a little 'wild west' subforum until enough people with a good knowledge base of the various ways in which Cannibis/THC/cbd etc can be safely used with various types of devices show up (hopefully before anyone gets harmed from poor advice or recipes that no one recognizes as poor advice).
 

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I am trying to learn the safe form of CBD for vaping, it looks like only CBD isolate is safe because all waxes, oils, etc have been removed. The problem I am seeing is most places offer CBD oil to vape not isolate in PG/VG. VaporDNA does offer isolate in PG/VG that can also be used orally. This looks like a safe route. Pink Koi CBD | CBD Vape Juice – VaporDNA
 

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I haven't read that, and I've been following these stories very closely. Someone (Izan) posted an article here of someone who works for a dispensary that claims his unit has used vitamin E acetate for months who was voluntarily pulling his products from shelves after this crisis. It's possible.
Yes a man in Oregon got his from a legal dispensary. They really need to find out if it was oil.
 

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View attachment 837635 I am trying to learn the safe form of CBD for vaping, it looks like only CBD isolate is safe because all waxes, oils, etc have been removed. The problem I am seeing is most places offer CBD oil to vape not isolate in PG/VG. VaporDNA does offer isolate in PG/VG that can also be used orally. This looks like a safe route. Pink Koi CBD | CBD Vape Juice – VaporDNA
The only reason I know about isolate is because of a topical CBD salve I use on my back, it is made from isolate CBD and not the oil. It is great for pain relief.
 

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One worry is whether there is enough actual "expertise" in the current ECF membership regarding this topic to truly support a Cannabis subforum (support in terms of knowledge and safety) ... or will it start out more as a little 'wild west' subforum until enough people with a good knowledge base of the various ways in which Cannibis/THC/CBD etc can be safely used with various types of devices show up (hopefully before anyone gets harmed from poor advice or recipes that no one recognizes as poor advice).
Very good point. It wasn't all that long ago that only a few members knew enough about vape batteries to give good advice on which to use. That number has tripled thanks to Mooch. i think any advice given concerning vaping cannibus should be very conservatve until more information is more widely available.

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I've been on ECF for 5 years and it has changed a lot in that time. Five years before I joined it was different again. I used to read through the old threads quite often, it was fascinating to see the old timers working their way through stuff that was all figured out by the time I got here. If the hammer falls on vaping next year ECF that will bring on another huge change.

This one was kind of forced on us. People are nervous about ECF turning into a chat room for pot heads but there's a lot of momentum here and some experienced people to manage it. Resisting change is a bit like trying to stop the tide coming in.

I have seen those Changes you mentioned. And I have seen all that Stuff that was Figured Out by the Old Timers also.

But One Thing Remained Constant. It was Always about e-Cigarettes. Just e-Cigarettes. And that is what Made the ECF so Successful.

So I Hope this Change to the ECF will be a good one.
 

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I think as long as it stays here (too many would object in the main forums and it would be a disaster) and is directed at safety it's a good thing. I am a Libertarian at heart (not a member of any political party) so to me what someone puts in their own body is up to them as long as no one else is harmed. However I will be the first to point out some potential long term consequences to others if asked.

In the 70's I became a member of NORMAL. I was a stoner till 93. Probably still would be if I hadn't got the paranoia. For those that don't know the paranoia isn't being afraid of getting caught, it's bad (as in violent) anxiety attacks with no idea what you are paranoid about. Had to stop cold turkey and tried it again a year later with the same results. Abstinence since then.

I had an eidetic memory which faded and losses in short term during that time period. Nothing directly links this to my choices but I'm not the only one to report these experiences, so who knows for sure.

Anyway, just my :2c:
 

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I see this as a new challenge for vaping and ECF. I've been an active member and a leader/educator here since 2012. I remember when rebuilding your own coils was new ground and subohm vaping was considered to be dangerous. Many of us helped each other out and we got through it safely. Vaping with cannabis is new ground again. No one needs to participate if they are not interested. It seems quite obvious by the size of this thread that many vapers here are very interestd in this subject so we shouldn't be too quick to judge something new in vaping. THC and CBD usage no longer has the stigma of marijuana.
 
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Us early subohmers (we were pushing the limits at 0.7 to 0.9) were frowned upon and there was talk among the elders of banishing us.
I may have been one of those elders. I was just a step or two behind you. I now vape in the extremely low 0.5 ohm range. You CAN teach an old dog new tricks. ;)
 
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Us early subohmers (we were pushing the limits at 0.7 to 0.9) were frowned upon and there was talk among the elders of banishing us.
I remember, I thought you all were going to blow yourselves up! LOL Now sub ohm is the norm
 

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I think as long as it stays here (too many would object in the main forums and it would be a disaster) and is directed at safety it's a good thing. I am a Libertarian at heart (not a member of any political party) so to me what someone puts in their own body is up to them as long as no one else is harmed. However I will be the first to point out some potential long term consequences to others if asked.

In the 70's I became a member of NORMAL. I was a stoner till 93. Probably still would be if I hadn't got the paranoia. For those that don't know the paranoia isn't being afraid of getting caught, it's bad (as in violent) anxiety attacks with no idea what you are paranoid about. Had to stop cold turkey and tried it again a year later with the same results. Abstinence since then.

I had an eidetic memory which faded and losses in short term during that time period. Nothing directly links this to my choices but I'm not the only one to report these experiences, so who knows for sure.

Anyway, just my :2c:
I had experienced a few highs in the 70's myself, had one bad experience and never smoked it again.
 

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Doing more searching and vape CBD oil is everywhere. Even VaporDNA has oil in single use pens to vape. Geez this is crazy. I checked Halo ecigs, their CBD vape juice also has oil in it, yikes! Things need to change, anything with oil needs labeled not for vaping, oral use only.
 

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Yeah if ECF turns into anything close I'm out..

I don't want to sit around talking about drug use.. at all. I liked ECF because it was a nice clean forum..

I guess those days are gone.. :(

But nicotine is a drug... It's also illegal here in Australia outside tobacco does that mean i can't talk about it?
 

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Have you found non oil CBD? I think Halo and VaporDNA are selling CBD in pg/VG. I just don't trust vaping it. I sublingual 100mg CBD for pain.

99% of CBD VAPE 'OIL' is CBD ISOLATE. Unfortunately it was named CBD vape oil and that's what the general population know it as. My friends have imported it into Australia where it is now legal and vaped it with no issues. They have also imported full spectrum CBD 'OIL' which cannot be vaped and is used under the tongue etc.
 
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