Not age, just fair politics. It is statistically proven that during a revote candidates lose votes either from people who did not know about the change or are just to lazy to cast their vote again.
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Not age, just fair politics. It is statistically proven that during a revote candidates lose votes either from people who did not know about the change or are just to lazy to cast their vote again.
Then we make sure people know about the change! We have a week!
If they're too lazy to click a couple buttons and type in an email address, how informed a voter do you think they are?
and just what part of CASAA says inaction...
and is smokyjoe going to put a dismiss notice like when the board was changing up?
and is smokyjoe going to put a dismiss notice like when the board was changing up?
yvilla I think that is a good idea. Especially once the announcement if made on login, those who haven't followed along will find it easier to digest all the info. Any word of closing campaigning, or no?
And Mooby I don't think my vote will change, so doubt if anything will be any different in the outcome. I really think the re-start is understandable, registration required will diminish outside participation or at least show solidarity.
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I was also wondering that, Mo!
It won't be lost if they vote again.
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I agree 100%
If they change their vote, they obviously feel the other candidate is more qualified. If they are too lazy, then I don't want their vote anyhow.
That may be, but who's votes weren't heard? We have no idea, because there was never anything attached to the votes received but an IP address. By requiring registration and email verification, everyone who wishes to vote will have a fair and equal opportunity.
Webby, is there any way that you can send an automatic receipt of vote at the end of the election so that we can see if the candidates we voted for actually won?
Good idea - I'll try to have those up in the next day or so. For now, each nominee links back to their ECF page, which links to their post history, threads started...
To recap current conventional wisdom:
1) We emply "The Fix®" banh banh bahhhh...
2) RIMP and Seminolewind are in.
3) SJ will hopefully post a Dismiss Notice (thanks boxhead, couldn't remember what they were called) so anyone who was part of "Webby's False Start" gets word that there is a do-over.
3) Voting results will NOT be visible (you'll just have to sweat
)4) We never discussed this, so they only way I see to fairly handle the supplier issue is to say "If more than three suppliers are elected, the three with the top number of votes are chosen" The fourth or fifth gets a lifetime supply of Turtle Wax and Rice-a-Roni (the San Franscisco Treat)
Now - I will be the first to point out that since I AM a supplier (a hush falls over the crowd...) I have no problem with making any or ALL nominees privvy to the voting count at all times. OR they could choose a group of delegates from within their own midst. I will leave that up to them/us by private vote and will conduct this offlist. After all, they are the ones with the most to gain/lose.
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Here's a quick way to make a voters guide and simultaneously give everyone an opportunity to campaign as well: If possible, make a subforum here at ECF and allow each candidate to begin one thread. In this way, we can show our support for other candidates as well as ourselves.
When the election is closed, the winners threads get stickied as an open door to feedback from the constituency.
Do you one better -
Since we will effectively be creating the member database for CASAA, the IP addresses, email and votes will be recorded in a SQL database. At the end of the process, an email can be generated thanking everyone for their participation as well as announcing the voting results.
Any discrepancies (multiple bounced headers or more than a handful of votes from a single IP address) will be flagged for voter fraud.
How's that?
Folks, this whole deal was not well thought out nor well implemented. Resetting of elections is just so Afghanistan. I am not certain there is any central driving force behind CASAA.
You cannot have an advocacy organization run helter-skelter by anyone who so chooses to make a comment about what should and should not be done or how the founding documents should read. This is way too unorganized for me. Count me out of the election to the board. I appreciate the support I received from anonymous ECF members, but I cannot, with a clear mind, support a disorganized group. I can be an advocate for vaping in my everyday life, as we all should be.
You cannot have an advocacy organization run helter-skelter by anyone who so chooses to make a comment about what should and should not be done or how the founding documents should read. This is way too unorganized for me. Count me out of the election to the board. I appreciate the support I received from anonymous ECF members, but I cannot, with a clear mind, support a disorganized group. I can be an advocate for vaping in my everyday life, as we all should be.
Quoted from Webby's post:
"Now - I will be the first to point out that since I AM a supplier (a hush falls over the crowd...) I have no problem with making any or ALL nominees privvy to the voting count at all times. OR they could choose a group of delegates from within their own midst. I will leave that up to them/us by private vote and will conduct this offlist. After all, they are the ones with the most to gain/lose. "
I think that the nominees should be privvy to the vote at all times. However, members should refrain from posting ANY reference to the vote , and if they do, to be tossed out.
"Now - I will be the first to point out that since I AM a supplier (a hush falls over the crowd...) I have no problem with making any or ALL nominees privvy to the voting count at all times. OR they could choose a group of delegates from within their own midst. I will leave that up to them/us by private vote and will conduct this offlist. After all, they are the ones with the most to gain/lose. "
I think that the nominees should be privvy to the vote at all times. However, members should refrain from posting ANY reference to the vote , and if they do, to be tossed out.
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I retract my acceptance speech.
I also have no problem re-voting as by reading through the recent posts it will make my decision easier.
Rather than voting semi blind, I can now give my "new" votes to those who showed, IMO, proper ethics and agreed the process should start over.
I also have no problem re-voting as by reading through the recent posts it will make my decision easier.
Rather than voting semi blind, I can now give my "new" votes to those who showed, IMO, proper ethics and agreed the process should start over.
Don't leave just yet. You may get that chance to contribute by organizing this organization better. I would think one that keeps things organized in this group would be valuable.
Guess that means I am out since I was upset votes were going to be thrown away. lol.
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