yes, but that's not critical. I just found it easier to double it, and use the loop with a twist as an anchor for a pos. connection on the AGA nuts. I think it helps, too, in keeping tension and lengths equal.
- Status
yes, but that's not critical. I just found it easier to double it, and use the loop with a twist as an anchor for a pos. connection on the AGA nuts. I think it helps, too, in keeping tension and lengths equal.
I also tried the parallel coil on a single wick with my tiamat, the hyper has been retired so to speak.
pdib, I wanted to thank you for inspiring me to re-attempt the parallel wire set up, I successfully EHW'd a dual coil on my ceramic wick, bloody brilliant right off the bat, bounty O' vapor and excellent flavor. Cheers mate.
Hey! Thanks, man! you ehw'd AND dual coil? Very cool. What wire gauge? Gotta post us some pix, and sling some pix over to the ceramics classes too! ("FC-2000" and "the next big thing") They will certainly get a kick out of that.
Well my 30 g Kanthal showed up today, which is a good thing, after 1 day of use, the char build up on the dual coil set up was insane, started getting the burnt taste again. I hot wrapped a brand new fishwick (I broke the one I was using, good thing they are easy to make) hooked it up to the tiamat, filled her up and BAM! instant flavor and billowing clouds of vapor! Absolutly no break in period! vapdivrr was right, 30 g is the way to go! Now if I don't get wicked build up after a day, brilliant.
in your dual coil set-up, was the wraps very close to each other? i just used some ribbon on a 1/8 wick and had to wrap each coil very close together, what i found is a coil that gets gunked up very quickly. i think the closer the wraps the quicker it gunks. now i also have another wick set-up with the wraps much farther apart, this coil hardly never gets gunked.
OK, I spaced my coils apart, I turned up the wattage to 11, (found a thread that theorized under heating the coil caused the dark juice) hot wrapped the coils, still get back bleed. you can see the difference in color in the picture. you can also see gunk starting to build on the top coil where it transitions into the bridge to the positive post. I grow weary of this, is it a wick too loose in the hole?
Well, i added stainless washers to eliminate the bridge (source of over heating) and got a tighter wick, so far no black juice.
Bloody Hell! All this gained me was an extra day of clear juice, I don't understand why my coils char up so bleadin fast, I've spaced them apart, eliminated the hot bridge, wrapped with 30g as tight as it gets, is it possible it's my juice that gunks up so fast?!?!?!?!
Did you ever say what kind of juice you're using? I've got some that would blacken anything, no matter what.
I use some pretty sweet juices, most are 100 percent vg. with my ceramic wicks I get very little juice darkening. now my 1/8 inch wicks get a little gunky and have to wet burn every other day, but its weird that the set-up I have with a 3/32 wick stays clean , never seems to gunk up and it has the same juice. so the same juice but different diameter wicks, the larger wick gunks up and the small one doesn't and the smaller one probably stays slightly clearer, both set up do stay relatively clear but the one that gunks up might get slightly darker. besides this I always felt that coils that were spread out slightly farther away from each other kind of clean themselves in a way for it seems like when I do a close wrap they gunk up more. there are so many slight variables to these things its so hard to figure them out. but this latest find that tells me that my 1/8 wicks gunk and my 3/32 wicks do not is something I haven't figured out yet, maybe it is a heat sink thing where the more heat sink the more it gunks. now I have in the past had some juices that had sweetners in them, I would think if a juice has to much of this it is going to gunk no matter what you do.
That is interesting, Vap. Wonder what that's all about? One of my juices is a tobacco extract, with particulate tobacco residues in it. That type of thing would leave little room for mystery.
yes, I was thinking that because of the heat sink in ceramic that it takes a bit more time for it to get to temp, as this wick is like warming up it is just wet with juice until the temp starts to vaporize it, so it is just more sloppy, where as a smaller wick heats up much quicker and vaporization happens much more quickly, so there is not any juice sitting on the wick for extended periods of time, its just wet for a second and then its gone, but the thicker wicks cannot vaporize the juice fast enough maybe, so it gets gunkier. I don't know, this all can be all bs, its just a theory, but maybe a ceramic wick with less heat sink is less gunky ? maybe the tightness of the coil has something to do with how gunky it can get?
Thanks for the replies lads, I've theorized everything from wick size, coil spacing, temp setting, to juice ingredients. Here is what I have, does any of it correlates to what you have found:
1/8" fishwick
30g Kanthal A1 about 4 turns = 1.5 ohms
running 3.3v (8.1W)
The juice is 33%VG, 12mg
It is a darker juice, contains: Maxx-Blend, Bavarian Cream, and Vanilla Bourbon
I did find that when I spaced the coil wraps farther apart, lowered the resistance and the voltage that my coil would last 2 days as opposed to 1.
This makes sense to me, my theory after reading this is it's not like a glass wick with a coil around it which could almost instantly flash off the juice into vapor and then cool rapidly after power is removed, my 1/8" ceramic takes a second to heat up and keeps on producing vapor well after power is removed, during that time of warm up and cool down who knows what is happening to the juice, maybe cooking it into a golden brown?
I really appreciate you fellas trying to help me out on this, I'm tired of having to drain my juice because the flavor changed every other day, I think I will incorporate a torching into my regular routine to try and combat the waste of juice.
Cheers!
1/8" fishwick
30g Kanthal A1 about 4 turns = 1.5 ohms
running 3.3v (8.1W)
The juice is 33%VG, 12mg
It is a darker juice, contains: Maxx-Blend, Bavarian Cream, and Vanilla Bourbon
I did find that when I spaced the coil wraps farther apart, lowered the resistance and the voltage that my coil would last 2 days as opposed to 1.
This makes sense to me, my theory after reading this is it's not like a glass wick with a coil around it which could almost instantly flash off the juice into vapor and then cool rapidly after power is removed, my 1/8" ceramic takes a second to heat up and keeps on producing vapor well after power is removed, during that time of warm up and cool down who knows what is happening to the juice, maybe cooking it into a golden brown?
I really appreciate you fellas trying to help me out on this, I'm tired of having to drain my juice because the flavor changed every other day, I think I will incorporate a torching into my regular routine to try and combat the waste of juice.
Cheers!
Yeah, too bad. I think Vap's onto the right idea there; I would just add that I do find that some of my juices are for some of my atties only. I killed an HH357 with one, but it lives happily in my Phoenix now. Even on the AGA, I use the juices that work well in it mostly. If I want that other flavor, there's always another device.
I hope it's not an incompatibility issue, this is my only set up, and the only juice I use, hopefully a torching every other day will take care of the black leach back.
- Status
Similar threads
