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Bolivia doesn't even rate on that map...
Not quite. Modern flashlights are equipped with circuitry as well. Buck boost drivers, and all of that jazz...
That might indeed be the case, if one hasn't learned to manage one's money.
If I didn't have a watch, I wouldn't know what time it is. An honest, unpretentious man buys a Timex or Citizen (or similar), and if he wants a "mech", he buys a Seiko 5. Any of them keep time just fine. Some of those watches might even be styled a whole lot like a Rolex or other expensive watch. And that's OK. But what's totally uncool is buying a fake expensive watch, i.e a watch that looks just like a Rolex and actually claims to be a Rolex. Now that person is pretending to be something they're not -- a person who has enough money management skills to be able to afford a Rolex.
(And no, I don't own a Rolex -- I'm using it as an example)
Sorry, but nobody needs a counterfeit (or even clone) product to quit smoking. There are plenty of inexpensive, honest products out there that vape just fine.
I can afford literally vape gear I'd care to have. Guess what I'm vaping right now? A $20 Igo-L on an MVP. Chinese? Yup. Works pretty too, and without pretending to be something it's not.
That's because lithium isn't a rare earth!
True enough,
should I ever happpen across an ego twist made in Bolivia, I'll give it a try...
Of the 7 or 8 e cig's I've had, not a single one was made in the US. China got me to quit smoking so I hope they make millions off of us fat Americans and I can't wait for more Chinese e cigs for my collection. The only thing I don't want from China is juice.
I vape a pair of REO Grands 90% of the time. Those ARE US made. I have a pair of RM2s on top which I believe are chinese made but reworked by the maker of the REO Grand (not sure but I THINK that is the origin). They were purchased with my REOs. No guilt at all for the attys.
For Driving I use Genuine Joyetech EGO or EGO twist batterys with Kanger toppers. Again Chinese but decent quality.
Once in a blue moon I break out my ancient vamo. I actually don't use it much at all. Regulated devices are not my thing. I see no point in buying a Provari until the vamo dies since I so rarely use it.
As things are now I do not regret the Vamo purchase. It served me well until I discovered that my happy vaping place really is with REOs.
I try to buy American or at least buy original foreign goods. Not always 100% possible but I do try.
For Driving I use Genuine Joyetech EGO or EGO twist batterys with Kanger toppers. Again Chinese but decent quality.
Once in a blue moon I break out my ancient vamo. I actually don't use it much at all. Regulated devices are not my thing. I see no point in buying a Provari until the vamo dies since I so rarely use it.
As things are now I do not regret the Vamo purchase. It served me well until I discovered that my happy vaping place really is with REOs.
I try to buy American or at least buy original foreign goods. Not always 100% possible but I do try.
I've got a 1987 Honda Ns400R motorcycle, same age as me, still got all the horses it came with and rides better than anything I've ridden before (Including a HD sportster 883) Poor maintenance is the root of all cars blowing up. My
I will buy chinese vaping goods if they are sold as a knock off, I just get annoyed when it's sold as a genuine product. Other than that I like that things are affordable for me, economic crisis and all
European and American mod manufacturers are greedy and taking advantage of the situation. $200 for what is basically a metal battery tube? They are not even made of high dollar metals or are intricate and clever devices. Plus ALWAYS out of stock. Purposely I'll bet.
They make their bed let 'em sleep in it. Nemesis and kayfun clones inbound to me.
They make their bed let 'em sleep in it. Nemesis and kayfun clones inbound to me.
So, buying a reliable $100 quartz Rolex or Breitling watches (IE: fake Rolex, Breitlings) in your opinion is cool and dandy?
(I have no problems with fakes, unless of course people try passing fakes as the real deal..) But if your budget does not allow, why not pickup a nice Seiko, Citizen, Bulova instead?
There are many legit "knockoffs" in the $50 range for mech mods. But people of course rather wants the fake badged and 100% replicated product of an original at a severely discounted price instead for the gratification..
They are always purposefully out of stock, yet make money selling them... Something isn't quite right with that scenario.
I'm not sure if you know this but products are never priced on market value of raw materials, but through conceptual value of the finished product.
Is Apple products overprice? Hell no.. Want proof? Just look at their sales statistics..
You would have to be dumb to sell products based off raw materials.. Unless your trying to build a company that loses money.. You have to remember that price dictates the demographic you are trying to appeal towards as well.
They are always purposefully out of stock, yet make money selling them... Something isn't quite right with that scenario.
Bought by the same people that would purchase a genuine Rolex. A Timex will tell time just as accurately.
Reviews I have seen show the Nemesis clone to work just as well as a genuine article. Same with the Kayfun.
I'm not looking to own a show piece vape tool with a show piece price. I actually use my stuff, and pretty hard too.
Actually the accuracy of high end watches such as Omega, Breitling, Tag, etc can reach an unparalleled plane in comparison too cheap watches.. Of course not many will care about this except watch enthusiasts/collectors. Not to mention the craftsmanship involved in higher end watches..
Even though Rolex has been deemed as a social status brand, it is still an amazing watch that many watch collectors/enthusiasts would thoroughly enjoy.
There are many great cheaper watches that you could buy instead of a fake Rolex, as there are many great cheaper mech mods to buy, instead of buying a fake Nemesis. Why do people buy the fake nemesis though? Same reason people buy fake Rolex. I've seen many well done faked Rolex.
American consumers are partially to blame for the rise in Chinese products that flood the American market. Our quest for the cheapest product to get the job done leads to Chinese produced goods. They buy the machinery and raw materials from us and produce products cheaper than we can. Then turn around and sell those products to us. It's a necessary give and take that sustains both our economies. Cloning or replicating products from China has been going on for a long time in all products manufactured. It's always going to happen as long as there is a market to sell those products.
A friend of mine has loads of cheap Chinese clones. They are all of various quality. He complains endlessly about them, about the brass decks, screws that are not made of SS and that rust, pressure driven atomisers that are not airtight, poor machining and finish, fill valves that fail etc etc. However, he has some that are fantastic, that cost barely anything, are finished really well with really very good threads, and are pretty flawless. It is a lottery out there, and the lack of QC is what you pay for. Sometimes it pays off though, his Ithaka clone is extremely good.
The only problem is that the Kayfun clones come in a box identical to an authentic SM ome, with SM logos on the packaging, SM logos on the atomiser base. That's wrong. WRONG. It's not that I hate clones, I don't - hell I even own a Kebo/UDC Russian 3.1 style atty myself, but at least they had the guts to make it look different. I prefer the Russian over the KFL these days, the airflow in that Russian is perfect, and aesthetically, it's amazing. As soon as I saw it I wanted one.
But here's where the clone market may become useful. What happens if your authentic SM Kayfun 3.1's fill port valve fails. Can you get a replacement for it? SvoeMesto have discontinued that atomiser and only have a few remaining spare bases. You can buy a 1:1 clone for peanuts and replace the entire deck. Thanks China and here's to the Horse
The only problem is that the Kayfun clones come in a box identical to an authentic SM ome, with SM logos on the packaging, SM logos on the atomiser base. That's wrong. WRONG. It's not that I hate clones, I don't - hell I even own a Kebo/UDC Russian 3.1 style atty myself, but at least they had the guts to make it look different. I prefer the Russian over the KFL these days, the airflow in that Russian is perfect, and aesthetically, it's amazing. As soon as I saw it I wanted one.
But here's where the clone market may become useful. What happens if your authentic SM Kayfun 3.1's fill port valve fails. Can you get a replacement for it? SvoeMesto have discontinued that atomiser and only have a few remaining spare bases. You can buy a 1:1 clone for peanuts and replace the entire deck. Thanks China and here's to the Horse
Looks like the main beef with clones is the blatant copy of laser etchings. Names and numbers and graphics, etc. Here's the deal; after I get my Nemesis clone from Fastech I will sand or buff those etchings off. Same with the Kayfun. Because I really don't care about that sort of thing. No one's gonna see them because I only vape at home. Now I'm a good guy.
Here's another deal; next time one of you authentic buyers purchase a piece from Mr. Svoemesto or the Nemesis guy give them some advise. Tell them to make a reasonably priced product, have it in stock and they will get scylla's money. If not, the Chinese get scylla's money.
Buyers market.
Here's another deal; next time one of you authentic buyers purchase a piece from Mr. Svoemesto or the Nemesis guy give them some advise. Tell them to make a reasonably priced product, have it in stock and they will get scylla's money. If not, the Chinese get scylla's money.
Buyers market.
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The reason they take time is because they don't have 1000's of people working for 1p her day in bad conditions hence stock issues if you want something bad enough you'll wait or buy an alternative and i'm confused by all this turning into an American thing since the best mods are made in Philippines anyway!
I wear a timex on my wrist.
What I wanted in my mechanical mod;
18650 size, no telescoping.
Able to install readily available magnetic upgrade to spring in switch
Air flow control to flush mount topper of my choice without sacrificing performance
22 mm to match diameter of my favorite toppers
You show me any mechanical -but- a clone/knockoff that hits -all- of these features without pretending to be something it isn't, and costs $50 or less, and I'll buy it.
Fwiw I sanded the logos off my clone. I don't like them, didn't want them, and think it looks better just smooth and polished.
So is our disdain for Chinese products to be limited to just clones, just vaping gear, everything Chinese made... i get confused on these threads sometimes. Is it OK if I buy something made in India, or Korea, as long as it's not China? And when we talk about "the government," are we talking about the current President, Congress, or the government for the last 50 years or so? America no longer has a manufacturing economy, and has moved to service based. You can try closing the barn door, but the cow is long gone. Wait, this was about clones...right?
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