Chit Chat in VOLTVILLE Thread #2 :)

[SandySu]

No snow so far today, Awsum. Yes, it's in the 40s instead of the 60s like it was yesterday, but that's not really too cold for this time of year. We have hardly seen any frost on the grass yet this year. I think one or 2 mornings I saw some frost in shady spots when I first got up.

What worries me is that we have a visit to the zoo planned for next Sunday, and I think there's supposed to be snow then. Just flurries, or a full snowstorm? I can't tell from this far in advance.

 

[Uncle]

Just An FYI:

The door was painted with some kind of what looks like plastic. It looks like someone kicked it. Burgler or domestic violence, IDK. Anyway, since the paint has been gouged and peeling off I can't repaint it. I doubt it will all just peel off. This stuff is thick and flexible, not like paint. I don't know what it is and don't know how to remove it so I can paint. I was hoping that maybe one of you might know what this crap is and how to remove it without having to sand the whole door.

This is going to be a tough one given that - that door looks as though it is one of the standard "Aluminum" doors that are attached to prefabricated/mobile homes . . . Just know that a majority of these doors are usually just aluminum frames filled with some form of installation and then encased with a sheet of aluminum on both sides . . . Also - Ya' should know that they are usually just a grandiose storm door made to look as if it is a regular wood style exterior door . . . Given this "You" have to first make the decision of whether or not it is really worth the time and effort to repair or replace that door . . .

Anyway, since it seems there is only that one spot where the door has been dented and the paint is pealing, let's go with repair/fix/paint . . . AND - There are possibly 5 different ways to do that from the most complex to the easiest . . .

The one "You" do not want to do . . .

1) Strip door of all paint (using wire brush/sander - chemicals will not do a proper job), try pulling out dent and make any other repairs, lightly sand down door, power wash, wipe down with mineral spirits, prime door, then repaint door . . .

Then there is simply fixing/priming the area before painting the whole door:
(Given in detail since I think "You" probably are going to do this one . . . )

2) Remove as much paint from specific areas as "You" can: "peel" away lose sheets of paint and if NEED be use a wire brush to remove any excess paint you can (If Ya' do go the way of using a "Heat Gun" - be very very careful, the aluminum will heat up and can become very very HOT . . . So - Most of the paint should peal/come off and "You" will be back at the first suggestion . . . Also, DO NOT use while the door is still up or in the house); if there are any "holes"/"Cuts' in aluminum they need to be filled using an epoxy calk for aluminum or metal; lightly sand areas (gently blending the edges); wash the door well with a degreaser dish detergent (Dawn comes to mind); let totally dry; wipe down whole door with mineral spirits (Again let dry); paint door with primer, and then 2 coast of exterior paint or an all in one primer/paint product in the color of "Your" choice of maybe a dark flat color to hide any imperfections (gloss paint will only highlight the imperfections) . . . Sherwin Williams & BEHR are 2 of the best all in one out there . . . DONE - EASY PEASY . . .

The next way . . .

3) Don't worry about doing anything major . . . "Peel" what paint "You" can away from door; Clean very well with detergent and wipe down with mineral spirits to make sure the surface is free and clear of any dirt . . . Use All in One Exterior Primer & Paint as I mentioned "in a dark flat color to hide any imperfections (gloss paint will only highlight the imperfections)" or get crafty and "Sponge Paint" / "Leatherize" Door . . . "You" might also be able to use the New All-In-One Spray Paints that can be used on anything . . . VERY EASY PEASY . . .


Another way . . .

4) Prepare the door - "Peel" Paint & "Clean" Door - then get some "Adhesive backed" product and wrap the door as "You" might one of "Your" mods . . .
(BTW: Ask "Rave" how to do this - remember she did her refrigerator and made it look as though it had "Marble Doors" . . . Just Sayin' . . . )

Last and the easiest of all . . .

5) Wait until the spring and then when "BF" comes back have him do it - Or even better go buy a Used Exterior Door from somewhere like "Habitat for Humanity" (BTW: It is where I got an aluminum exterior screen door for "My" apartment for only $10.00) . . .



Well - I hope this information helps . . .

 

[SandySu]

If it was me, and I could buy a new door for $10, I'd go for the new door. The other options sound like a lot of work. But if it was me, and the door worked fine as is, that would go on the back burner. More important would be fixing dripping faucets, getting the fireplace flue working effectively, etc. Meanwhile, I'd be shopping for a new door, waiting for one to just fall into my path.

 

[awsum140]

Terry, if you do strip the paint off the door you'll need to figure out if it's aluminum or steel. A magnet will do that very easily. If it's aluminum you need to wash it with detergent immediately prior to painting, and make sure it's dry (heat gun), and use a primer made for aluminum to get good adhesion. If it's steel, galvanized in particular, you need to clean it with a solvent like lacquer thinner then paint it with an etching primer to get good adhesion. Even Wally World sells etching primers in spry cans.

When I say adhesion I mean getting the primer coat to actually bond with the metal of the door and provide a good bond for the finish coats. It is a bit of trouble but worth the effort in terms of durability. You can probably fix the hole with a Bondo style product if it's a steel door or use a fiberglass patch kit for either aluminum or steel. Again, it will be some work, but it is doable.

 

[JerryRM]

Good morning, Peeps and DIY folks.

 

[Tritium]

Roland if we were there it would be ready in under an hour

Philae has landed on a comet. huge accomplishment.

 

[Renolizzie]

Roland if we were there it would be ready in under an hour

Philae has landed on a comet. huge accomplishment.

We are recording the event so Hubby and I can watch it later.

Well, I decided to move a few more plants while the weather is still pretty nice.

The two climbing roses in front of the house don't have trellises anymore so I decided "Hey, why not move them to the new rail fence I put up." That way they will have a bit of support and be pretty looking out from the house windows and when we are driving in the gate. Also, bonus, the neighbors who drive by will see the pretty flowers, too.

I want to move the tall hedge but don't know where I should move it to.

I trimmed back the junipers that are getting too big at the front of the house, as well.

Now, for a little clean up and a nice lunch!

Terry, I would just watch for a new nicer door at a great price and buy a replacement

 

[cindycated]

Terry, if I were you, I would just leave the door until the weather's nicer. Paint likes a certain temperature to cure nicely, and if there's any wind at all with that open field, you'd just get dirt blown onto the door while it's wet. Ick, we're not talking about a cool sandblasted finish either.

If it bothers you, just peel off what you can and touch it up with some $3 sample paint to match. That should hold until it's time to do the whole door.

 

[awsum140]

Duck tape! Duck tape an fix anything!

 

[Qew]

You can always make some nifty design with duct tape until Spring. You can fix ANYTHING with duct tape!

 

[Qew]

Duck tape! Duck tape an fix anything!

Great minds......

 

[Tritium]

 

[tmcase]

Just An FYI:



This is going to be a tough one given that - that door looks as though it is one of the standard "Aluminum" doors that are attached to prefabricated/mobile homes . . . Just know that a majority of these doors are usually just aluminum frames filled with some form of installation and then encased with a sheet of aluminum on both sides . . . Also - Ya' should know that they are usually just a grandiose storm door made to look as if it is a regular wood style exterior door . . . Given this "You" have to first make the decision of whether or not it is really worth the time and effort to repair or replace that door . . .

Anyway, since it seems there is only that one spot where the door has been dented and the paint is pealing, let's go with repair/fix/paint . . . AND - There are possibly 5 different ways to do that from the most complex to the easiest . . .

The one "You" do not want to do . . .

1) Strip door of all paint (using wire brush/sander - chemicals will not do a proper job), try pulling out dent and make any other repairs, lightly sand down door, power wash, wipe down with mineral spirits, prime door, then repaint door . . .

Then there is simply fixing/priming the area before painting the whole door:
(Given in detail since I think "You" probably are going to do this one . . . )

2) Remove as much paint from specific areas as "You" can: "peel" away lose sheets of paint and if NEED be use a wire brush to remove any excess paint you can (If Ya' do go the way of using a "Heat Gun" - be very very careful, the aluminum will heat up and can become very very HOT . . . So - Most of the paint should peal/come off and "You" will be back at the first suggestion . . . Also, DO NOT use while the door is still up or in the house); if there are any "holes"/"Cuts' in aluminum they need to be filled using an epoxy calk for aluminum or metal; lightly sand areas (gently blending the edges); wash the door well with a degreaser dish detergent (Dawn comes to mind); let totally dry; wipe down whole door with mineral spirits (Again let dry); paint door with primer, and then 2 coast of exterior paint or an all in one primer/paint product in the color of "Your" choice of maybe a dark flat color to hide any imperfections (gloss paint will only highlight the imperfections) . . . Sherwin Williams & BEHR are 2 of the best all in one out there . . . DONE - EASY PEASY . . .

The next way . . .

3) Don't worry about doing anything major . . . "Peel" what paint "You" can away from door; Clean very well with detergent and wipe down with mineral spirits to make sure the surface is free and clear of any dirt . . . Use All in One Exterior Primer & Paint as I mentioned "in a dark flat color to hide any imperfections (gloss paint will only highlight the imperfections)" or get crafty and "Sponge Paint" / "Leatherize" Door . . . "You" might also be able to use the New All-In-One Spray Paints that can be used on anything . . . VERY EASY PEASY . . .


Another way . . .

4) Prepare the door - "Peel" Paint & "Clean" Door - then get some "Adhesive backed" product and wrap the door as "You" might one of "Your" MODS . . .
(BTW: Ask "Rave" how to do this - remember she did her refrigerator and made it look as though it had "Marble Doors" . . . Just Sayin' . . . )

Last and the easiest of all . . .

5) Wait until the spring and then when "BF" comes back have him do it - Or even better go buy a Used Exterior Door from somewhere like "Habitat for Humanity" (BTW: It is where I got an aluminum exterior screen door for "My" apartment for only $10.00) . . .



Well - I hope this information helps . . .

Wow! Thank you for taking the time to make these suggestions. Since I have so much work to do already I'll opt for #5.

 

[tmcase]

If it was me, and I could buy a new door for $10, I'd go for the new door. The other options sound like a lot of work. But if it was me, and the door worked fine as is, that would go on the back burner. More important would be fixing dripping faucets, getting the fireplace flue working effectively, etc. Meanwhile, I'd be shopping for a new door, waiting for one to just fall into my path.

I'm with you on this one then BF can put the new door on. He's good at that.

 

[tmcase]

Terry, if you do strip the paint off the door you'll need to figure out if it's aluminum or steel. A magnet will do that very easily. If it's aluminum you need to wash it with detergent immediately prior to painting, and make sure it's dry (heat gun), and use a primer made for aluminum to get good adhesion. If it's steel, galvanized in particular, you need to clean it with a solvent like lacquer thinner then paint it with an etching primer to get good adhesion. Even Wally World sells etching primers in spry cans.

When I say adhesion I mean getting the primer coat to actually bond with the metal of the door and provide a good bond for the finish coats. It is a bit of trouble but worth the effort in terms of durability. You can probably fix the hole with a Bondo style product if it's a steel door or use a fiberglass patch kit for either aluminum or steel. Again, it will be some work, but it is doable.

It's aluminum and has lots of gouges and holes in it. I really don't want to mess with trying to fix it. With it as cold as it is here now the piece that was pulled away broke off when I peeled it back to test it with a magnet. It's not high on my priority list so it can wait til BF comes back. Thanks for the info.

 

[tmcase]

Rave came for a visit today. A short visit because she wanted to get back home before dark. Understandable. She helped me prune some lower branches that were blocking my view into the woods. I was getting the larger branches with a chain saw until the battery died. Then we went for a stroll in my woods and help me identify some of them. There were some she couldn't indentify some she made up a name that I can't say here. We gathered up a lot of small dead limbs for kindling and also found that a lot of my poplar trees are dead or dying. We had a great time and I hated to see her leave.

Thanks so much for your help Rave. I'll repay you by helping you with your shed.

 

[Tritium]

Are those white poplars? Their charcoal makes good black powder

 

[tmcase]

Are those white poplars? Their charcoal makes good black powder

No clue and I don't reload anymore so I don't care. You want them? You pay for shipping. LOL!

 

[JerryRM]

It would appear that sweet Raven has a salty vocabulary. Whooda thunk it !!!!!

 

[JerryRM]

You used to reload, too, Terry? Maybe we aren't talking about the same thing, though.