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I have to agree with Lizzie about Liscab, he seemed like such a fun guy. My condolences to his family, and to all that called him friend.
I am having a hard time right now, it's not as devastating as losing a friend, but in a way, it is to me. A new (less than a year) neighbor that moved into a home on a lot that butts up to part of our parcel decided he needed some oak firewood and took it upon himself to butcher an ancient tree that stands on the corner of our property, INSIDE the property line. I cannot reach even half way around the trunk with my arms extended as far as they go. It has to be 250-300 years old, and I doubt it will survive the massacre. Mr Q and I were driving up the road yesterday and saw that a limb that grew over the road was gone, then saw several more cut limbs. Parts of the tree were destined to be dead fall, but it was not threatening the road, it would have fallen on our property. In all, he cut 7 huge limbs off, all the way around the trunk, along with a couple of smaller trees that are now stumps near the oak. If only he had asked us, we would have been happy to show him several trees that need to be cut and cleared out of here, free firewood.
We asked up and down the street, someone saw it being cut. We knocked on his door he was not ashamed to admit he cut it...and he said he did us a favor!! Then he said he only cut dead wood, which was an outright lie, you can smell and see the fresh cut wood. Dead limbs just aren't covered with bright orange and yellow leaves! Plus, he had already chopped, split and stacked quite a bit behind his garage, which we can see from our treeline. We were astounded when he asked, Do you want some of the wood? Mr Q said, This is my wood, I want ALL of it! I have to admit, I lost it on him, I couldn't help myself, I stood in that man's driveway just yelling at him. When he saw how upset we were, he said a dead branch was threatening a pine tree on his property, he had to cut it. Again, I wanted to scream, the pine tree is ours too. Limbs were cut from every side of the tree.
I went to get my camera and called the township (useless) and the state police (pretty much useless as well). An officer came out, took a look, didn't have much to say except he would go talk to him and let me know, in the meantime try to calm down. The officer called to tell me there was no answer when he knocked on the door. He was supposed to go back and try again today, but he didn't update me, so I have no idea. But the bozo did take 3 truckloads of wood down the street and hid it behind another guy's house. I mean, he did it right in front of us! He took his sign off the roadside, firewood for sale, and his wood rack is gone. He is hiding the evidence I suppose, since the police came out, but I took a few more pictures. It's a strong word, but I really hate this guy. Seriously. This was the first conversation I had with the man, and I will never have another. What the hell is wrong with people?
We have a tree service coming tomorrow morning to get an quote on getting the wood away from the edge of the property, he isn't getting another sliver of it if I can help it. We tried to do some clean up, in the rain, but these limbs are like trees in themselves, just massive. We heard him laughing out there, ugh. I would rather let it all rot where we can see it than to leave it there for him to pick at. I don't even care that he trespassed on our property, its just the destruction of this beautiful old oak, it just can't be fixed with, Oh, I'm sorry. *cry*
Thanks for letting me vent, I know it's a rant, I needed to get it out, even if it's all out of order and makes no sense. Mr Q is much more even tempered, he doesn't know what to do with me, and I don't know what to do with myself!
I am having a hard time right now, it's not as devastating as losing a friend, but in a way, it is to me. A new (less than a year) neighbor that moved into a home on a lot that butts up to part of our parcel decided he needed some oak firewood and took it upon himself to butcher an ancient tree that stands on the corner of our property, INSIDE the property line. I cannot reach even half way around the trunk with my arms extended as far as they go. It has to be 250-300 years old, and I doubt it will survive the massacre. Mr Q and I were driving up the road yesterday and saw that a limb that grew over the road was gone, then saw several more cut limbs. Parts of the tree were destined to be dead fall, but it was not threatening the road, it would have fallen on our property. In all, he cut 7 huge limbs off, all the way around the trunk, along with a couple of smaller trees that are now stumps near the oak. If only he had asked us, we would have been happy to show him several trees that need to be cut and cleared out of here, free firewood.
We asked up and down the street, someone saw it being cut. We knocked on his door he was not ashamed to admit he cut it...and he said he did us a favor!! Then he said he only cut dead wood, which was an outright lie, you can smell and see the fresh cut wood. Dead limbs just aren't covered with bright orange and yellow leaves! Plus, he had already chopped, split and stacked quite a bit behind his garage, which we can see from our treeline. We were astounded when he asked, Do you want some of the wood? Mr Q said, This is my wood, I want ALL of it! I have to admit, I lost it on him, I couldn't help myself, I stood in that man's driveway just yelling at him. When he saw how upset we were, he said a dead branch was threatening a pine tree on his property, he had to cut it. Again, I wanted to scream, the pine tree is ours too. Limbs were cut from every side of the tree.
I went to get my camera and called the township (useless) and the state police (pretty much useless as well). An officer came out, took a look, didn't have much to say except he would go talk to him and let me know, in the meantime try to calm down. The officer called to tell me there was no answer when he knocked on the door. He was supposed to go back and try again today, but he didn't update me, so I have no idea. But the bozo did take 3 truckloads of wood down the street and hid it behind another guy's house. I mean, he did it right in front of us! He took his sign off the roadside, firewood for sale, and his wood rack is gone. He is hiding the evidence I suppose, since the police came out, but I took a few more pictures. It's a strong word, but I really hate this guy. Seriously. This was the first conversation I had with the man, and I will never have another. What the hell is wrong with people?
We have a tree service coming tomorrow morning to get an quote on getting the wood away from the edge of the property, he isn't getting another sliver of it if I can help it. We tried to do some clean up, in the rain, but these limbs are like trees in themselves, just massive. We heard him laughing out there, ugh. I would rather let it all rot where we can see it than to leave it there for him to pick at. I don't even care that he trespassed on our property, its just the destruction of this beautiful old oak, it just can't be fixed with, Oh, I'm sorry. *cry*
Thanks for letting me vent, I know it's a rant, I needed to get it out, even if it's all out of order and makes no sense. Mr Q is much more even tempered, he doesn't know what to do with me, and I don't know what to do with myself!
I can understand your frustration. that had to be devastating. Hope the cops get some justice on it. Even if you only get to collect the wood. A survey of the property lines should be in order.
Thanks Zero, I hope so too. We've have had the property lines shot twice since we moved here, they are clearly marked with heavy cyclone fence posts, especially in the corners. In fact, a limb bent a post when it fell, but it's cemented in place and stayed put. He told us he knew the tree wasn't on his property, he didn't even try to make it sound like a mistake. sigh
That is terrible! I got upset reading that.....we have some beautiful oak trees along with many others on our property, and we would snap if someone ever cut them. I am so thankful we have wonderful neighbors, and we do not have anyone living on our property line. That guy is a jerk, and if he was selling it he purposely wanted the oak...... I am sorry that happened to you and your husband.
Wuzz, I am considering just that, but I feel like I have to calm down first before we make any decisions. I think the only way this guy even got into his house was because the former owners had a bitter divorce and the house went to auction on foreclosure.
WV, I'm sorry this upset you, but it's good to know that there are still some people that feel the same way I do. I guess we're just unlucky not to have one nearby.
Thanks guys....
WV, I'm sorry this upset you, but it's good to know that there are still some people that feel the same way I do. I guess we're just unlucky not to have one nearby.
Thanks guys....
I cannot stand inconsiderate people like that guy. Not everything needs to destroyed for his advantage.....ya know? I just wish that would not have happened to your big beautiful oak tree.
I couldn't have said it better. He will be sorely missed. I have always hoped he would come back here.
YES - SUE THE SOB ! ! !
AND - Depending on the state where you live, "You" certainly would have a case - even if it is just in civil court . . . Just check out the "NOLA - Law for All" website, with some very specific information about what you can do that I found via Google:
When a Neighbor Damages or Destroys Your Tree
Getting compensation for tree damage, and other remedies for tree owners.
"You" can probably find more for your specific state (seems California is the strictest). Also, if the police officer/s do not do anything, go speak with the Sergeant/Captain in charge if they would help you make a citizens arrest then . . . Just a thought . . . Getting compensation for tree damage, and other remedies for tree owners.
Jeesh, Qew, definitely sue the ba$terd (deliberate miss-spell since he's a real sheet)! Coming on your property and cutting up your tree without even asking or talking to you is actually a form of theft, although the legal community may see that differently. I hope you got photos of him moving the evidence because that will go to intent in a trial.
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Well, we are going to have to suck it up on this one. The owner of the tree service, who just happens to have a contract with the county to keep trees out of the road, told us if the tree is within 30 feet of the center of our road, it falls under county control. I didn't bring anything to measure with, but eyeballing it, it is. So basically, unless the county wants to go after him, which they assuredly won't, there is nothing we can do. I will still be getting legal advice and will AT LEAST have notice sent to the bozo that he is not welcome on our land, to put it nicely. I will save all the pictures and we have a written quote on the removal of the downed wood, which will be moved within a few days.
I've thought of all kinds of diabolical retaliation, none of which I would actually do, but it helps blow off some steam. That and the target practice we are about to enjoy. Nothing like pulling the trigger and making some noise to relieve tension.
I've thought of all kinds of diabolical retaliation, none of which I would actually do, but it helps blow off some steam. That and the target practice we are about to enjoy. Nothing like pulling the trigger and making some noise to relieve tension.
I am sorry.....sometimes things just do not make sense and that is truly not fair at all.Well, we are going to have to suck it up on this one. The owner of the tree service, who just happens to have a contract with the county to keep trees out of the road, told us if the tree is within 30 feet of the center of our road, it falls under county control. I didn't bring anything to measure with, but eyeballing it, it is. So basically, unless the county wants to go after him, which they assuredly won't, there is nothing we can do. I will still be getting legal advice and will AT LEAST have notice sent to the bozo that he is not welcome on our land, to put it nicely. I will save all the pictures and we have a written quote on the removal of the downed wood, which will be moved within a few days.
I've thought of all kinds of diabolical retaliation, none of which I would actually do, but it helps blow off some steam. That and the target practice we are about to enjoy. Nothing like pulling the trigger and making some noise to relieve tension.
Qew, I'd argue that the tree is my property and the County had no intention of trimming it. Therefor this ..... violated all kinds of laws, including dropping branches into the street without proper safety measures, such as a police officer to insure traffic safety. I'm sure a good, imaginative, litigator could make one heck of a great argument. The costs might not be worth it though, although if you get awarded enough, and the idiot has something worthwhile, it could at least pay for itself.
I'd ask around for the best civil attorney in town and at least make a visit for an opinion.
I'd ask around for the best civil attorney in town and at least make a visit for an opinion.
What "awsum" Said ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Don't let him get away with this . . .
AND - Although I am not an advocate for unnecessary use of firearms at all - A little Gun/Rifle Practice in the back yard really sounds like a GREAT idea too . . .
Qew, if you want to rattle him do your target practice in three round "bursts". Fire three, wait a few seconds and see where they went, then fire three more. (combat pistol tactic)
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