Cloud Chasers...

[alicewonderland]

Yes, that is the closest. Still some issue with leaks on planes and such. If they can produce a non-battery, licensed as drug one, it would be even better.

i remember they created some kind of 'nicotine water' that was later discontinued or deemed unsafe. When you think of it though, vaping high MG nic like 24-36mg in an rda, is MURDER on your throat. I can't imagine a 'mist' with nicotine being sprayed directly onto the inner linings of your mouth, that must burn like hell. Have you ever licked 24-36mg nicotine? .... stings your tongue lol. That quickmist thing must be like low nicotine content otherwise i can see that being unpleasant.

after reading on it, it seems it is only 1mg per 'spray'. Makes me wonder how much nicotine is actually delivered to our body when we vape. I chain vape on 6mg nowadays and I never get that 'high' I used to when i vaped 12-24mg.

 

[caramel]

I think what you're proposing would be a GREAT alternative for those who are into cigarette/nicotine cessation and, for whatever reason, didn't find success with either the patch or the gum. But for the rest of us who vape as a healthy alternative to smoking but who still really enjoy the experience of inhaling and exhaling vapor (whether chasing clouds, "tootling" puffs or anywhere in between), I think a nearly "invisible vape" will be a mostly disappointing experience.

You are 100% correct, however it would be nice to have an unpunishable public/travel use device, while keeping the classic gear at home, and yes, why not, chase cloudz there too. We tend to attach to a single device to be used at all times (I'm guilty of it too) but there are advantages in having multiple devices, each for its own purpose.

 

[caramel]

i remember they created some kind of 'nicotine water' that was later discontinued or deemed unsafe. When you think of it though, vaping high MG nic like 24-36mg in an RDA, is MURDER on your throat. I can't imagine a 'mist' with nicotine being sprayed directly onto the inner linings of your mouth, that must burn like hell. Have you ever licked 24-36mg nicotine? **** stings your tongue lol. That quickmist thing must be like low nicotine content otherwise i can see that being unpleasant

It is unpleasant for low nic vapers - I can attest from own experience that I have to rinse after 10 sec or I gag. It's geared towards heavy smokers.

 

[alicewonderland]

lol I was just thinking about the old stuff people used to make into mods... U could get a altoids can and make it into a mod, but have a cartomizer that sits inside the altoids can as well. then just have a little hole on the side and have the driptip recessed so the outside just looks like a hole with a gasket around it. You could just look like some weirdo sucking on the corner of your altoids mint can constantly lol.

also googling a bit, I found someone who actually made what you were suggesting.

PuffIt Inhaler Vaporizer Review - Quit Smoking Community

 

[Thrasher]

Theres a company making pocket units that look like asthma inhalers screw on a cart and good to go

 

[caramel]

Oh yeah, the second one looks like a winner. Thanks for the link. I think I'm in for one.

 

[caferacer]

You are 100% correct, however it would be nice to have an unpunishable public/travel use device, while keeping the classic gear at home, and yes, why not, chase cloudz there too. We tend to attach to a single device to be used at all times (I'm guilty of it too) but there are advantages in have multiple devices, each for its own purpose.

Agreed! I guess I fall into a separate category as you, as I definitely have "out and about" beater devices and others devoted strictly to home use. The bigger concern, obviously, is the very notion of an "unpunishable" device. Wouldn't it be great if we didn't have to worry about getting "punished" by the non-vaping community? I would hope that in time, enough data that supports the relative safety of vaping will come out so that the public at large will stop vilifying vapers like they do smokers. Until then, I'll happily puff on a relatively indiscreet tank when out and about while "chucking clouds" at home. But I'm not a cloud chaser, I swear!

 

[DomDoobie]

I laugh every time I see that cat that says it has to steep how long ?

 

[alicewonderland]

I laugh every time I see that cat that says it has to steep how long ?

Lol thats why I stole it from Andria, since she doesnt use it as her icon anymore and I missed it

 

[Ryedan]

For me, vaping is both hobby and necessity to avoid analogs. Im an addict. Im not ashamed of that. But i can appreciate the purely hobbyist approach to vaping. But why, o' leavened and unleavened masses of the forums, is there ANY backlash against cloud chasing?

There is a percentage of the population that have limited tolerance for people who do not do 'It' the same way they do. Replace 'It' with almost anything you can think of. IMO that is the answer to your question.

I generally try to balance that segment of the population by being non-judgmental as long as someone is doing 'It' safely

 

[Thrasher]

I find it odd, even in this thread
As soon as you express the thought that maybe its not so much being against cloud chasing as it it being for them doing it safely.

The cloud chasers instantly become defensive, brush off that notion and swear theres some other motivation behind it. It would seem the cloud chasers are the ones with the actual chip on the shoulder, and just refuse to understand we dont care what you do as long as you understand what your doing.
But then again if many of them paid attention vamped wouldnt be a popular 40 amp battery.

2/3 of the forum is sub ohmers and 100+watt mod owners yet there's some great conspiracy in play.
Theres tc, sub ohm, cloud chasing, extreme coiling, rda and all kinds of sub sections. And one little tootle thread yet the forum most be biased against all those posters.

many are all convinced the forum is out to get them because 1 or 2 people out of 5000 said something they didnt like.

 

[Dioxyde]

Yeah I don't see many people bashing "cloud chasers" either, but there certainly is a lot of concern about safety which I think we can all agree is warranted. The B&M stores that send new vapers out with .1ohm builds without even asking about their batteries freak me the .... out.

Anyways, there are problems with the term itself imo, most likely resulting in the defensive reactions: "Cloud Chaser", literally sounds like you're calling someone an idiot, I don't know how a label as stupid as that could ever be used in a way that isn't meant to degrade someone and divide and degrade vaping as a whole. Witnessing the vapor/smoke exhaled is a crucial part of the ritual and for most people the bigger the better. All vaping, to some degree is cloud chasing, and all vaping, to some degree is not cloud chasing. It's not hard to wrap your head around and we don't need a stupid label for people who take mighty big and airy hits.

 

[SissySpike]

If they would just learn to stay out of the Walmaet cereal aisle all would be well!

 

[Thrasher]

Lol

 

[Dom]

tell you what. You can blow some huge clouds with the Lemo2 at .6 ohms. It has the kanger subtank beat by a mile.

 

[USMCotaku]

tell you what. You can blow some huge clouds with the Lemo2 at .6 ohms. It has the kanger subtank beat by a mile.

I dunno..... Have you tried a sub tank with a Clapton coil in the rba section?
Pure vape bliss

 

[VHRB2014]

Eh, IDK.
Hitting a cerberus @.30 right now and its the bomb o matic.
But if I see a guy having to hold his mod with a kitchen mit, Im outta there.

 

[aikanae1]

Lol thats why I stole it from Andria, since she doesnt use it as her icon anymore and I missed it

I have to laugh too. It's one I made. It's nice seeing stuff spread around.

 

[Robert Dean]

What both those posters said. I sub ohm i use a mech.

I also understand the bs marketing of these so called vaping batteries many chasers don't for some reason.

Several problems in general
First believing a mystery company can suddenly make the best batteries the planet has ever seen- just for vaping. ( when they don't even actually manufacture ANY batteries)

Then pushing batteries, any of them well beyond their intended usage.

Extremly low and dangerouse builds for no apparent benefit. Somehow people dont seem to get that a 45 amp build cant pull 45 amps from a battery if it only makes 30. Yet its look at me im at 145 watts! Um no, no your not. Your at whatever the battery is limited to. To add to that batteries aren't designed to run at pulse voltage continuously. Its only there for a buffer so the cell isnt damaged during a surge, yet many think this is the way its supposed to be used.


Do you really need a .14 ohm build? To many rebuilders this shows you chose brute forcing a build instead of learning how to actually tune and balance abuild for best results


The amount of people talking about vented batteries didnt become a common occurrence until these off the wall cloud chasing builds became popular


Not all, but many seem to disrespect any and all who do not agree with their choice or choose to vape a different way.
Many posts about b&m employees with condiscending attitudes towards customers not interested in going thermal with thier atty's

You see, I agree with you, to a point. I have a quad coil in my troll right now, coming out to about .15 ohms. But, I use a battery that I know can handle it. I am as safe as possible. Now, the people who are running sub .1 builds with no regard to proper battery safety, that is the group of individuals giving could chasers a bad name. I have run this exact set up for a while now. I've won competitions with this build. And I'm only pulling 28 amps. (Roughly) this is how I like my Vape. I no longer (backed down from starting at 36mg) Vape any nic, and I'm proud of it. This has become my new addiction. Blowing huge clouds, and getting better flavor. The problem is not the group, but the individuals.

 

[Robert Dean]

It has nothing to do with safety sure they will say it is because it sounds more noble than the truth. They have decided that unless you vape like they do youre a cloud chasing, disrespectful adolescent. And since most of the mods vape in a similar manner we get the short end of the stick.

I'm sorry, that's just the pot calling the kettle black. "They" are stereotyping Cloud Chasers (Which I myself aspire to) and so you're stereotyping them? You should word your responses carefully. I Vape what used to be called super subohm. But, then there are people that Vape less than a tenth of an ohm. There is no tested or proven battery that can handle that safely. I have seen first hand, a mech mod explode because some jack ... wanted to win a competition and built down to .06 on a purple efest. That is the problem here. Those are the people that give "Cloud Chasers" a bad name.