Colorado man sues after explosion

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John D in CT

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Not to mention the green dot next to his screen name when he is logged on......

I just do not pay attention to that stuff. I guess I'm just in my own little world, where the rivers are filled with juice, the clouds are vapor, and ProVari's and Buzz Pro's grow on trees - and whoever comes and goes just doesn't really register - except for trolls maybe.

And no, I am not stoned; I gave that up a loooong time ago. :)
 

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I dont understand why he cant post . Two hours after my last post hes still here on the thread so i dont get it. Since hes reading all of this im sure hes sees the importance of posting but im thinking it must be false.

When you have an attorney telling you not to post any more information. You do not post any more information. Sorry.
 

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I hope when he can say something, he'll come back and tell us what all transpired and share pictures too, are we going to see this in the news somewhere? I guess we'll either find out....or we won't. Good luck, to you Thundercat, whatever happened. No injury though, so not sure what the attorney is about (just get your $$ back from the vendors- mod and batteries). :confused: At least that was my take on it from the read, or are there emotional damages? :facepalm:
 

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When you have an attorney telling you not to post any more information. You do not post any more information. Sorry.

And I just dined with the Dalai Lama. Lovely guy, the Lama. I had the duck, he had the veggie platter.

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TennDave: "No injury though, so not sure what the attorney is about"

"That's a bingo". (Make sure you all put "Inglourious Basterds" on your bucket list).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ugpg8XruhVk


TennDave: " .... or are there emotional damages?"

If anyone should sue for "emotional damages", it's Buzzkill.


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Here's my take on it. The guy had absolutely no idea what he was getting into when he posted that BS in this thread. This is not just any old thread. Once he realized what he had done, and where he was, Johnny Cochran comes back from the dead and advises him to clam up. The end.
 
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They sell AW batteries for it on site for that PV. I wonder why he used Radioshacks (unprotected)? batteries.

He bought them from RadioShack because he had forgotten his charger at home. He saw a RadioShack store while he was on a trip. He went in, showed his Tenergy's that came with the V3 and asked the associate if they carried them. The RS associate said "yes we do" So he bought them. It is a misquote that he bought them the next day. He had his V3 since the end of November. He nor the associate were aware of "protected batteries"
 

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Excuse me, but no one has called thundercat a liar.

What's going on here is that we're exchanging information regarding batteries and their safe use; when someone drops an anonymous post reporting a catastrophic failure, it's not unreasonable for the rest of us to ask that someone to (A) document the truth of his claim, and (B) provide the pertinent details, such as the make and model of the battery set in question.

The reputation of a device with an unusually high level of user-protection—and our own ability to protect ourselves—is at stake.
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So Thundercats, you have been given ample time to produce pics.... So I am guessing like many others that this did not actually happen and is obviously some kind of fishing expedition to upset a few people around here and that's not cool..... Either produce some pics or as we all know the story, It didn't happen!!!!!!

Yes he is.
Yes we have to protect the right to vape. We can not control how the batteries company makes there batteries. They are going to fail. This is why I would like to see a small manual in our kits. Information will keep us from seeing more of these explosions from happening. But we can not control them all.
 

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I have to admit that's an assumption on my part. There was an incident with a Prodigy reported here on ECF shortly before the Florida story broke. I believe this is the thread, post #32 to be specific. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/puresmoker/79545-so-discussion-exploding-batteries.html It seems like the timing and location matches, so I ran with it. It could however be a totally different incident. That post interestingly says they were LifePo batteries though, so I'm not 100% sure.

I was the one that said that. When Phil bought his V3 he came to me, he didnt know what to order. I placed his order for him. He had two sets of tenergy's from PS with his v3 (all of you assuming he was penny pinching...sorry!) When Thereasa first told me about the incident, she never said anything about him using the RS batts. Thats why in my posts I said he was using the Tenergys. This did happen before the FL incident. The fact that he was using the unprotected batts answers alot of questions. We can all agree that was a mistake. But keep this in mind, not everyone scours these forums and is as up to date on all of the issues, dangers, etc that goes with vaping. He didnt have internet to reasearch batteries...stacking, protected, unprotected blah blah blah. He bought a product that he assumed was safe. He had no idea there was a difference. To some, a battery is a battery. Does that make him an idiot? Had there been some sort of warning ON (rather than on their website)his V3 when he recieved it stating that using unprotected batts can be very dangerous, I'm sure he would have had the presence of mind to mention to the clerk at RS that it was important that they be of the protected variety. As I mentioned in an earlier post, he was away from home and he was just trying to get his V3 working again. As far as all those playing jury already, think about this. When a vendor manufactures a product shouldnt it be safegarded? The V3 was flawed. It had two little vents in the switch for Gods sake, that was IT! Thats why the new version now has vents in the side. As a manufacturer you have to assume someone is going to put the wrong batteries in, or the switch will get pressed in your pocket or whatever. Any and all reasonable possibilities need to be expected. It should've had vents in the adapter, and in the tube at the very least.

Before you all run Phil in the ground please give it some thought. In my opinion, what he did (with his knowledge of the product) wasnt idiotic. He unknowingly made a mistake that has thus far cost him his eyesight, his teeth, his job, and on and on. I guarantee that if this had happened to any of you, or your loved ones you would feel entitled to compensation too.

If you have any questions feel free to ask. I'm still vaping strong with my proVari and I hate as much as the rest of you when incidents like this happen, and the blowback effect it has on the industry. But the fact is, it's reality.
 
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I was the one that said that. When Phil bought his V3 he came to me, he didnt know what to order. I placed his order for him. He had two sets of tenergy's from PS with his v3 (all of you assuming he was penny pinching...sorry!) When Thereasa first told me about the incident, she never said anything about him using the RS batts. Thats why in my posts I said he was using the Tenergys. This did happen before the FL incident. The fact that he was using the unprotected batts answers alot of questions. We can all agree that was a mistake. But keep this in mind, not everyone scours these forums and is as up to date on all of the issues, dangers, etc that goes with vaping. He didnt have internet to reasearch batteries...stacking, protected, unprotected blah blah blah. He bought a product that he assumed was safe. He had no idea there was a difference. To some, a battery is a battery. Does that make him an idiot? Had there been some sort of warning ON (rather than on their website)his V3 when he recieved it stating that using unprotected batts can be very dangerous, I'm sure he would have had the presence of mind to mention to the clerk at RS that it was important that they be of the protected variety. As I mentioned in an earlier post, he was away from home and he was just trying to get his V3 working again. As far as all those playing jury already, think about this. When a vendor manufactures a product shouldnt it be safegarded? The V3 was flawed. It had two little vents in the switch for Gods sake, that was IT! Thats why the new version now has vents in the side. As a manufacturer you have to assume someone is going to put the wrong batteries in, or the switch will get pressed in your pocket or whatever. Any and all reasonable possibilities need to be expected. It should've had vents in the adapter, and in the tube at the very least.

Before you all run Phil in the ground please give it some thought. In my opinion, what he did (with his knowledge of the product) wasnt idiotic. He unknowingly made a mistake that has thus far costed him his eyesight, his teeth, his job, and on and on. I guarantee that if this had happened to any of you, or your loved ones you would feel entitled to compensation too.

If you have any questions feel free to ask. I'm still vaping strong with my proVari and I hate as much as the rest of you when incidents like this happen, and the blowback effect it has on the industry. But the fact is, it's reality.

Very well said. As I have already said. I don't care how long you have been vaping if it's your first mod then you become a newbie again. We need a manual in our kits. How would someone know about the difference in the batts if they were not informed. Information will help us keep the right to vape. Live to ride , ride to live.
 

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I was the one that said that. When Phil bought his V3 he came to me, he didnt know what to order. I placed his order for him. He had two sets of tenergy's from PS with his v3 (all of you assuming he was penny pinching...sorry!) When Thereasa first told me about the incident, she never said anything about him using the RS batts. Thats why in my posts I said he was using the Tenergys. This did happen before the FL incident. The fact that he was using the unprotected batts answers alot of questions. We can all agree that was a mistake. But keep this in mind, not everyone scours these forums and is as up to date on all of the issues, dangers, etc that goes with vaping. He didnt have internet to reasearch batteries...stacking, protected, unprotected blah blah blah. He bought a product that he assumed was safe. He had no idea there was a difference. To some, a battery is a battery. Does that make him an idiot? Had there been some sort of warning ON (rather than on their website)his V3 when he recieved it stating that using unprotected batts can be very dangerous, I'm sure he would have had the presence of mind to mention to the clerk at RS that it was important that they be of the protected variety. As I mentioned in an earlier post, he was away from home and he was just trying to get his V3 working again. As far as all those playing jury already, think about this. When a vendor manufactures a product shouldnt it be safegarded? The V3 was flawed. It had two little vents in the switch for Gods sake, that was IT! Thats why the new version now has vents in the side. As a manufacturer you have to assume someone is going to put the wrong batteries in, or the switch will get pressed in your pocket or whatever. Any and all reasonable possibilities need to be expected. It should've had vents in the adapter, and in the tube at the very least.

Before you all run Phil in the ground please give it some thought. In my opinion, what he did (with his knowledge of the product) wasnt idiotic. He unknowingly made a mistake that has thus far costed him his eyesight, his teeth, his job, and on and on. I guarantee that if this had happened to any of you, or your loved ones you would feel entitled to compensation too.

If you have any questions feel free to ask. I'm still vaping strong with my proVari and I hate as much as the rest of you when incidents like this happen, and the blowback effect it has on the industry. But the fact is, it's reality.

alright not trying to argue or anything because your right information with our mods are def needed with out a doubt, but my question is why would someone order him a mod and not go over the pro-cations in handling said device? exactly what you said he was not knowledgeable of the whole battery thing... and from what you said that its the manufacturer's fault for not including instructions, you are in the same boat. You ordered him the device knew about protected batteries but yet didnt go over it with him. So does that mean your just as liable as the company? Now i understand ya maybe its something you forgot and left out, Completely understandable it happens. Ok so im not holding you accountable for it and nor would i Do you know for sure if the mod would have came with instructions he would have read them thoroughly? I feel very bad for him and what has happened and i wish him well, we are all here for the same reason to kick our habbit. So this is not an attack just my opinion and take it as that.

happy Vaping!
 

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If you buy any other product, you assume it to be safe.
But you continue to blindly defend a product that permits and invites misuse, whether out of negligence or ignorance, it doesn't matter if the seller didn't provide proper safe handling instructions and warnings.
If you bought a robot vacuum and it burned your house down, because you used it in accordance with the instructions provided with the device, would that be your fault? User error?
A consumer is not required to research the safety procedures necessary to use a product. They are provided with the product. Duh.
 

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The fact that he was using the unprotected batts answers alot of questions. We can all agree that was a mistake. But keep this in mind, not everyone scours these forums and is as up to date on all of the issues, dangers, etc that goes with vaping. He didnt have internet to reasearch batteries...stacking, protected, unprotected blah blah blah. He bought a product that he assumed was safe. He had no idea there was a difference. To some, a battery is a battery.
Anybody that does not understand this needs to stop posting about this topic.
Because if you don't understand this you aren't living in the real world.
 
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Theres only 2 mods ive bought the came with a complete user guide and warning , the rest all bubble wrap and a box.

I think thats the main problem and advertise , you can see most of the websites selling mods they dont even put a warning saying "advance user device" or anything along those lines ; if you ask me "mods" should not be sell on regular shops and will be best be sold on forums or specific forums dedicated for that (they exist) that way most of the people that get there hands on these pvs know what they dealing with.

These is only the start ! if you compare old vaping days with new times theres a new mod everyday (not everyday but you get the point lol) and the fact is they look really nice :) specially the metal tubes like the prodigy and people like the looks of it so they get it without not even knowing how it works etc.....

If you search the forum for threads of "noobs" asking for suggest you see a lot people saying to get a mod ! Get a mod you will thank me later ! :) and thats also a big problem :( like someone mentioned to most people a battery is a battery and most think those a pretty safe.


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