Could you quit vaping if circumstances proved it to be the best choice (read FDA/local political decisions)?

[sub4me]

I understand quitting smoking is difficult but it is possible if desired and the same goes for vaping, if a person really wants to quit they do, if someone is serious about doing something they do it. No one forces anyone to smoke or vape, its done out of choice.

 

[AndriaD]

Could I? I don't know and frankly, I'm not interested in trying.

What, you mean because some politicians/bureaucrats want me to? Ask me if I care what THEY want. See my sig.

This exactly. They don't have the right nor the power to force me to stop vaping. I *will* find a way, because the only alternative is smoking, and I really don't ever want to do that, I finally got free of that life-sucker habit!

Andria

 

[Jman8]

Ok. So now you have quit analogs (bless your soul!).

Haven't quit analogs, but have gone cold turkey before in this life (for 8+ years)

Could you quit vaping if circumstances proved it to be the best choice (read FDA/local political decisions)?

I don't see political decisions moving in this direction. If they did, I believe it would increase usage as it would very likely be laced with deception to try and make people quit.

But if circumstances proved it to be the best choice, for me, to stop vaping, I am fairly certain I could stop. I imagine going cold turkey from vaping to be around 30 times easier than doing so with analogs. And analogs wasn't all that tough after 3 days.

 

[sub4me]

There are other ways to get nicotine besides vaping or smoking you know. If you quit vaping you don't have to smoke and if you quit smoking you don't have to vape.

 

[ctruth]

.... No one forces anyone to smoke or vape, its done out of choice.

Sorry, but I disagree.

Cigarettes have been designed over decades with SPECIFIC chemicals and additives to KEEP THE USER ADDICTED.

Once hooked, regardless of "intellect", most people no longer have a desire or "choice" to quit.

Do the research, including laboratory trials of cigarette addicted primates and other animals. Including laboratory trials of mice that when given the choice between food or smoke, starved themselves rather than give up sucking on tubes filled with cigarette smoke.

I do not believe those starving mice were just trying to "look cool".

DO THE RESEARCH!

 

[AndriaD]

Sorry, but I disagree.

Cigarettes have been designed over decades with SPECIFIC chemicals and additives to KEEP THE USER ADDICTED.

Once hooked, regardless of "intellect", most people no longer have a desire or "choice" to quit.

Do the research, including laboratory trials of addicted mice that starved themselves rather than give up sucking on tubes filled with cigarette smoke.

Totally agree. E-cigs are the FIRST AND ONLY way I've ever been able to quit smoking, in 39 years.

Andria

 

[ctruth]

Sorry Andria - I was in the midst of editing that post - please delete your reply if you disagree.

 

[UntamedRose]

I'll vape if I wanna...and take a bit of offense at the bless your soul stuffs.....

 

[Fstop]

FDA will probably not leave things alone, since they smell more money to be stolen from hard working people. Either way out of spite against tobacco co. I would not go back to cigarettes if not for my health. lol DIY is a real option and since I'm only vaping 72 days at .3 - nicotine, If I wanted to continue vaping I would find a way. Read, learn, read some more.

 

[ctruth]

I'll vape if I wanna...and take a bit of offense at the bless your soul stuffs.....

Now, now…let's remember to take our meds before responding….

"bless your soul" is metaphor for " May the Great Bird of the Galaxy bless your planet"

 

[sub4me]

Nobody got you hooked, you decided to smoke or vape, its common knowledge that nicotine is addictive no matter the delivery. There's also many ways to beat an addiction. Do your research.

 

[PapaSloth]

Nobody got you hooked, you decided to smoke or vape, its common knowledge that nicotine is addictive no matter the delivery. There's also many ways to beat an addiction. Do your research.

I remember you. You were the same guy who was on about how no one would be safe until the FDA controlled the manufacture of all eliquid and the government regulated the whole vaping industry.

I suspect you have an agenda for these posts that you're not sharing with the rest of us. What are your affiliations?

 

[ctruth]

Nobody got you hooked, you decided to smoke or vape, its common knowledge that nicotine is addictive no matter the delivery. There's also many ways to beat an addiction. Do your research.

It's not the nicotine in cigarettes that hooks you - it's the other stuff….ok that's still somewhat debatable.

I will continue my 56 years of research and if I find something compelling that supports your theory…I'll get back to you.

 

[sub4me]

I remember you. You were the same guy who was on about how no one would be safe until the FDA controlled the manufacture of all eliquid and the government regulated the whole vaping industry.

Are you a troll, or just employed by Big Pharma?

No, I never said that so run along and troll someone else.

 

[sub4me]

It's not the nicotine in cigarettes that hooks you - it's the other stuff….ok that's still somewhat debatable.

I will continue my 56 years of research and if I find something compelling that supports your theory…I'll get back to you.

Lol, yeah your big in theories but short on facts.

 

[Deeo]

Nobody got you hooked, you decided to smoke or vape, its common knowledge that nicotine is addictive no matter the delivery. There's also many ways to beat an addiction. Do your research.

So I guess when I was 11 or so years old , I knew nicotine was addictive?... I thought I just wanted to look cool with friends. Back then I just said I was buying for my mother because back then we didn't have the 18 years or older to buy them nor the research of the cancer etc. at least at this young age I never new about it.

Also I am beating my addiction with lowering my nic to 3 mg this week and then in a few months to 0 . I truly believe that I am able to lower the nic and get off ecigs. Does it really matter what way people quit?

 

[sub4me]

But you made the choice, you weren't forced or tricked into it.

 

[PapaSloth]

Various quotes you've made so far. It's pretty clear you have some sort of agenda. We get it.

"Nothing wrong with vaping and smoking, it doesn't have to be one or the other. I do both and quite like it."

"Exactly right, because the majority of people are gonna walk into a store and buy their equipment and liquid with the belief its relatively safe, which just isn't always the case, especially when they have no real idea whats in the liquid besides the nicotine their looking to vape."

"I agree and that's a big part of the problem. You can walk into a lot of stores and buy whatever you like. Maybe you buy it because it looks nice, the clerk says it's the best, or the latest, or whatever. But you as a consumer have no idea of the power or danger your holding in your hand and in many cases there aren't even instructions on how to use it. Most may just consider because it easily available in the store it's probably for the most part safe to use."

"The bottle size is defiantly an problem, however a printed pamphlet along with the bottle could be attached so at least the consumer could read a list of contents, the amount of each ingredient, and chemicals used. Then we at least have a reference to consider if we still wish to ingest it or not."

"I understand what your saying but its more complicated then yes or no. Regulations will promote protections however nothing is harm or danger free."

"Nope, its legal and is being sold openly many places that's the problem. No regulations means anyone can put any substance in the bottle and call it e liquid as long as it does not contain an illegal substance."

"Of course it doesn't which is sad really cause the next guy will sell the same bad bottle to someone else as long as there is no requirements of approved ingredients and because of that the forced regulations your so against just might happen."

"New Jersey has a criminal case for that exact type of liquid sold to teenagers. I believe Georgia also has a criminal case for a similar incident. Thinking it doest effect all of us is just wrong. I don't want kids getting ahold of that, I don't want my neighbor doing it either, or the guy driving next to me. See how fast that can effect you?? Suddenly makes you think different about the safety of these liquids. There's a pic of the bottle the liquid was sold in and it looks just like any other liquid. Look it up."

"Wrong, it should be all of our concern considering its easily available to anyone and could easily be sold by a clerk who thinks its just the latest new liquid but has no idea what it really contains. That's an awful big danger and if you can't see that danger does exist I would invite you to read up on it as its very real."

 

[Deeo]

But you made the choice, you weren't forced or tricked into it.

I was not taught that it was a drug, I was taught it was to be cool. So in a sense yes I was tricked. I remember all those tobacco commercials.

 

[AndriaD]

Sorry Andria - I was in the midst of editing that post - please delete your reply if you disagree.

No, I still agree. Nobody who truly understands the risks yet still continues to smoke can be said to be doing it by choice -- they do it because they must, or suffer dreadfully, and most of us are not masochists. That's why e-cigs are so valuable, they cut the 'suffer dreadfully' down to "discomforted slightly, sometimes" until it turns into "enjoy immensely."

Andria