Couple of questions about e-liquid/atomizer

[Javichu]

You could always add Koolada, Peppermint, Menthol or a combination thereof @Cloud-FF7 for more of a throat hit.

And with the salts and freebase, if you reach a limit that you can tolerate the harshness of freebase but it just doesn't quite give you the nic fix that you need. You can then add salts to get upto the total that you need.

Currently im at 6mg/ml,next time i buy e-liquid ill go up to 9,want to do it slowly and not rush it.
but yeah this whole thing is more trial and error than i previously thought,but i guess everyone went thru the same thing when they started.
Well i started november 2018 but until now i have just been cruising thru,not really putting much thought into it.
Now im trying to save up for a new mod,my swag 80 looks kinda tiny with the Innokin Zlide on it hehe

 

[Mordacai]

Still keep on trying to tell myself that I don't need a couple of these at one side @Cloud-FF7.
Hadron 220,Hadron 220

They're a mod that has a Squonk backpack to be released, also they'll pretty much run anything.

 

[Javichu]

Still keep on trying to tell myself that I don't need a couple of these at one side @Cloud-FF7.
Hadron 220,Hadron 220

They're a mod that has a Squonk backpack to be released, also they'll pretty much run anything.

ouch!!
looks good thou but way out of my price range for now,locked at home so i cant work as a translator for any of the brits that live here and my swag 80 is on its last legs lol
if it breaks down which will be soon i think ill be sucking on the exhaust pipe of my car hahahaha

 

[Mordacai]

A kettle may well work in a pinch.

And most of us here have got gear from fasttech, 3fvape, 2fdeal and the likes. They're the Chinese webstores that you can get items from at reasonable prices @Cloud-FF7, keep an eye out for bargains and clearance items.

Vapecrawler is pretty useful as well.

 

[Javichu]

A kettle may well work in a pinch.

And most of us here have got gear from fasttech, 3fvape, 2fdeal and the likes. They're the Chinese webstores that you can get items from at reasonable prices @Cloud-FF7, keep an eye out for bargains and clearance items.

Vapecrawler is pretty useful as well.

Thanks for the heads up,will check for some good deals.
For sure i just want a single battery mod,something about having 2 just kinda makes me nervous,dont ask why hehe
cheers

 

[Mordacai]

Well for single battery @Cloud-FF7, you're probably best looking at 21700 mods. But there's nothing wrong with dual 18650 battery mods either.

I have both in my collection, dual 18650 at home and single 21700 for when I go mobile.

Biggest thing to consider is what types of vaping you're doing when choosing or narrowing down, as that'll dictate what cells you'll need to use.

 

[virm]

Currently im at 6mg/ml,next time i buy e-liquid ill go up to 9,want to do it slowly and not rush it.
but yeah this whole thing is more trial and error than i previously thought,but i guess everyone went thru the same thing when they started.
Well i started november 2018 but until now i have just been cruising thru,not really putting much thought into it.
Now im trying to save up for a new mod,my swag 80 looks kinda tiny with the Innokin Zlide on it hehe

you're trying to raise your nic tolerance?? why?!

 

[Javichu]

Well for single battery @Cloud-FF7, you're probably best looking at 21700 mods. But there's nothing wrong with dual 18650 battery mods either.

I have both in my collection, dual 18650 at home and single 21700 for when I go mobile.

Biggest thing to consider is what types of vaping you're doing when choosing or narrowing down, as that'll dictate what cells you'll need to use.

For now im just going to focus on getting the ''ingredients'' perfect for what i need,PG/VG,amount of nicotine,etc,etc and once im there ill see what mod would best be suited for me.
I think that is the best way to go,right?

you're trying to raise your nic tolerance?? why?!

Need more of a lung hit,when i started i used 3mg/ml,now im with 6 but meh,still not feeling it.
Thought that salts could be a solution but as you said that isnt a solution so ill be trying more nicotine with maybe some of the aromas @Mordacai told me (Koolada, Peppermint, Menthol)

So much trial and error,but im guessing alot of people went thru the same tribulations im going thru.

cheers

 

[Mordacai]

Those extra flavours will certainly add throat hit @Cloud-FF7, you only really need to tweak the Nicotine to get the desired nic fix really. And with MTL it's usually increased due to less vapour produced.

And of course it's better to work out what you need and not what you want first when it comes to mods and gear.

But as an DTL and MTL user depending, single 21700 or dual 18650 would be a better option as it covers the more heavy use DTL vaping style. As DTL requires more power.

Here's a few ideas on some decent mods.

Single 21700.

Vandy Vape Jackaroo (waterproof, dustproof and shockproof)
Vaporesso Armour Pro

Dual 18650.

Smoant Battlestar
Smoant Naboo
Smoant Charon
Smoant Ladon
Vaporesso Gen
Vaporesso Luxe (gets scratched up easily)
Geekvape Aegis (waterproof, dustproof and shockproof)

 

[Javichu]

Those extra flavours will certainly add throat hit @Cloud-FF7, you only really need to tweak the Nicotine to get the desired nic fix really. And with MTL it's usually increased due to less vapour produced.

And of course it's better to work out what you need and not what you want first when it comes to mods and gear.

But as an DTL and MTL user depending, single 21700 or dual 18650 would be a better option as it covers the more heavy use DTL vaping style. As DTL requires more power.

Here's a few ideas on some decent mods.

Single 21700.

Vandy Vape Jackaroo (waterproof, dustproof and shockproof)
Vaporesso Armour Pro

Dual 18650.

Smoant Battlestar
Smoant Naboo
Smoant Charon
Smoant Ladon
Vaporesso Gen
Vaporesso Luxe (gets scratched up easily)
Geekvape Aegis (waterproof, dustproof and shockproof)

Ding Ding!! winner winner chicken dinner!!

Really i mean really digging the Vandy Vape Jackaroo!!
Yeah,just watching a review and it looks very cool,i will most definitely keep it at the top of my list when it comes to buying a new bod.
Was just watching JaiHaze and he went ballistic on the poor mod hehe.
Thanks again for all the info buddy,much appreciated.

cheers

 

[Mordacai]

Most folks didn't like it @Cloud-FF7, due to the fact that you can't charge the battery using the mod. You had to have an external battery charger.

So it's been discontinued and it's difficult to find stock remaining, but it's not impossible.

And Nitecore LC10 is a great option for a dead basic battery charger that's portable, if you don't have one already.

 

[Javichu]

Most folks didn't like it @Cloud-FF7, due to the fact that you can't charge the battery using the mod. You had to have an external battery charger.

So it's been discontinued and it's difficult to find stock remaining, but it's not impossible.

And Nitecore LC10 is a great option for a dead basic battery charger that's portable, if you don't have one already.

ouch,not going to be buying it but i hope i can find one when i have the dough.
About the charger yeah i bought one the day i got the Swag,that way i could use one battery while the other one charges.
Not to fancy of a charger but it does the job.

 

[Mordacai]

Do 21700 cells fit or not though?

 

[Mordacai]

Vandy Vape Jackaroo Mod 100W Waterproof TC Box Mod

Vandy Vape JACKAROO 100W Waterproof Mod

Cheapest I could find for you @Cloud-FF7, the G10 panel versions are the ones you really want as it's dammed hard wearing stuff. Plus there's an Obsidian Black.

 

[Javichu]

Do 21700 cells fit or not though?

lucky i still had the box,says:

compatible from 16340 to 26700.
So not sure if the 21700 is in that range,it's this model:

Vandy Vape Jackaroo Mod 100W Waterproof TC Box Mod

Vandy Vape JACKAROO 100W Waterproof Mod

Cheapest I could find for you @Cloud-FF7, the G10 panel versions are the ones you really want as it's dammed hard wearing stuff. Plus there's an Obsidian Black.

cool,thanks for the links.
those look damn sweet,bookmarking them and hopefully ill get some cash soon hehe

you da man!!

 

[Mordacai]

Simple idea here to confirm @Cloud-FF7, measure the distance between the contacts when they're fully open.

But from what I've managed to Google, it seems hopeful that it possibly can fit 21700 cells.

 

[Punk In Drublic]

compatible from 16340 to 26700.
So not sure if the 21700 is in that range,it's this model:

The size of the cell is first 2 digits is it's diameter. Next 2 digits is its length. The remaining digit, which for the devices we use, will always be 0, states it is a round cell.

So an 18650 is 18mm in diameter, 65mm in length. and the remaining 0 reflects a round cell. If the charger states it can accept a 26700, then it can accept a 21700 (which is slightly smaller in diameter)

 

[Javichu]

The size of the cell is first 2 digits is it's diameter. Next 2 digits is its length. The remaining digit, which for the devices we use, will always be 0, states it is a round cell.

So an 18650 is 18mm in diameter, 65mm in length. and the remaining 0 reflects a round cell. If the charger states it can accept a 26700, then it can accept a 21700 (which is slightly smaller in diameter)

Going to copy and paste both answers,highly informative and with battery safety you can never be to careful.

cheers

 

[virm]

For now im just going to focus on getting the ''ingredients'' perfect for what i need,PG/VG,amount of nicotine,etc,etc and once im there ill see what mod would best be suited for me.
I think that is the best way to go,right?



Need more of a lung hit,when i started i used 3mg/ml,now im with 6 but meh,still not feeling it.
Thought that salts could be a solution but as you said that isnt a solution so ill be trying more nicotine with maybe some of the aromas @Mordacai told me (Koolada, Peppermint, Menthol)

So much trial and error,but im guessing alot of people went thru the same tribulations im going thru.

cheers

remember zlide and berserker are M(outh)T(o)L(ung), used at power less than 20watt; there won;t be a lung hit like when you're using D(irect)L(ung) tanks +30watts... if it's Throat Hit you mean, then yes, you can raise the nic and/or the PG, used irratant flavours like citrus, menthol, tobacco, etc and raise power/lessen the A(ir)F(low) maybe [stock coils, like the zlide are less flexible on power though than rebuildables, zlide coils might burn if you go above recommended]. sometimes it just needs getting used to, like for most of us here who gradually lessen the nicotine because we're trying to quit/break the addiction.

again, if you're not getting the dosage (flavour : nic : base ratios) right then all this doesn't mean anything. just one question, you linked us your flavour and base, are these the amounts? did you use 10ml of flavour that says 'dosage 10-12%' on 200mls of base+nic? coz that would mean the flavour is too diluted and it would be too weak...

 

[Javichu]

remember zlide and berserker are M(outh)T(o)L(ung), used at power less than 20watt; there won;t be a lung hit like when you're using D(irect)L(ung) tanks +30watts... if it's Throat Hit you mean, then yes, you can raise the nic and/or the PG, used irratant flavours like citrus, menthol, tobacco, etc and raise power/lessen the A(ir)F(low) maybe [stock coils, like the zlide are less flexible on power though than rebuildables, zlide coils might burn if you go above recommended]. sometimes it just needs getting used to, like for most of us here who gradually lessen the nicotine because we're trying to quit/break the addiction.

again, if you're not getting the dosage (flavour : nic : base ratios) right then all this doesn't mean anything. just one question, you linked us your flavour and base, are these the amounts? did you use 10ml of flavour that says 'dosage 10-12%' on 200mls of base+nic? coz that would mean the flavour is too diluted and it would be too weak...

Sorry for the late reply,pops came in weak from the dialysis so just now i put him in bed so he can regain some strength,poor guy...always comes in weak as hell from the damn machine.

Ok,so yeah about the proportions,i used these:

The Cellar Base 200ml (Nicotina 6mg) - Vapeototal

Came with big bottle of base and then the 6 tiny nicotine bottles,poured the 6 bottles in the big one then added this:

Phoenix - Vapeototal

Its fast acting,says from 3 to 5 days so sunday it will be 5 days since i mixed it so ill start using it,although i took out just a bit to try it and it seemed good.
Flavour was spot on and that was like 5 minutes after i mixed it,once it settles for the 5 days im guessing it will even taste better.

Odd thou,when i started vaping i didnt seem to have any problems,but now i just crave throat hit,like when it burns a bit on a drip RDA,not so much burnt but similar sensation,not sure im explaining myself correctly.

When i inhale im just not feeling it,fresh flavours like the ones im using do help a bit but i still find it lacking.

Thinking about it im not sure it's about the amount of nicotine,i think its more of a ''physical'' kick to the throat when i inhale,that is what i need.

Dang,im sorry to be such a pest with this and bother you guys so much,feel like a dumbass writing about it hehe

cheers