Cyborg - ProVari Killer?
- Thread starter Aikhme
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
- Status
vaping rule #32 maybe?
lol i dont rag on people for buying shoes at walmart.
i say if you dont like the dam thing just dont buy it ...see? that was easy........
lol i dont rag on people for buying shoes at walmart.
i say if you dont like the dam thing just dont buy it ...see? that was easy........
While this is in mild language, it is a derogatory statement that adds nothing the the conversation. Of course there is room for improvement, there always is. But my desired improvements are not the same as yours.
I use only carto tanks, with typical resistances, and I see nothing that this device does that would improves my vaping experience. In fact the Provari has features that are unnecessary. I argued for a long time that the Provari had unnecessary features, but I ended up buying one because I liked the form factor of the Provari Mini and the extra features do not get in my way. A simple BuzzPro with a dial would be sufficient it had a little more refinement and build quality. Not everyone wants to mess around with more complex systems such as rebuildable attys that this kind of device seems to appeal to.
As far as the Provari Mini goes, it has a tapered top cap that looks stupid with a carto tank, they should offer a flat top. They should offer tanks that match the Provari, which would be simple for them to do since they are already machining similar parts and there is no R&D required. The button is in the wrong place, it is too close to the center of the device making it impossible to use holding it in the palm of your hand. The electronic module should pop out so the device could be completely broken down for cleaning or self repair. Most of these changes would mean nothing to most of you, and I would be wrong to call you a fanboy of whatever other device because you saw no need for these "improvements." I just recently bought a Provari Mini mostly because I wanted a VV device that looked good to me a smaller package, and I would be just as quick to toss it aside for something else that suited my desires more, but those reasons would be not for more electronic features; it would be for a smaller more attractive design without all the stupid dimples.
I always wonder why (insert Chinese mod name here), vs the USA. Why not a thread about this Chinese mod vs, this Chinese mod. or that Chinese mod. Then it might be fair.
because subconsciously they know whos sitting on the throne.
(puts on flame proof jacket)
anyways............. for that kind of money i need to see some backing, i dont have a problem spending it if the company will stand behind it, or will it become a flash in the pan until something else catches their fancy?
Last edited:
The problem with the provari fanboy mentality is that it makes it that much less likely that other, often better products will be popular enough to give a company enough financial stability to be able to provide the kind of track record provape has. They were an early entrant into the high end market and profited handsomely on that. Today it gives them a large competitive advantage even without the fanboys doing their thing.
Many if not most smaller innovative mod companies go away not because something else "caught their fancy" but because they were not financially viable. That's how rare mods become rare mods.
Many if not most smaller innovative mod companies go away not because something else "caught their fancy" but because they were not financially viable. That's how rare mods become rare mods.
yea, and the problem with trolls is they just dont know when to shut up even when they are clueless.
this company cant even make a decent tank. for 70 bucks and im supposed to pop 250 on them?
you dont like provari, you will never own one, you just REFUSE to even try to understand - WE GET IT, give it a break already post after post. your quickly wearing out your welcome in this community, debate is one thing trolling constant hate is another.
hop on your schwinn and head on home moms calling you.....................................
Last edited:
I think a strong argument could be made that Provari's success is mostly to this forum. And that every time someone starts a thread about a Provari killer or Provari vs this or that, it imprints in more people's minds that Provari is the pinnacle of the industry whose standards everyone else is trying to match. Ironically most of the people helping Provape in this way are the very people who are trying argue against them by starting these comparison threads.
Edit: I want to make clear I am talking about the PERCEPTION that Provari is the pinnacle and that I'm not trying to assert a believe that this is actually true.
Edit: I want to make clear I am talking about the PERCEPTION that Provari is the pinnacle and that I'm not trying to assert a believe that this is actually true.
Last edited:
Like all fanboyism, it's the prozelytizing and lack of objectivity. In reality the provari is one of many good mods to consider, but provari fans tend to elevate it further above others than reality warrants.
To be fair, people fanboy other mods too.
I can't argue with that.
Not sure why, but people seem to just Love to Hate some things in the E-Cig World.
BTW - Have you seen this thread?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/evic/436975-sick-fanboyism.html
Meh after getting my reo grande I haven't touched my provari. It makes a great meter for when I rebuild my atomizer though. The mech itself it's the end all, for me the juice delivery of the bottom feeder has me converted for life.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
Indeed, the mech was the only thing that could make me put mine down. But in the regulated realm, I'm still waiting.......
Sent from my HTC VLE_U using Tapatalk 2
Most rare mods aren't really as rare as people think, some but not all.
Provape fanboys don't stifle innovation, chinese things do. You have people on here who would buy 4 vamos, 2 zmax's and 3 svd's rather than some new $250 thing that hit the market.
The provari people are buying dna20's and new nice mechs...more so than the sigelei 19 and vamo crowd.
Wow fun read 
I will admit I haven't read all the post, so if something has been beaten like a dead horse I'm sorry.
I will start by saying I'm a big Evolv fan, not a fanboy or hater on anything though.
I can't comment on the cyborg as I have never used one, but I have several DNA20's.
The biggest reasons I never went with a Provari is cost and single button. I was just getting serious into vaping when the kick first came out. I already had a tube mod, so it seemed like a no brainer. I used the kick for a long long time, trying other mods along the way. I even bought a zmax on a whim, never really used it and finally gave it away. (It took two try's)
For me the DNA20 wins hands down, it produces the best vape for me that I found, just crisp clean power. Extremely versatile, I regularly switch from a low wattage setting with carto tank to a rba and high wattage setting, plus it can handle coils down to 0.5 ohm.
If your a Provari fan I would try giving a DNA20 mod a good honest try, I doubt you will be disappointed.
Since I'm a DIY'er and general tinkerer I would probably never buy either a Provari or Cyborg. I dislike very much navigating menus with a single button, but if you don't tinker much and just use it, then it's probably not going to bother you. The DNA20 itself is $50 and available for purchase to anyone. I love all the info on the screen and the versatility and performance is unmatched IMHO.
I thinks it's fair to say that Evolvs customer service is every bit as good as Provape....as for the people making the cyborg I have no clue.
The last thing that does drive me absolutely mad is when some says they have tried a zmax or vamo or even the evic and didn't like it, so why spend the money on the DNA mod that does the same thing. This isn't true at all!!! The DNA is playing at a different level than pretty much every other so claimed VW devise out there.
In the end each to their own. Provape has built a great company and good name for a reason, and I don't look down on anybody vaping anything that keeps them away from analogs.
I will admit I haven't read all the post, so if something has been beaten like a dead horse I'm sorry.
I will start by saying I'm a big Evolv fan, not a fanboy or hater on anything though.
I can't comment on the cyborg as I have never used one, but I have several DNA20's.
The biggest reasons I never went with a Provari is cost and single button. I was just getting serious into vaping when the kick first came out. I already had a tube mod, so it seemed like a no brainer. I used the kick for a long long time, trying other mods along the way. I even bought a zmax on a whim, never really used it and finally gave it away. (It took two try's
)For me the DNA20 wins hands down, it produces the best vape for me that I found, just crisp clean power. Extremely versatile, I regularly switch from a low wattage setting with carto tank to a rba and high wattage setting, plus it can handle coils down to 0.5 ohm.
If your a Provari fan I would try giving a DNA20 mod a good honest try, I doubt you will be disappointed.
Since I'm a DIY'er and general tinkerer I would probably never buy either a Provari or Cyborg. I dislike very much navigating menus with a single button, but if you don't tinker much and just use it, then it's probably not going to bother you. The DNA20 itself is $50 and available for purchase to anyone. I love all the info on the screen and the versatility and performance is unmatched IMHO.
I thinks it's fair to say that Evolvs customer service is every bit as good as Provape....as for the people making the cyborg I have no clue.
The last thing that does drive me absolutely mad is when some says they have tried a zmax or vamo or even the evic and didn't like it, so why spend the money on the DNA mod that does the same thing. This isn't true at all!!! The DNA is playing at a different level than pretty much every other so claimed VW devise out there.
In the end each to their own. Provape has built a great company and good name for a reason, and I don't look down on anybody vaping anything that keeps them away from analogs.
Last edited:
Wow fun read
I will admit I haven't read all the post, so if something has been beaten like a dead horse I'm sorry.
I will start by saying I'm a big Evolv fan, not a fanboy or hater on anything though.
I can't comment on the cyborg as I have never used one, but I have several DNA20's.
The biggest reasons I never went with a Provari is cost and single button. I was just getting serious into vaping when the kick first came out. I already had a tube mod, so it seemed like a no brainer. I used the kick for a long long time, trying other mods along the way. I even bought a zmax on a whim, never really used it and finally gave it away. (It took two try's
For me the DNA20 wins hands down, it produces the best vape for me that I found, just crisp clean power. Extremely versatile, I regularly switch from a low wattage setting with carto tank to a rba and high wattage setting, plus it can handle coils down to 0.5 ohm.
If your a Provari fan I would try giving a DNA20 mod a good honest try, I doubt you will be disappointed.
Since I'm a DIY'er and general tinkerer I would probably never buy either a Provari or Cyborg. I dislike very much navigating menus with a single button, but if you don't tinker much and just use it, then it's probably not going to bother you. The DNA20 itself is $50 and available for purchase to anyone. I love all the info on the screen and the versatility and performance is unmatched IMHO.
I thinks it's fair to say that Evolvs customer service is every bit as good as Provape....as for the people making the cyborg I have no clue.
The last thing that does drive me absolutely mad is when some says they have tried a zmax or vamo or even the evic and didn't like it, so why spend the money on the DNA mod that does the same thing. This isn't true at all!!! The DNA is playing at a different level than pretty much every other so claimed VW devise out there.
In the end each to their own. Provape has built a great company and good name for a reason, and I don't look down on anybody vaping anything that keeps them away from analogs.
I would have to agree with you about the DNA20. I'm a ProVari owner who purchased a ManCaveMod DNA20 earlier this year, and it really does perform very well. The only thing about the DNA20 that doesn't measure up to the ProVari is the efficiency of the circuit, and I get about 25% more battery life out of the ProVari using the same AW 2000mAh batteries. I'll be getting the Panasonic NCR18650PD batteries for the MCM soon so I can get equivalent life span between charges on both devices.
All in all, I'm very impressed with the DNA20 and the ProVari and they both work equally well at what they do.
- Status
Similar threads
