Do you own at least 3 devices?

[bearscreek]

Another vote for the Buzz if only allowed 1 device. It's not really all that big, but it all depends on what you can deal with. It's certainly bigger than a standard 510, and holding it and using it is nothing like regular smoking or using a standard 510 or other e-cig. The thing is, though, that it's everything rolled up into one. You set it how you want it.

If you can't deal with the size, then my 2nd choice (which I'll grab for a trip to the store or for yard work) would be the eGo. It's great with a low-resistance atty.

 

[bearscreek]

One part of the reason for the warmth of the LR atty is that you're ending up with more power, wattage, which takes you closer to the same thing as using a higher voltage battery with a standard atty. It's like having 6 of one and half a dozen of the other, if you can go with that thought.

 

[VaporMadness]

OK, guys, this is all "greek" to me! LOL!

They're referring to how the voltage output of the eGo/Riva is actually less than 3.7v which is the standard output of li-ion batteries used in mods. The eGo/Riva contains circuitry which regulates the output down to 3.2'ish volts. Most stock ecig batts do this to with the exception of the KR808 battery (Scottbee posted a whole bunch about that sometime ago). Lower voltage translates to lower power given the same atomizer, but LR attys, which draw more current, result in increased power since P_ower = V_olts x I_current. See the Power Calculator page for details.

There is another eGo'like device that provides the full 3.7v output. The VGO...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/105488-v-go.html
http://www.royalsmokers.com/V-GO.html

 

[Dubs58]

Kristen, the "Cone" on the eGo IMO serves two purposes. 1 To give it warmth (notice how attys get warm?) it seems to hold the heat in around the atty for a warm hit. 2 When you drip, it catches the juice (inside) from running down the outside of the battery, when you take the cone off better have a paper towel handy. lol

Good Luck with your decision !

 

[Kent C]

Kent! Holy cow I haven't seen you in forever!

Thanks for the input - I think I'm going to have to re-read your post several times before it actually makes sense to me, though. This is like learning a foreign language! LOL!

All of those "mega" names worry me - how long/wide do they all get?

From what I could get from your post on the first read - you'd recommend an Ego XL battery with mega atty/carts?

What exactly do those "cones" accomplish anyhow? LOL!

Hi Kristen,

Actually, since I don't really have the need for something over say 6 hours, I prefer the smaller 650mAh batts and as you see in the picture, with the mega eGo atty and cart, it's not that much longer than the regular 510 atty, but much more time in between refills! But IF you have the need for longer batt time I'd suggest the 900mAh that is again, only 13mm longer. The 1000mAh batt (TW carries it) is a full inch longer and only another hour than the 900mAh. And it starts to feel like a large tube mod - Chuck like - with the mega eGo atty...

Yeah on the 'mega' name. TW first introduced the 510 mega atty for the 510 and it is the same diameter as the 510 batt, only longer than the regular atty:

The mega eGo attys are as wide as the eGo batt. See the picture above again.

As far as the cone goes, I like Scottbee's take. Read over his two back to back posts:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/70038-janty-ego-tip-better-vapor.html#post1036681

So... the airflow goes through the top of the cone - and since the 510 cartomizers are a bit bigger in diameter, that extra diameter makes the cones fit really tight cutting off the airflow - so if you go that way - get two cones and ream one out for cartomizers. I have all going - LR attys, LR cartomizers, mega eGo atty but I take the last one if I'm going out and about.

 

[Richie G]

I have to admit something here, Kristin -- it's kind of fun watching you get confused. LOL

There was a time long ago in a galaxy far far away when you didn't know a thing about 510 cartridges and fillers either, though. Then you became an innovator on stuffing those things, so I'm sure you'll be a mod guru soon. =)

I just read through the thread, specifically your responses, and it seems to me that size matters -- who knew? I think if you want a perspective of real sizes in your hand as opposed to pics and vids, an accurate *in house* prop for the standard eGo would be the AA battery. The colored portion of the eGo battery is nearly identical to any AA you have laying around. Add about 5/8" for the connector/switch portion. It's actually very comfortable and the added weight as opposed to a standard 510 battery feels natural in a matter of minutes.

They come in a myriad of colors too which would look elegant/impressive coming out of one of your lovely cases.

 

[Kent C]

Kristen,

If you decide to go the eGo way and want to try the mega eGo cartomizer, check out these two tips:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...tem-808-dpv9-smoke51-etc-143.html#post1588415

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...tem-808-dpv9-smoke51-etc-156.html#post1611596

No need to get into that now, save this out for later. And again, the mega eGo atty and carts are better imo - more expensive though....

 

[VaporMadness]

I just read through the thread, specifically your responses, and it seems to me that size matters -- who knew? I think if you want a perspective of real sizes in your hand as opposed to pics and vids, an accurate *in house* prop for the standard eGo would be the AA battery.

This post contains pics with a mind boggling number of mods side by side.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-side-comparison-e-cigs-mods.html#post1167942

The eGo is not in the BIG line up, but it is in a smaller shot next to bettie boop and others that are in the BIG picture. The eGo is pretty close in size the the Chameleon (which I use). A roll of pennies is a close approximation to the size of these small'ish devices.

 

[candy_93454]

I must add my 2 cents I love my hello 016. for so many reasons i vape alot but have never had a battery run dead on me while im on the go as i always am lol... Not i charge it every two days or so when i remember to plug it in lol. The vapor put out by this is awesome!

 

[BiffRocko]

So LR attys work on the Ego - I thnk I remember reading that. I got an LR atty as an extra in an order and tried it on my 510 - I LOVED the vapor - it was PLUMES and it was actually WARM. But I was wondering if it was warm because I was using it incorrectly (not supposed to use on a 510) with a drip tip or if that is a natural effect even on an Ego? I thought that was so cool (warm vapor!) I didn't think it was the drip tip, because I now us that occasionally on my 510 with a regular atty and the vapor isn't warm.

You weren't doing anything wrong. This is what happens when you vape at a higher wattage (more power). When people talk about vaping at higher voltage, what they're really talking about is vaping at higher wattage. Basically, higher wattage means more and hotter vapor.

You may not care to know the specifics, but to really understanding what's happening requires a bit of knowledge about electronics theory. Wattage is a measurement of power. The formula to calculate wattage is wattage = voltage squared / resistance.

Standard 510 attys typically run between 2.5-3 ohms of resistance. So, if you use a standard atty on a 3.2V battery (eg. 510 or eGo) the power output is roughly 3.7 watts. (3.2v * 3.2v / 2.75 ohms)

Low resistance attys are usually around 1.5 ohms. Doing that math on that tells us we get 6.8 watts, or nearly double the power. (3.2 * 3.2 / 1.5 )

Using a high voltage mod yields even more power. A 5v mod with a standard 510 atty outputs about 9.1 watts. With an LR atty it's about 16.7 watts.

Knowing how this works means you can really dial in exactly the amount of power you want, especially if you have a variable voltage mod like The Buzz.

 

[VaporMadness]

Good explanation BiffRocko

 

[leannebug]

I' own most of the basic styles and models (generic and name) and about 10 mods.

If you own the 510, I would suggest an EGO with a 306 atty. The reason is this: the Ego and the 306 are compatible with all your 510 parts w/o needing any adapters (adapters are great, but I sometimes find that something is lost along the way). The Ego will also give you the longer battery life and a boost in the voltage (2 reasons that people use the mods). The 306 atty will give you an alternative vaping experience (from the 510). It's hardier than the 510, gives you a different "taste" (as the 510, 801, 808, and 901 are slightly differently tasting) and you can use it to dip or drip (w/driptip). Or you can use a 510 carto on the Ego. That's very nice too. AND you can use the LR atty to 'mimic' the 5v mods. But best of all, the Ego is pretty affordable now (much more than mods) and for that price you can get the some of the same benefits, and see if owning a 'higher tech mod' is for you.

Whatever you buy, you may like, you may not, there is no one right answer.. the good thing is that you can always sell it in the classifieds! Mods go quicker than anything else

 

[mrjaguar]

kr808d-1 standard battery
xhaler
copper
buzz

the buzz is my favorite by far.

 

[portguy]

I have 901, 510, KR, 801, eGo, M401 and some that are not worth mentioning.

I have 3 mods: SD MKI, GGTS, and the Buzz.

By far the best is the Buzz but i found that pretty much all my good PV's have their place and right time to use.

 

[Nyxie]

Very helpful - thanks!!

Which is smaller - the Indulgence or the Ego?

The ego is smaller.

 

[rosesense]

Kristin, to answer about which is my fav, I like them all for different reasons but I love the Iken lazers, they hit about like the Ego but cheaper to buy replacement batts for them so in the long run, they are much less expensive.

After reading your questions, I think you would be happiest with the Lazer, Ego or Riva type. It is my fav for out and about and you can gradually move into 6v vaping later.

Let us know which you choose.

 

[the86d]

Chuck @ 3.7 until recently, and AFTER I received my Prodigy V2 (now x2 + extra parts and like 7 sets of Tenergys rotating), 510s galore (most given away now), 901s, and KR808D-1 w/ extended batteries.

I usually use my Prodigy V2s all the time with (V4L) KR808D-1 Cartos @ 6 volts.

The Chuck I dropped 2x and had to send back for repair 2x as it has the innate ability to land on the button EVERY TIME it lands. The 510s, 901s, and the extended batteries on the KR808D-1s only 3.7v, so I don't enjoy the warm-up time anymore.

 

[cdmcfud]

Buy a REO and stop the worry about carto's or dripping, juice in the mouth, changing small batteries, and carting extra juice around.

 

[the86d]

I can go a day and a half with batteries, and no charging, just a battery swap after that. I always have fresh batteries, and fresh flavors with a quick carto-swap.

I am hard on devices and I have broken plastic mods, and keep my mods in my slacks pocket when walking around (as I work in IT so I have a lot going on and would break wood too). I am an American, and need a "Full Metal Jacket" and the Prodigy V2 is only about the size of a Marks-A-Lot marker even with a carto attached, way more convenient and small.

No need for a Passthrough, it lasts a day and a half of HEAVY vaping! New batteries (if I EVER have to replace them [not yet] are about $5 for a set...)

 

[Caddyman]

i have a genuine ego, a trex set, and a rn4081 set.

i use the trex and egos daily....lr atties are a must imo. i use a pt at work