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I vape more often than I smoked, but I was able to finish off two PAD lights and ultra lights before I started vaping. I'd leave my cigs on the kitchen counter to limit the availability when I watched TV or was busy doing something. If I did that with my vape I'd probably vape less, but I don't worry about the long term effects of vaping like I did with cigs.
Even vaping constantly I only go through about 8ml of 3mg/ml unflavored juice a day. That's about 24mg of nic and only part of that is absorbed by the body.
The article below states that the average smoker absorbs about 1mg of nic from the average cigarette. So, in terms of nic I'm probably getting much less nic from my vape.
How Much Nicotine Is in a Cigarette and a Pack?
Even vaping constantly I only go through about 8ml of 3mg/ml unflavored juice a day. That's about 24mg of nic and only part of that is absorbed by the body.
The article below states that the average smoker absorbs about 1mg of nic from the average cigarette. So, in terms of nic I'm probably getting much less nic from my vape.
How Much Nicotine Is in a Cigarette and a Pack?
I smoked between 2-3 PAD and seemed to have to light one up right after I put one out. For a while I was vaping like that going through about 20-30 mils a day with my mod always in my hand. After a few years, upped my nicotine level back to 18mg, and now vaping between 2-4 mils a day. Guess I'd say I used to vape as much as I smoked but now, not so much.
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I have some of the same concerns. I've been trying to inhale less and cut down on the amount of flavorings I use. On the other hand it's been going on for a decade now under massive scrutiny and the number of legitimate reported medical consequences stands at zero as far as I know, so the negatives are likely to be minor, and / or rare. Plus if nicotine has any anti-Alzheimer's effect at all the balance would be positive to me.
I question the addiction part of your comments. A lot of long term vapers including me report ongoing reduction in vaping and nicotine use. Quite a few get bored with it in the end and stop vaping. Smokers don't tend to start out chain smoking and slowly reduce the number of cigs they smoke per day. That's not how addictions normally work.
I have some of the same concerns. I've been trying to inhale less and cut down on the amount of flavorings I use. On the other hand it's been going on for a decade now under massive scrutiny and the number of legitimate reported medical consequences stands at zero as far as I know, so the negatives are likely to be minor, and / or rare. Plus if nicotine has any anti-Alzheimer's effect at all the balance would be positive to me.
I question the addiction part of your comments. A lot of long term vapers including me report ongoing reduction in vaping and nicotine use. Quite a few get bored with it in the end and stop vaping. Smokers don't tend to start out chain smoking and slowly reduce the number of cigs they smoke per day. That's not how addictions normally work.
I'm with you on this Divrr. It's funny the responses you get when you say you doubt it's beneficial, and it happens every time. I mean, you didn't even really say it had a negative effect at first- just that you doubted it was good for you. Whenever someone says that it's likely "not good" for you so many replies seem to always focus on how much better people feel vaping than smoking (not the point), and they they don't want to be told what to do (again, not the point). That they'll continue vaping , resenting that you say that . Then the demands for proof.
They definitively proved coffee was bad for you. Then good. Then bad again. Then maybe some good, but some bad with it. Same with eggs. There will never be definitive proof that everyone will accept. Hell, I'm sure there are even smokers out there that will say smoking isn't bad, because they've suffered no ill effects. Me - I just figure that if it were optimum for us to be inhaling 3, 5, 10, 30 ml of pg/vg per day, it'd already be put in the atmosphere by our Creator. But I am NOT telling anyone not to vape. Or saying I know for a fact it's bad for you. I vape. I'm glad I vape instead of smoking. I'm glad millions of others do the same. I'm not preaching that vaping is bad for you. I'm not even telling anyone that they're wrong if they believe it's harmless. I'm just making a reasonable assumption, and stating that opinion doesn't threaten or challenge anyone.
Definitely not an addiction like ...... or even cigs for sure. When I smoked, if I ran out late at night, I was out the door to buy a pack. (man I dont miss that) vaping , when you look at it doesnt seem like one, seems more like just another electronic device where you can taste great flavors and such. It doesnt seem as bad if I say I'm addicted to vaping, but that term addiction, does sound aweful. Perhaps the real term really means illegal stuff, so perhaps your right, but I tend to think its one....
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How come they can tell us exactly what is in tobacco smoke, give an approximation of the levels and the sort of damage it does but they cant measure what is in vapour?If you DIY your juice you know more about it than we know about what's in a cigarette.
The can measure air quality in a home kitchen or on a city street.
I think in the future , if when the government is controlling all vaping it will
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Tobacco smoke has been studied extensively for at least half a century now, by governments, by tobacco companies, and independently. Vaping has only been a thing for about 10-12 years, and only took off in a big way about 5-6 years ago.
As Rossum said, time and testing has informed us incrementally. Cigarettes have been analyzed and scrutinized with a number of lab tests over the years, but electronic cigarettes are still relatively new compared to tobacco cigarettes.
Web MD article about what's in an e-cigarette. High wattage, high temps, and flavorings can change what's in the vape. It's best to keep the airflow up and the temperature down. Temperature control mode is a good way to do that.
What’s in Your E-Cigarette?
I cant see that being a thing standing in the way of running reasonable and accurate tests. If they can measure air quality in a kitchen, exhaust emissions, cigarette smoke and list with accuracy, then the technology is there already to measure what vapers are inhaling. No need to to spend half a century procrastinating, we have the technology. Wouldnt take more than a week or two to produce the data at any modern lab, depending on their work load.
I cant imagine it even being an expensive or difficult exercise in 2019.
If your ecig is producing Acrolein you will stop and find out why. It tastes nasty and burnt. It's not something you'd want in your lungs. Acrolein starts to form at 536F. We wouldn't vape that high on purpose.
Below is a generalized test result from a testing lab said to be used by juice manufacturers.
https://www.avomeen.com/lifesciences-e-juice-e-liquid-product-testing-analysis-safety-information/
Acrolein has been detected in ecigs, but that only occurs at higher temps, far hotter than people generally like to vape. Keep your vape cool and Acrolein doesn't form, according to the testing labs. Acrolein can cause "Popcorn Lung". Popcorn Lung first arose among people working in popcorn factories where people inhaled the vapors from huge popcorn poppers that produced temps high enough to cause buttery flavorings to emit Acrolein.
Glycerine vapor and acrolein - the issues
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WebMD is owned by an investment company. Not a great place to research health or science.
I always thought Web MD was sponsored by cancer. No matter what set of symptoms you put in there it always says "cancer."
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