Does vaping at a low wattage offer the same benefit as temp control?

[HigherStateD]

There's certainly some truth to that. I recently got a proper battery analyzer in order to explore some battery-related questions that I've not been able to find good answers to. Based on the discharge curves I'm seeing, I'm generally only using the top 1/3 of the capacity of my cells. That's OK though because I only swap batteries in my ADV mod once a day, and less frequently than that in all my other mods.

I do the same, if using a mech. I get down to about 3.65 resting voltage, at the lowest. point on the other hand, if using my topside, I run them down to about 3.45. after that, because of drop, low voltage protections start to cut power to the coil, dropping into a kind of bypass mode untill cut off voltage.

 

[DPLongo22]

That last time I was not fully satisfied with my vape was just after 12:00 ET, Saturday, May 11th, 2012.

That was when my mailman delivered my very first Provari, and I jumped from cigalikes, Go-Go's, and a voltage-limiting Lavatube (shoot me!) that did nothing but drive me crazy.

Very quickly, I learned that my "sweet spot" (a popular reference at the time) was around 11w, and I've been vaping pretty much the same way since. This many years later, every vape still satisfies. The atties have changed, and a "few" mods have been added, but it's all just variations from that fateful day, so many moons ago.

If that (satisfaction) ever changes, I guess I may look to something different.

Technically, I expect that makes me a very UN-seasoned vaper, since I haven't changed a lick in however dayum long it's been. Hold the salt & pepper, thanks very much.

 

[HigherStateD]

Yes, some boards will increase voltage as the coil increases in resistance to maintain a fixed wattage. Really, that would just be doing its job in VW mode.

For example, on this DNA, notice as the live ohms increased - so did the voltage, but the watts remained stable. Cold ohms started at 0.16 and ended at 0.291, voltage started at 3.21 and ended at 3.61

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huh. So in theory, while VW can offer some of the benefits of TC, and maybe some that TC doesn't have, but VV with a TCR coil might offer more, depending on how the maths on coil mass vs the resistance changes?

 

[mikepetro]

huh. So in theory, while VW can offer some of the benefits of TC, and maybe some that TC doesn't have, but VV with a TCR coil might offer more, depending on how the maths on coil mass vs the resistance changes?

I guess it depends on what you want. With VV and a High TCR it would be kind of like preheat or boost in that the hit would start out strong and get milder as the live resistance increased.

 

[Electrodave]

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Very quickly, I learned that my "sweet spot" (a popular reference at the time) was around 11w, and I've been vaping pretty much the same way since.

11W! I would never have guessed that you were some kinda crazy cloud chaser. Single digits for me.

 

[stols001]

Man, whenever @mikepetro shows up I'm like "DAD!"

LOL Mike P it's not your looks or anything, I think my dad is like, 77 or whatever. It's more like: "Science. Here he comes, spewing Science." And then like, I would have to try and understand and even perhaps formulate an intelligent question or two. I mean, I was always getting like given summer internships at the NIH that he arranged NOT because I was super into GENETICS but I kind of enjoyed the PROCESS. Pipetting? (this was before my fine motor tremor) Count me IN! That thick plastic stuff you wrap around like bottles and stuff that stretches? It also SMELLS so good! I will play around in a lab for as long as you will let me, but expect me to have a fairly hazy grasp. I mean, biology that's not even that much math (well, a fair amount.)

That is how I wound up working for a genetics place after college gene sequencing. My gene sequencing was like, a thing of beauty. I mean. it was like. I was the best they HAD. We had gene sequencing machines but I was like a machine. They wanted to pay for me to go get my master's in biology and I was like. "Uh that sounds hard I'm just fooling around with acrylamide gels here."

Fortunately my pregnancy like happened and I cleaned houses for a long time and got my Master's in SW which frankly (even though I went to a top ten school) has got to be the easiest Master's Degree of all time. It was just all people stuff and I was like, I get people.

But yep. Dad. ONLY WITH MORE MATH THAT IS UNFAIR.

Anna

 

[DPLongo22]

11W! I would never have guessed that you were some kinda crazy cloud chaser. Single digits for me.

That's me. TOTALLY wild.

 

[MyMagicMist]

But it would be Hard to go back to a Mech after having used a Regulated Mod.

VW is (to me) like a 46" LED Flat Screen. Whereas a Mech is kinda like a 21" Tube TV.

I would find it harder at this point to return to using regulated mods simply because of the RITID mode mentality.

But my knowledge, or lack of, automobiles does not prevent me from appreciating the value they bring, despite their complexity.

I've used regulated devices before. I come to mechs because I wanted more simplicity, a possible ability to fix problems if they arose.

I just thought it was comical making such a statement of a regulated device due to its complexity was made on a computer that is soooo much more complex.

I can see the humor you saw & agree it is a bit funny.

But I also enjoy a regulated device that allows a level of detail and control that is not offered with a mech. I want to vape my preferred mesh coil that is 0.13 ohms at 50 watts. I can do so. There is a compromise – trade simplicity for a level of detail. Guess such compromises need to be of value to an individual.

Exactly and since I don't vape using your preferred 0.13 mesh coil, guess I'm alright using a .40 SSL316 on a mech. I could use that same coil on most of these new modern temperature controlled mods too. I could use a .40 Kanthal A1 coil on any VV/VW mod too. I don't see any problem with doing so If I chose to do so.

The point being it's vaping and we all are free to choose as we desire. What is right for me is the right way I vape. What's right for you is the way that's right for you.

 

[DPLongo22]

The point being it's vaping and we all are free to choose as we desire. What is right for me is the right way I vape. What's right for you is the way that's right for you.

^ This ^

We are SO fortunate...

Years from now, when everything vape looks, acts, feels, and tastes like {X}, we'll think, "They have NO idea what the world missed out on."

 

[CMD-Ky]

^ This ^

We are SO fortunate...

Years from now, when everything vape looks, acts, feels, and tastes like {X}, we'll think, "They have NO idea what the world missed out on."

If you take the word 'vape' out of your post then your post will (sadly) be universally true.

 

[damachine]

I think aside from wattage, another BIG factor is how wet the wick is when you fire. I always tend to keep my wick drenched (like saturated) each time I fire so I think I'm pretty safe at 12 W. I don't chain vape.

Having said that, I do want to give TC another try, and I plan on splurging on a DNA mod. But I'm a bottom feeder though. Any good recommendation?

BTW, I got some 316L 24g SS wires left over and I might vary my build a little bit. I keep on hearing that you have the space the coils apart for temp control, maybe I didn't do it before.

thanks

 

[DaveP]

I think aside from wattage, another BIG factor is how wet the wick is when you fire. I always tend to keep my wick drenched (like saturated) each time I fire so I think I'm pretty safe at 12 W. I don't chain vape.

Having said that, I do want to give TC another try, and I plan on splurging on a DNA mod. But I'm a bottom feeder though. Any good recommendation?

BTW, I got some 316L 24g SS wires left over and I might vary my build a little bit. I keep on hearing that you have the space the coils apart for temp control, maybe I didn't do it before.

thanks

Yep, if the wick's too wet or too dry, the vape suffers. You get juice in the mouth or dry hits. 12W is a good place to be for emulating the experience of smoking a cigarette.

Temp control does require coil spacing, but it doesn't have to be wide. Once you wind the coil, stretch it out to double length and compress it back until the coils touch before installing it on the deck. There will be a small amount of springiness in the coil that leaves the coils close, but not touching.

TC mode is good, but wattage in power mode is about the same as far as the vape is concerned. TC mode does give you more battery life because it pulses and controls voltage to the coil more accurately and prevents wick burning because it never goes above the controlled heat range. TC mode is more about regulating temperature, so the coil voltage can be pulsed to maintain the temp setting instead of always on. Some say that battery charge life is as much as one and a half times longer in TC mode. That's another benefit over power mode.