doesn't live up to the hype......

[jwark]

I don't steep HHV juices I buy and I think they are great. Heavenly army has the best throat hit I've found without having to go the peppermint/cinnamon route (can't stand peppermint).

This whole thing is ridiculous though, the awards were based off the public vote. Not sure what the argument is here. We should give the reward based off what one person who doesn't like HHV says?

 

[Transient]

Which W2V juices have you tried? For real tobacco flavor, I'd put W2V Signature blends over Halo any day of the week. That's not a knock on Halo. I like its juices and agree that they're quality, but I wouldn't recommend them to a tobacco fan.

Trollololololololololololololol before the lock.

As for the Want2Vape stuff, I've only tried Morley, Blonde (which is spot on for an Acid blondie, my favorite cigar), Louisville, and RY4. They were good, but none were any more or less "knock your socks off" than any Halo liquid I've had besides Longhorn, which after trying hundreds of juices is still one of my go-to's. haha I don't know why I love it so.

 

[Mad Scientist]

so i've been on a bit of a ejuice quest. i have been ordering from many vendors, trying to find my favorite ejuice.

well, i'm kinda dissapointed with heather's heavenly vapes.......they aren't "bad" by any means. i'm just not sure what all the fuss is about.

i had high hopes because they won "best overall vendor" of 2012 and were 3rd for "best juice" (on this forum)
they are also the #2 pick from this thread http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ussion/304212-top-5-vendors-e-liquid-260.html

they are ok imho, but i don't think HHV lived up to the hype at all.

in case you are curious. i have tried about 15 different vendors, and as of right now........i think Halo and copper creek are the best, by far.

just my 2 cents.

I agree with what you're saying. Sometimes the emperor has no clothes. Seems too often anything "factory" or lab made gets panned and anything "organic" made, i guess, by bunnies and kittens between their cute little naps quickly becomes ambrosia. What the stuff actually tastes like and how it performs remains mostly mystery in a lot of the gushing reviews.

 

[Robino1]

The polls and opinions are individual tastes all added up. It is there for fun and information. We all have passions for what we personally find that knock our socks off. Be it eliquid or the hardware we use to vape that liquid. As you could see, there are a ton of people that like HHV enough to vote for them. Are they all wrong? I'm pretty sure that those votes weren't planted to skew the results. You may personally not like or were disappointed in HHV, but that does not negate what those votes represent.

This year when they run the 'Best Of' thread again, you too will have the chance of placing your vote for your favorite liquid. It will be counted as is everyone's. You will find that there will always be new juices/vendors that capture the attention of vapers. Some of the popular ones will fall by the wayside while some will continue to have a following. It just happens that some have a majority that love their wares. It is only a guideline not to be taken as the absolute fact that you will not be disappointed.

There have been other threads from people that are not as enthused with HHV. But they are few and far between. One pops up about every three months or so. I say that is a pretty good track record. Stating to stay away from HHV is very unfair to those that may like HHV liquids and take your post to heart and never even give them a chance.

Unless a liquid is dangerous to those who vape, I really don't see a need for a warning that a liquid does not work for an individual. Just my 2 cents

 

[Jerms]

Nice Post Robin!

I think the Best Of threads are not only fun for vapers of any experience, but also provide a great reference to newer vapers. The top vendors are popular for a reason. Chances are the juices aren't perfumy or chemical tasting, which is a huge turn-off to most vapers, and a higher percentage will find them at least vapable compared to picking out a random (or cheapest) juice vendor to order from. Of course, doesn't mean everyone will like them so stick with some samples when trying.

There's also a good chance the higher ranked vendors have unique flavors that don't use the same common brands of flavorings most generic vendors use (most don't vote for vendors that make the same juices we've had multiple times before), so the blueberry won't be the exact same thing as the last five blueberry juices someone had and already don't care for.

HHV is one of those vendors that is easy for me to recommend to vapers I know in person who don't participate in online forums, who are often vaping pre-filled cartos from where they bought their e-cig. Almost always, they are WOWed. They are so damn smooth, clean, and unique tasting compared to what they have been vaping. The online community it much more fickle, but with HHV the biggest complaint is often that they are just ok to a person (as what the OP originally reported). Some newer people are under the impression that because so many people love a certain vendor, they for sure will too, and are dissapointed because they turn out not to be the greatest ever for them. Problems not the juices or the people that love them, it's the expectations that are out of whack.

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[Gauntlgrym]

There are a lot of HHV juices that I can't stand, but I know a ton of folks that love all those same juices. Obviously they're just stupid.

another troll....what was the point of this post?? do you ever not troll??

btw for those of you that didn't read it or forget....this was gthompsons first post in this thread:
"There have been lots of popular vendors I didn't like (if we all liked the same juice, we wouldn't need all these vendors), but it never occurred to me to start a thread about it. What's the point?

so he basically just came to a thread and said "this is pointless" and left. nothing constructive, and nothing on topic. just "this is dumb, later".........if that's not a troll, then i dunno what is.

some of you seem to want to act as if i started the bickering (because i'm new here obviously it's my fault). the person that starts the trolling is the problem....just saying.

 

[Robino1]

I agree with GT. He just said it in a different way than what I have. What exactly is the point that you are trying to make with this thread? I'm not trying to be difficult, I am really trying to understand why. Are you warning others that HHV is not what you thought it would be and to stay away from this vendor? I'm seriously trying to get what this is about............

His post that you quoted above was sarcasm. They really need a sarcasm emoticon.............. Just sayin'

 

[Gauntlgrym]

I agree with GT. He just said it in a different way than what I have. What exactly is the point that you are trying to make with this thread? I'm not trying to be difficult, I am really trying to understand why. Are you warning others that HHV is not what you thought it would be and to stay away from this vendor? I'm seriously trying to get what this is about............

His post that you quoted above was sarcasm. They really need a sarcasm emoticon.............. Just sayin'

i already stated my point earlier in this thread, when i answered his first post.
i said:
"the point.....is that i felt like i wasted money on HHV. i heard nothing but great things, and saw how coveted they were on this forum.
so, i'm simply trying to put in my 2 cents, to possibly caution other new buyers.
i was soooooo sure that HHV was gonna be great, i bought 2 sample packs. maybe if i saw a thread like this. i would have used more caution, and only bought 1 and saved some money."

obviously my point wasn't good enough for him, and it went downhill from there.

*and yes you are right is was sarcasm....but it was also trolling*

 

[Robino1]

You are totally entitled to your opinion as we all are. If you look hard enough, ALL vendors will have detractors. There is no vendor out there that has 100% satisfaction.

There will be those that aren't satisfied.

I hope you find one that works for you. Unfortunately, you will be wasting money trying to find that fit. We all have. Welcome to the club.

 

[gthompson]

Does this sound really familiar to anyone else?

 

[Gauntlgrym]

Does this sound really familiar to anyone else?

not sure what you mean by that....but you are familiar.
there are people like you on every forum. people who have been on a forum for awhile, that think they can be rude and troll and derail threads only because they have a high post count.

why are you even still posting on this thread??
i dunno about you, but if i have no interest in a thread, and think it's pointless and/or stupid.....then i just don't post on it. if everyone would just follow that simple rule. then forums would be much more civil.

or do you just not have anything better to do, other than post on a thread you yourself labeled as pointless??

@robino1
thanks, i guess i just never really saw or noticed a negative thread about HHV. i'm sure it's out there though.
......and i think i have already found my liquids of choice halo/copper creek/ave (i think ave DID live up to the hype)

 

[Faylool]

I found two from Mom and Pop buy using the one ml sample site. Ecigarettesamples? Or?? It's a good idea. I got 13 and found two for throat hit at 10 mg nic 50/50 so since I use 18-24 mg nic I'm happy. I have 5 left to try and only one of them is Mom and Pop. Next order will be more Mom and Pop. And I was banking on Virgin Vapors. Throat hit was "somebody's Bliss and Bananas Foster. I was sure I'd be disappointed due to past experiences with a more than a dozen vendors and I DIY now but sometimes you just need inspiration and sometimes an opportunity to treat yourself or just try something different all together.

 

[gthompson]

I'm not trying to troll, or be rude, nor does it have anything to do with HHV. The OP came on here and said he was "warning" people that vendor X did not live up to the hype and should be avoided. It's perfectly okay for you to not like vendor X, but it isn't fair for you to think that no one else should either, nor is it fair for you to make some kind of crusade out of it. There are threads started like this all the time, and I always take up for the vendor, even if I don't like their juice.

There's a reason you see the phrase "taste is subjective" all the time.

 

[Gauntlgrym]

I'm not trying to troll, or be rude, nor does it have anything to do with HHV. The OP came on here and said he was "warning" people that vendor X did not live up to the hype and should be avoided.

i never said it should be avoided or was bad. i only said it didn't live up to the hype, and people should think twice before jumping on the hype wagon (like i did).
also, i stated multiple times that it's not "bad"

It's perfectly okay for you to not like vendor X, but it isn't fair for you to think that no one else should either, nor is it fair for you to make some kind of crusade out of it.

according to you it's not ok.....according to you it's pointless and so is my opinion.
i made a thread simply to state my opinion, and maybe warn others. or maybe even have 10,20,50, or a 100 other people come here and also make statements about HHV. then you trolled, and things got sidetracked.

There are threads started like this all the time, and I always take up for the vendor, even if I don't like their juice.

sticking up for a vendor is one thing. comming in and trolling, and just being like "this is pointless"/thread is dumb/"you are ludicrous" is another. your post should have a point to it. u saying "thread is dumb, i'm out" is pointless.

p.s. thx for actually making a post with content of some kind (not sarcasm)

 

[Bubbajop]

The number of positive reviews far outweigh the negative ones. It would be good if there was some balance.

I got burned by all the positive MBV reviews. I bought 3 30ml bottles at 80PG/20VG 18mg and I don't the overall feel I get and low vapor production of their juice. Now I know better and only buy samples first.

I also just got the Halo tobacco sample pack in 12mg and have tried Prime 15 and Torque 56 so far. Much better quality than MBV in terms of overall feel and vapor production, but I find Prime 15 almost tasteless. Torque 56 tasted like apple cider, not a bad thing, but my actual experience did not match my high expectations after reading the reviews on Halo's web site and this forum.

I was also disappointed with their Mini clearos expecting them to be better than the cartomizers, again based on reviews. I found that they don't produce the same the warm vapor that the cartomizers do while being equal in taste and vapor production.


Here are 3 habits of highly successful vapers:

-Buy samples
-Set your expectations low
-Don't trust the reviews

 

[gthompson]

Well see, that's the thing. No matter how many reviews you read, good or bad, you still won't know if you like a juice or not till you personally try it. So yes, buy samples, always.

 

[PugLady]

so i've been on a bit of a ejuice quest. i have been ordering from many vendors, trying to find my favorite ejuice.

well, i'm kinda dissapointed with heather's heavenly vapes.......they aren't "bad" by any means. i'm just not sure what all the fuss is about.

i had high hopes because they won "best overall vendor" of 2012 and were 3rd for "best juice" (on this forum)
they are also the #2 pick from this thread http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ussion/304212-top-5-vendors-e-liquid-260.html

they are ok imho, but i don't think HHV lived up to the hype at all.

in case you are curious. i have tried about 15 different vendors, and as of right now........i think Halo and copper creek are the best, by far.

just my 2 cents.

Halo also makes my favorite coffee juice Twisted java! Its amazing and the best thing about it is its crystal clear and very high quality juice.. doesn't clog up my cartos or attys.. Two thumbs up for Halo.. Now if I could just find the best vanilla out there I would be in good shape..

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[nicetucu]

I guess if you don't like the juice try and trade it for something else. Or mail it to me lol. Finding the right juice for you is really the battle here. Hardware part is easy....juice very difficult to narrow down a juice without spending a fortune.

Some people don't like Boba's Bounty or Gorilla Juice either.... I have a few places that I need to try, but need to get through some of this juice I already have. I'm not a fan of Backwoods Brew and they have a strong following as well....it's not bad, just ok and very subtle to me. My two cents.

 

[Cyia]

Possibly don't buy so much all at once? From the sound of it you bought a lot right off the bat and I wouldn't recommend that for anyone. I don't care if you have a million to blow. Normally 2-3 or 1 sample pack should be enough when testing the water with new vendors.

The better place for this thread would of been under juice reviews where you gave a review on your disliking ect for what you got, people read it and move on.

Your exact quote of:

i'm simply trying to put in my 2 cents, to possibly caution other new buyers.

and

just my opinion.....but i think 30 days in nonsense. i think this is something that advocates of HHV(and other vendors) say in order to defend a juice they like. why do i think this? because every vendor i order from(that makes to order) i always email them directly, and ask how long i should steep. well heather herself (or at least an employee that answers questions for the website) told me 2-3 weeks should be great.

I think this is where it all started to go down hill. Caution others against what exactly? Buying a ton of juice from a vendor or not understanding the science of steeping? I mean by all means your money and if you want ready made juice buy from Five pawn. It comes steeped and ready that day. Or wait for Miss T's steeped section perhaps.

But if you can't understand that some juices have to go under a chemical change called steeping:
v. steeped, steep·ing, steeps
v.tr.
1. To soak in liquid in order to cleanse, soften, or extract a given property from.
2. To infuse or subject thoroughly to. ** this one would be closest to most juices you order**
3. To make thoroughly wet; saturate.
v.intr.
To undergo a soaking in liquid.
n.
1.
a. The act or process of steeping.
b. The state of being steeped.
2. A liquid, bath, or solution in which something is steeped.

Then by all means, educate your self, find vendors who sell already steeped juices ect or just write a review on why you think HHV didn't live up to your flavor standards and be done with it.

And for the record, I have yet to buy from HHV so my opinion is based on what was said here and forum etiquette.

 

[Robino1]

Possibly don't buy so much all at once? From the sound of it you bought a lot right off the bat and I wouldn't recommend that for anyone. I don't care if you have a million to blow. Normally 2-3 or 1 sample pack should be enough when testing the water with new vendors.

The better place for this thread would of been under juice reviews where you gave a review on your disliking ect for what you got, people read it and move on.

Your exact quote of: and


I think this is where it all started to go down hill. Caution others against what exactly? Buying a ton of juice from a vendor or not understanding the science of steeping? I mean by all means your money and if you want ready made juice buy from Five pawn. It comes steeped and ready that day. Or wait for Miss T's steeped section perhaps.

But if you can't understand that some juices have to go under a chemical change called steeping:
v. steeped, steep·ing, steeps
v.tr.
1. To soak in liquid in order to cleanse, soften, or extract a given property from.
2. To infuse or subject thoroughly to. ** this one would be closest to most juices you order**
3. To make thoroughly wet; saturate.
v.intr.
To undergo a soaking in liquid.
n.
1.
a. The act or process of steeping.
b. The state of being steeped.
2. A liquid, bath, or solution in which something is steeped.

Then by all means, educate your self, find vendors who sell already steeped juices ect or just write a review on why you think HHV didn't live up to your flavor standards and be done with it.

And for the record, I have yet to buy from HHV so my opinion is based on what was said here and forum etiquette.

Bravo! Forum etiquette is certainly called for. You're very correct that this should have gone to the reviews section.

To the OP:

You might benefit from going to the review section of the forum before deciding on the next vendor you wish to try. There is a section for e-liquid reviews. If you need help finding them, just ask.