doing research and getting overwhelmed please help

[TTEOmason108]

i think im starting to get over the minis. and thank you for clearing up the 510 battery thing! finally i understand its just the fitting lol. i think i am going to go with both the regular 510 AND the ego 510. that way i can at least get the style that i was really set on, but then if a realize i need more (which is what just about EVERYONE has realized apparently) ill have the bigger ego battery when i need/want it. i also like that i can do both for just about the same price as the smokelessimage volt that i was originally set on. i think interestingfellow is right about the manual battery thing. I just need to realize that it does have more pros than the autos and its just something im going to have to live with. now i just need to figure out what im going to do with liquid. also ive read alot about the boge 2ohm cartos and they seem to be really good. whats up with the dual cores?

 

[UrbanZexy]

From madvapes, you can order a 510 battery, eGo battery (when they get them back in stock), 510 USB charger, eGo USB charger, 5 pack of cartomizers, one 510 atomizer, a five pack of cartridges, and a 30 ml bottle of menthol tobacco liquid for approximately $63 including shipping. Unless you need a wall adapter to charge in a regular 110 V outlet, that is all you'd need for both performance, and style. Of course, if you want a pack charger too, it will cost you $25 more. You could add the pack charger (PCC), a 110v adapter, and a car adapter (for charging on the go), and still come in just under $100.

I've been stalking ECF for months and I am finally ready to take the plunge. I plan to go with the setup listed above. Thing is, I want to be sure this is enough so I don't run out. How long will this kit last? Should I buy extra liquid? Anything else?

Also, with so much info on so many suppliers, where is the most reliable and best price site to order from?

 

[UrbanZexy]

Well of course now that I thought I had decided and ruled out the Volt, I realize that it doesn't appear possible to hold the Riva like an analog?

I see the many benefits of the Riva, but I am still stuck on wanting it to look and feel in my hand like an analog. Is this going to be so quickly regrettable?

 

[TTEOmason108]

Well of course now that I thought I had decided and ruled out the Volt, I realize that it doesn't appear possible to hold the Riva like an analog?

I see the many benefits of the Riva, but I am still stuck on wanting it to look and feel in my hand like an analog. Is this going to be so quickly regrettable?

this. lol

 

[tierrataz]

Not touching the gear as the typical evolution from 'cig like" seems to be a predominant theme at the start of vaping.

Juice, menthol is pretty spot on IMO to analogs. Here is a killer deal on some premium juice with 2 menthols to choose from. You can search the forums for reviews on Halo. I picked up 4 bottles for what one sells for.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-5-30ml-1-50-5ml-dekang-liquid-1-50-10ml.html

 

[okiedokiesmokie]

I'm a super noob too and have the KR808D-1. I've been more than happy with it, the battery life isn't bad if you always have the usb connector for the charger because you can just pop the uncharged battery onto your computer if you're at work or in the car (and connect it to the car charger built with a usb port) and pretty much run around with an always charged battery. I agree with everyone else that cartos are the way to go initially because it's so easy. If you stick with vaping and you wanna try atty's later, that's cool. I haven't even bothered cause it's so easy and I haven't really had a problem with the flavor I get from the carto's. (Of course that's because I realized if you buy good juice, you'll never have those problems unless the carto's dead) Good luck starting and let us know what you do!!

Incredible juice vendors/favorites across the forum: Kick Bass Vapor, Tasty Vapor, and Ms. T's Bakery... you can't go wrong with any of these. Honeyville Vapor is having a sale on their juice, sample sizes are .39, with a limit of 2 per order. You can grab 2 of each flavor and try them all for under 20 bucks. I placed an order to try them out. Haven't received my shipment yet, so I haven't had a chance to taste them yet though. I just like the prices, it'll at least leave me with an emergency juice stash for when I run out of and am waiting the ones I love.

 

[interestingfellow]

Also, with so much info on so many suppliers, where is the most reliable and best price site to order from?

I'm not trying to be a know it all, cause my ears are barely dry in terms of vaping. That being said: your best bet is to just suck it up, bite the bullet, and get something. You can figure out the rest once you get into it more. The good news is you're already not in a mall kiosk paying out the nose, so you are already ahead of the game.
Just go to E-Liquid and Electronic Cigarette Shop - Category Listings and get yourself a riva kit. Get some boge 2ohms, and save use the carts/atomizers for trying flavors (before you dedicate a cartomizer to a juice you might not like)
Their menthol mix is VERY good if you like menthol cigs, and they carry the 2ohm boge cartomizers. I also like them because there phone and email customer service is awesome, they have a very good selection of quality juices, and they have 10ml perfumer's aprentice concentrates, as well as enough other nic nacs to keep you busy till you know more about what you are doing (and like), and need more than they have.

@Mason:
the doil coil cartomizers.....well, let me start with a basic primer.
You have LR (low resistance @3.7v) vaping and HV (high voltage 6v) vaping. A riva uses 1 cell at 3.7v. You would use 1.5-3ohm atty/cartomizer with this (lower ohms=hotter vape but battery dies quicker). For above 3.7v (HV) you would use 3ohm+ (same vapor, but a known to be a little cooler).
The doil coil cartomizer/atomizer simply has 2 coils in them. For instance, I tried a 1.5ohm dual coil on my riva. It was 2 3ohm coils in paralell, in 1 cartomizer. So each coil ran cooler (@3ohms each) but it drew x2 the power because it was loading the battery with 1.5ohm nominal. This caused my batteries to die about 1/3 quicker than my normal 2ohm cartomizers. Vapor was great, but cooler, and it ran my battery down quicker. I personally like the warmth of an LR atty.

Also, DON"T EVER use an LR atty/cart on a standard/mini battery. It will shorten the lifespan of a smaller battery (<500mah) significantly! (Mason, this means don't use the riva attomizers/cartomizers on the standard 510 batteries, if you get both kits)(or, do it at your own risk)

 

[Gestalt]

If you are still considering the Volt, I've read somewhere that the kit here is the same as the Volt but cheaper:

KR808D Type Smart PCC Starter Kit [Smart WHIT KR808D-1 Starter Kit] - $40.00 | Best Electric Cigarette | Electronic Cigarette

I don't have any personal experience with it, so I can't verify that, but that is what I've read. If you are considering a larger device like the eGo, you should consider the e-power. It is 1050 mAh, has replaceable parts (including the batteries), its 3.7v, and its fairly inexpensive. Once again, I don't have any personal experience with it, but I've heard good things. You can take a look at that here:

E-Power Starter Kit Black 1050mah !! [E-Power Starter Kit] - $45.99 | Best Electric Cigarette | Electronic Cigarette

Edit: You can watch a review of that kr808d system here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYQvONyTl3A

 

[TTEOmason108]

If you are still considering the Volt, I've read somewhere that the kit here is the same as the Volt but cheaper:

KR808D Type Smart PCC Starter Kit [Smart WHIT KR808D-1 Starter Kit] - $40.00 | Best Electric Cigarette | Electronic Cigarette

I don't have any personal experience with it, so I can't verify that, but that is what I've read. If you are considering a larger device like the eGo, you should consider the e-power. It is 1050 mAh, has replaceable parts (including the batteries), its 3.7v, and its fairly inexpensive. Once again, I don't have any personal experience with it, but I've heard good things. You can take a look at that here:

E-Power Starter Kit Black 1050mah !! [E-Power Starter Kit] - $45.99 | Best Electric Cigarette | Electronic Cigarette

Edit: You can watch a review of that kr808d system here: YouTube - ‪Review - KR808D-1 Smart PCC Kit from DigitalCiggz‬‏

youve just wrecked my life... lol! i had a plan! everyone had me so convinced! haha sorry guys but digitalcigz.com kr808d here i come. and yes I KNOW ill out grow it soon enough. but for the same kit that i was so excited about that was $100+ is now only $40. i have to. lol

 

[swedishfish]

Well of course now that I thought I had decided and ruled out the Volt, I realize that it doesn't appear possible to hold the Riva like an analog?

I see the many benefits of the Riva, but I am still stuck on wanting it to look and feel in my hand like an analog. Is this going to be so quickly regrettable?

Mini batteries last about an hour per 100 mah. So if you get a mini with a battery that's a 280 you might get about 3 hours of continous vaping. Batteries also can only be charged a certain amount of times. If your charging these mini batteries 3-4 times a day they have to be replaced more frequently. An ego has a 750 mah battery, lasts about 8 hours. Because the battery is bigger, it isn't charged as much and lasts longer before it needs to be replaced. My ego batteries are 6 months old.


Also, if you purchase automatic batteries, you have to be really careful not to get any juice inside the battery or you'll short it out.

Most people get over the need for something cigarette like quickly. If you don't think you can, get a mini. You may do just fine with it. If you get the Volt the coupon code is heatwave for 23% off.

The ego isn't longer, but wider. More like a sharpie. I don't hold either one like a cigarette because they're both heavier than a cigarette. I hold the mini 510 that I have the same way I hold the ego. But it doesn't have the 'look' of a cig.

There are pros and cons with both. It depends on your lifestyle, how much you smoke, etc. Both are good. Just depends on you. I know it's hard to pick something out on the internet without seeing it or trying it. You won't be unhappy with either one.

I've used an ego for 6 months. I'm getting the echo because it has a 1300 mah battery that lasts a whole day and a cartomizer that holds about 3 ml of juice that'll last me all day. I don't want to change cartos and change batteries and don't care how it looks as long as I'm not smoking cigs.

 

[interestingfellow]

Just hold yer dern horses mason; i'll find you in the next couple days (I have to run to taylors in the morn) and let youtry my riva.

 

[hdnelson2003]

Mason,
Buying a mini e cig just for looks is not entirely a bad thing. But I will have to agree with Swedishfish that you will soon get over that. I first bought a 510 cigarette look a like, and thought that when I bought the more high powered unit that I would use the look a like for going out or at work. (I work at a City Hall and see the Mayor and Chief of Police and Fire Chief etc. everyday.) They all know exactly what my Joker VV with a map tank looks like. I laugh and say I don't care if it looks like a crack pipe, it keeps me off of analogs. I get a thumbs up and a grin from them. Go ahead and start with the mini but don't get frustrated with the lack of power (power, or voltage and battery life have a lot to do with flavor and performance). We all eventually evolve to the right combination for each of us. Just don't give up and go back to analogs.

 

[Gestalt]

Please note that the digitalciggz kit has only ONE battery. You will need to buy another one so that one can charge while the other is used. That is an additional $12. That brings the total up to $52. That would be equivalent to the $65 Volt kit. Its a bit cheaper but not $100 vs $40. The other difference is that the Volt has a 3 month warranty and the digitalciggz has a 14 day.

The difference between the $52 digitalciggz kits (and also the comparable $65 Volt) vs the $100 Volt is that it does not contain extra charging equipment other than the PCC and also does not have a USB pass through. I meant to imply that each individual ecig was equivalent, not that the kits as a whole were necessarily identical.

I hope I'm helping and not just overwhelming you more. Like some people have said, its just a matter of choosing something. In the long run, whatever money you spend on whichever kit you decide, will be money well spent.

 

[interestingfellow]

I'll tell you this when I see you, but you can also go check out Welcome to the New BLOOGPLANET.com - The Future of Smoking - Your One-Stop E-Cigarette Resource. It's an automatice, xlarge cigarette looking (same thickness as a riva), with a good battery life, and VERY decent vapor. It's also $100+ for a decent setup.

 

[UrbanZexy]

Ok, so I decided to go with the Joye 510. Ordering shortly. I hope I do ok with it. At minimum, the parts are compatible with the Riva so if/when I upgrade it will still be useful.

Do you think this kit has all I need to not run out? I'm getting 48 sample bottles from Honeyville so at least that should last me. Should I get more carts or attys? (Afraid of burning/ruining 'em?)

 

[Brewlady]

Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Joye 510

Liberty Flights...click on the link at the top left of the home page to get 20% off. Fast shipping.

 

[tresrottn]

You can do a lot better price-wise for a simple 510 kit, like http://www.vaporjunction.com/
Be aware, the 510 uses atomisers, or you can get the 510 cartomisers, and yes, you will need more to mow through 48 sampler bottles of juice

Ok, so I decided to go with the Joye 510. Ordering shortly. I hope I do ok with it. At minimum, the parts are compatible with the Riva so if/when I upgrade it will still be useful.

Do you think this kit has all I need to not run out? I'm getting 48 sample bottles from Honeyville so at least that should last me. Should I get more carts or attys? (Afraid of burning/ruining 'em?)

 

[interestingfellow]

1 atty/cartomizer is good for about 10ml, no problem. some will be duds, or burnt, and they will last for more than 10ml, but plan on 10ml/ea so you don't run out. Also, switching flavors in an atty, I need to clean them with 151 to get all the old taste out (so when I vape strawberry in an atty I had coco in, I only taste strawberry)
Also, don't jump the gun and get a years supply of atties till you know you love them. I was bent on atties at first, but now find cartomizers a better overall deal. Or your preference for resistance may change too.

Just a thought.

 

[UrbanZexy]

Neither of those links look like a Mega, which is what I am ordering at Route 66. Unless you know of another place w/cheaper pricing on a Joye 510 mega?

 

[UrbanZexy]

1 atty/cartomizer is good for about 10ml, no problem. some will be duds, or burnt, and they will last for more than 10ml, but plan on 10ml/ea so you don't run out. Also, switching flavors in an atty, I need to clean them with 151 to get all the old taste out (so when I vape strawberry in an atty I had coco in, I only taste strawberry)
Also, don't jump the gun and get a years supply of atties till you know you love them. I was bent on atties at first, but now find cartomizers a better overall deal. Or your preference for resistance may change too.

Just a thought.

Awesome advice, thx. Is this (see bold) the general consensus?