Most people are just referring to popping off the top plate on the tank end not really dismantling the whole atty. It can easily be taken off with any fairly sturdy hooked something to pry under the plate with the spike.
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Most people are just referring to popping off the top plate on the tank end not really dismantling the whole atty. It can easily be taken off with any fairly sturdy hooked something to pry under the plate with the spike.
I have even taken some ce2 an cut it and replaced the wicking in the spike. (very hard not reccomended) While I have the spike off i dry burn till I see a glow then extinguish it with a couple drops of atty refresher and it takes the gunk off without completely striping the wick and my VG taste good tor another few tanks
Here's a thread about getting it apart, and replacing the wick, if you care to do so, or need to.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ego-type-models/169520-simplecjs-ego-t-wick-mod.html
I modified my standard tank atomizers to fit on my box mod, I should have taken pictures while I had them apart. I did remove the needle plate from each, and burned the wick off with a propane torch that was handy. None were in bad shape, but I figured while I had it apart, why not?
Now that they're epoxied together, I can't really take them apart to take pictures, but if (when) I modify one of the LR atomizers, I'll be sure to take pictures.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ego-type-models/169520-simplecjs-ego-t-wick-mod.html
I modified my standard tank atomizers to fit on my box mod, I should have taken pictures while I had them apart. I did remove the needle plate from each, and burned the wick off with a propane torch that was handy. None were in bad shape, but I figured while I had it apart, why not?
Now that they're epoxied together, I can't really take them apart to take pictures, but if (when) I modify one of the LR atomizers, I'll be sure to take pictures.
It seems that there are a few issues going on here:
1) Some attys work great and continue to work great for a long time.
2) Some attys work great from the start but after only a week they fade fast and start to taste burnt.
3) Some attys just don't work from the start and make everything taste burnt.
I think 1 & 2 are due to the juice people are using. People who vape 100% clear PG juices see their attys last a long time. People who use a good percent of VG or use thicker juices probably see their attys fade after a week.
#3 must be due faulty atomizers. IF you never get a single good hit from the EGOT...even when you use the prefilled carts that came with the manufacturer...then you probably have a bad atty. I would suggest people to get some Dekang RY4 or Western tobacco just to test out their units to see if it is they got a bad atty or their liquid is the culprit.
1) Some attys work great and continue to work great for a long time.
2) Some attys work great from the start but after only a week they fade fast and start to taste burnt.
3) Some attys just don't work from the start and make everything taste burnt.
I think 1 & 2 are due to the juice people are using. People who vape 100% clear PG juices see their attys last a long time. People who use a good percent of VG or use thicker juices probably see their attys fade after a week.
#3 must be due faulty atomizers. IF you never get a single good hit from the EGOT...even when you use the prefilled carts that came with the manufacturer...then you probably have a bad atty. I would suggest people to get some Dekang RY4 or Western tobacco just to test out their units to see if it is they got a bad atty or their liquid is the culprit.
*Tenzip* good find and post on the dismantling of the Atty.!
I have a question about all this about the juices being run through the Ego-T and that is this =
Do ANY of the manufacturers in the statements say to only run PG juice through this Atty ? Not the vendors but the manufacturers ? I really think it should be made to work with all viscosity of juice and it could be.
I still say what I have since this Ego-T has come out, change the tanks to stainless steel, make the opening a bit bigger on the needle, a little bit of an adjustment on the wick, and best of all a 3ml tank. These changes would really be cool to see just how they work on this Ego-T Atty. From all of my experimenting with these so far this is what I think will make them become a much stronger unit to invest in for your vaping needs. I'm not positive.. this would need to be tested but from my own testing I think it would be sweet and work very nicely and also give a much fuller bodied taste to your liquids using the stainless steel over the plastic, it may up the price of the actual tanks but who cares, stainless would last forever you just clean them out and reuse and reuse.!
I have a question about all this about the juices being run through the Ego-T and that is this =
Do ANY of the manufacturers in the statements say to only run PG juice through this Atty ? Not the vendors but the manufacturers ? I really think it should be made to work with all viscosity of juice and it could be.
I still say what I have since this Ego-T has come out, change the tanks to stainless steel, make the opening a bit bigger on the needle, a little bit of an adjustment on the wick, and best of all a 3ml tank. These changes would really be cool to see just how they work on this Ego-T Atty. From all of my experimenting with these so far this is what I think will make them become a much stronger unit to invest in for your vaping needs. I'm not positive.. this would need to be tested but from my own testing I think it would be sweet and work very nicely and also give a much fuller bodied taste to your liquids using the stainless steel over the plastic, it may up the price of the actual tanks but who cares, stainless would last forever you just clean them out and reuse and reuse.!
Well lets say you use the thickest juice out there while I use Dekang RY4....I just can't see this unit working well for the both of the same way. If it works out for you probably it would flood for me. If it works great for me...then it would probably not wick well for you. I am not sure how they could get around that.
Fact of the matter is 95% of the world uses Dekang Juice. These guys are going after the lion share of the market. They design their products to work with Dekang Juices. I believe that there are probably a lot of bad attys out there but I also believe that a lot of the poor reviews are due to the juices people are using. Again I have experimented with different juices but one common thing I have noticed is that my attys last way longer with thin 100%pG juices....and I don't ever have to clean or dry burn my attys on Dekang juices.
I see a lot of people mentioning that the taste is very muted with these....I am not getting any of that at all. I get pretty much the same taste as I would dripping on my 510. I notice one guy mention that the only juice that has any flavor with the egot is the cartridges that it came with....well why do you think that its? IT is because it is Dekang juice.
Fact of the matter is 95% of the world uses Dekang Juice. These guys are going after the lion share of the market. They design their products to work with Dekang Juices. I believe that there are probably a lot of bad attys out there but I also believe that a lot of the poor reviews are due to the juices people are using. Again I have experimented with different juices but one common thing I have noticed is that my attys last way longer with thin 100%pG juices....and I don't ever have to clean or dry burn my attys on Dekang juices.
I see a lot of people mentioning that the taste is very muted with these....I am not getting any of that at all. I get pretty much the same taste as I would dripping on my 510. I notice one guy mention that the only juice that has any flavor with the egot is the cartridges that it came with....well why do you think that its? IT is because it is Dekang juice.
From simpleCJ's wick mod thread
"Thinner liquids; use a denser wick. Thicker liquids will do better with less wick material providing better flow. Adjust and modify to whatever works best for you!"
Personally though I use VG that is thinned 15%. I mix my own thinned down VG in to PG juices mixed 50/50. This works perfectly with the stock wicks, however there is no reason the manufacture couldn't provide two varieties of wicks. I doubt they will, but there is always this mod. It seems simple and straight forward enough. It's kind of obvious that the ego T is one of those products your probably going to have to learn how to tinker with to get them to work the way you want them to, or your going to have to mix your own juices to work right with it. If your willing to do this than you will most likely have a product that works great and is easy to use on a day to day basis. My only knock on it so far is how gummed up it gets with dark juices. Honestly though, it's not that much effort to burn the gunk off the wick and get it working right again.
I agree with you, a little bit. I would LOVE to see a 3 ml tank! A wider needle/wick might be a good idea, too. I wonder if that would lead to easier flooding of the atomizer, though....? I'd like to add on to your wishlist with an atomizer that is designed to be dismantled easily. Think of a Zippo lighter. You can take those things apart to replace the wicks, flint, and cotton filling quite easily. I know companies like to make their money with disposable units, but I would certainly pay a little extra for something that was customer-serviceable, indefinitely.
I mentioned in another post how I bought liquid from a American Vendor....the liquid was great but it made my atomizers go from lasting 6 weeks each to lasting 3 days. I had bought so much of that juice I didn't have the heart to throw it away....plus it tasted really good. Well I thought maybe if I dilute it with some RY4 juice with a ratio of 9:1 then my attys would last a month right? Wrong. Even though, I had diluted it so much it still was killing my attys in 5 days. Using dark juices, thick juices, VG juices with ecigs is just making your life harder. I used to kill attys left and right experimenting with juices. I used to clean my atties then dry burn the, etc. Now I don't go through that hassle anymore...I use clear dekang 100% PG juices and after using an atty for about month or two I throw it away. I throw away most of my attys way before they crap out on me.
Regarding modifying the EgoT wick....very interesting and it seems like it should be simple enough to do. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
Heres is the link for others:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ego-type-models/169520-simplecjs-ego-t-wick-mod.html
Regarding modifying the EgoT wick....very interesting and it seems like it should be simple enough to do. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
Heres is the link for others:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ego-type-models/169520-simplecjs-ego-t-wick-mod.html
The only problem with a 3ml tank is that the last 1/3 of the juice left in the tank would absolutely taste horrible. Ever noticed when you put in fresh juice the taste is so much better? The last few drops that is left in the tank doesn't taste very good is obviously a burnt because it about 10 shades darker than the juice in a fresh Tank. This is very obvious if your using clear liquids....not so much if your using darker liquids.
Ok, first of all, I'm on week 3 with my eGo-T. About a year ago I tried the Volcano 510 and then the GLV big battery unit with both 510 and 702 atty's, but eventually gave up on them due to too much hassle messing with cart mods and constantly refilling them and what not. Definitely not convenient if you're out and about.
I got an email from American E-liquid about the eGo-T and read a bunch of reviews and decided it was just what I needed. Decent battery life and nice big tanks to hold plenty of liquid.
I had problems right off the bat with both my atty's. I was vaping VG juice, not super thick but thicker than most PGs. Since the kit came with two batts and two atty's I was using both. Both of them seemed to be working fine the first day, but by day two they were both dumping liquid till it choked the airflow and ended up running down the mouthpiece. I was so frustrated with it. Then I read about adjusting the wick which I quickly found was pretty ridiculous.
After messing around with it and a bunch of emails with Vicki at Cignot, I figured out how to remove the needle plate. I soon figured out how to make my own wicks and now have two weeks of good vaping and have almost totally stopped analogs other than at first break at work when I bum a smoke of one of the guys. I ordered stronger juice, hoping it will help. 12mg isn't enough I think.
Anyways, it seems to me that the primary problem with the eGo-T is the wick. Either it wicks too much and leaks or it doesn't wick fast enough and you get nasty dry hits. Part of this has to do with the juice you're using, part of it is just the difference in the original wick.
My mod (link can be found in my signature) will allow you to make a new wick and tweak it until you find what works best for you and your juice. I think I've finally got it down now for my 50/50 mix I've been using. If it starts giving me problems, I can completely replace it in a few minutes.
Since "solving" my wick problems, my only gripe is the loss of flavor. Same juice will taste ok sometimes and other times is almost tasteless. I've ordered some double and triple flavor juices from gourmet vapor and hope this will help bring some flavor back. The fact that the flavor seems to disappear with the tank atty has me stumped.
Someone had said that the wire mesh around the coil is what feeds the juice to the coil, but I don't think it is supposed to. How does the juice feed from the mesh to the coil, are there holes in the side of the coil cup that I can't see? If that is how it is intended to work then why does the wick go directly to the coil?
On another note, the current atty's are on version 2 right now. Hopefully they will get better with the next version. Also looking forward to the bigger tank! I've been going through about 4 tanks a day, would be nice to cut that to two as long as there aren't any leaking issues cause that'd be a lot of juice to leak!
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I got an email from American E-liquid about the eGo-T and read a bunch of reviews and decided it was just what I needed. Decent battery life and nice big tanks to hold plenty of liquid.
I had problems right off the bat with both my atty's. I was vaping VG juice, not super thick but thicker than most PGs. Since the kit came with two batts and two atty's I was using both. Both of them seemed to be working fine the first day, but by day two they were both dumping liquid till it choked the airflow and ended up running down the mouthpiece. I was so frustrated with it. Then I read about adjusting the wick which I quickly found was pretty ridiculous.
After messing around with it and a bunch of emails with Vicki at Cignot, I figured out how to remove the needle plate. I soon figured out how to make my own wicks and now have two weeks of good vaping and have almost totally stopped analogs other than at first break at work when I bum a smoke of one of the guys. I ordered stronger juice, hoping it will help. 12mg isn't enough I think.
Anyways, it seems to me that the primary problem with the eGo-T is the wick. Either it wicks too much and leaks or it doesn't wick fast enough and you get nasty dry hits. Part of this has to do with the juice you're using, part of it is just the difference in the original wick.
My mod (link can be found in my signature) will allow you to make a new wick and tweak it until you find what works best for you and your juice. I think I've finally got it down now for my 50/50 mix I've been using. If it starts giving me problems, I can completely replace it in a few minutes.
Since "solving" my wick problems, my only gripe is the loss of flavor. Same juice will taste ok sometimes and other times is almost tasteless. I've ordered some double and triple flavor juices from gourmet vapor and hope this will help bring some flavor back. The fact that the flavor seems to disappear with the tank atty has me stumped.
Someone had said that the wire mesh around the coil is what feeds the juice to the coil, but I don't think it is supposed to. How does the juice feed from the mesh to the coil, are there holes in the side of the coil cup that I can't see? If that is how it is intended to work then why does the wick go directly to the coil?
On another note, the current atty's are on version 2 right now. Hopefully they will get better with the next version. Also looking forward to the bigger tank! I've been going through about 4 tanks a day, would be nice to cut that to two as long as there aren't any leaking issues cause that'd be a lot of juice to leak!
MAKE SURE YOU CHECK OUT MY WICK MOD AND LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK!!!!
Anyways, it seems to me that the primary problem with the eGo-T is the wick. Either it wicks too much and leaks or it doesn't wick fast enough and you get nasty dry hits. Part of this has to do with the juice you're using, part of it is just the difference in the original wick.
On another note, the current atty's are on version 2 right now. Hopefully they will get better with the next version. Also looking forward to the bigger tank! I've been going through about 4 tanks a day, would be nice to cut that to two as long as there aren't any leaking issues cause that'd be a lot of juice to leak!
MAKE SURE YOU CHECK OUT MY WICK MOD AND LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK!!!!
I just don't see how they can please everyone with the wicking issue. If everyone was using the same type of liquid then it would be easy. They can make their quality control better so that anyone one using 100% clear PG liquids would be satisfied (that would be the majority of people) but obviously people using VG/PG mixes or straight VG liquids would still have problems.
I think your solution of making your own custom wicks....is the way to go for people having a lot of problems with the wicking. It seems easy enough to do.
As I stated earlier bigger tanks would only mean....the last third of the tank you would be vaping on burnt liquid which can't be a good thing. Already the last few drops left in the these tanks are about ten shades darker than a fresh tank.
I've been using them for about 4 weeks now. It isn't God's Gift to Vaping, but nothing is, if you want an 'out of the box' system and don't want a fancy mod-box. It works pretty decently for me, I like the easy refill, and it has a better taste than the CE-2 and mega cartos I was using. My main vape flavor is FreedomSmoke USA's vanilla tahity, sometimes home-mixed with added cinnamon, clove, cream and cardamom for my 'chai' vape. The mega-cartos tasted 'thin', and the CE-2's had a metallic flavor, when compared side-by-side with the Ego-T.
I have had a bit of leaking issues, but all the other things I've tried (510 cartridges, mega cartridges, CE-2, mega cartomizers) also had some leaking issues.
I've cleaned my atties out with both boiling water and alcohol, both seem to work equally well. I had one atty go all burnt, and when I took out the plate, the wick had come apart. Another had the wick fall out when I cleaned it. Both were promptly replaced by Vicki at Cignot (who rocks out loud), and the replacements she sent me work great. I've had a couple tanks bust on me, one the cap fell apart when I went to fill it the first time, and the other lost its cap (my fault, I was removing the caps every time instead of loading through the hole, wasn't thinking) and it got stuck on the piercing pin and I had to destroy it prying it out.
Is it perfect? No, but nothing is. Is it good? It has been 80% good for me, at least as good as anything I've tried so far, and better than most. I went through my E9, my E8, my KR808, and all my different 510/Ego methods side-by-side and so far the flavor on the Ego-T is better (IMO) than all those, using the same flavor in all of them.
Just my .02, from a 7 month vaper.
I have had a bit of leaking issues, but all the other things I've tried (510 cartridges, mega cartridges, CE-2, mega cartomizers) also had some leaking issues.
I've cleaned my atties out with both boiling water and alcohol, both seem to work equally well. I had one atty go all burnt, and when I took out the plate, the wick had come apart. Another had the wick fall out when I cleaned it. Both were promptly replaced by Vicki at Cignot (who rocks out loud), and the replacements she sent me work great. I've had a couple tanks bust on me, one the cap fell apart when I went to fill it the first time, and the other lost its cap (my fault, I was removing the caps every time instead of loading through the hole, wasn't thinking) and it got stuck on the piercing pin and I had to destroy it prying it out.
Is it perfect? No, but nothing is. Is it good? It has been 80% good for me, at least as good as anything I've tried so far, and better than most. I went through my E9, my E8, my KR808, and all my different 510/Ego methods side-by-side and so far the flavor on the Ego-T is better (IMO) than all those, using the same flavor in all of them.
Just my .02, from a 7 month vaper.
I've had my 2 for about 3 weeks now. The first pair, well one just fried, the second started tasting burnt. Note that these are Tornado-T's, basically the same thing just with that cute li'l devil on the side...
TW replaced the first 2 under warranty, and the second pair have been working well, until today. One started tasting dry/burnt, so I thought cleaning and adjusting the wick would help.
Well...that one ended up with a wick replacement, but I killed a carto to do it. Found SimpleCJ's wick mod, and I will be doing that. My coil looks good in the one that I took apart, so after I dryburned it and got it together, it is working fine again.
It is hit and miss, getting a good one, but this is relatively new stuff, and we can hope that the mfgr. will get it figured out.
As for a simpler, cheaper way to tank, the SmartCart isn't too bad.
I've manage to kick analogs nearly completely on my T, so I'm pretty happy. I smoke a cigarello now and then out in the shop working on a clock, or ironically, a box mod, but aside from that or just high-stress habitual need-the-narsty-smoke, I'm good.
I will buy an ego-T for a replacement, I kinda want to figure out a way to replace the coil in my T once one of them dies, then I'll be nearly FDA proof.
The T isn't a fiddle-free vape, but IMHO nothing that works well is. Either you're refilling cartos, carts, or dripping and getting juice on the tongue (blech!) or you're making and cleaning wicks for the T. The wick is the weak point in these, and it'd be nice if the suppliers or someone started making replacement wicks for like 10/5$ or less. Manually, the wicks are a pain in the ... to make, but surely the machinery that makes them now could produce them for pennies, and package them up...
TW replaced the first 2 under warranty, and the second pair have been working well, until today. One started tasting dry/burnt, so I thought cleaning and adjusting the wick would help.
Well...that one ended up with a wick replacement, but I killed a carto to do it. Found SimpleCJ's wick mod, and I will be doing that. My coil looks good in the one that I took apart, so after I dryburned it and got it together, it is working fine again.
It is hit and miss, getting a good one, but this is relatively new stuff, and we can hope that the mfgr. will get it figured out.
As for a simpler, cheaper way to tank, the SmartCart isn't too bad.
I've manage to kick analogs nearly completely on my T, so I'm pretty happy. I smoke a cigarello now and then out in the shop working on a clock, or ironically, a box mod, but aside from that or just high-stress habitual need-the-narsty-smoke, I'm good.
I will buy an ego-T for a replacement, I kinda want to figure out a way to replace the coil in my T once one of them dies, then I'll be nearly FDA proof.
The T isn't a fiddle-free vape, but IMHO nothing that works well is. Either you're refilling cartos, carts, or dripping and getting juice on the tongue (blech!) or you're making and cleaning wicks for the T. The wick is the weak point in these, and it'd be nice if the suppliers or someone started making replacement wicks for like 10/5$ or less. Manually, the wicks are a pain in the ... to make, but surely the machinery that makes them now could produce them for pennies, and package them up...
Just maybe. Why these work better for some than others. These attys are not all made by the same company. I see another vendor has ego-t attys made by a company called "Brother". An ecf vendor has told me she 3 emails a day from people peddling their off brand products.
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My brother Bill just gave me a tornado t and the ego t so this is my first week of using. I am a big carto fan.
It works pretty good, no problems so far. I am on 0 nic now so my flavors are really lite tasting an it took quite
awhile to get use to 0 nic, but am still enjoying vaping and do not see myself giving up as I smoked for way to many years and quit only last may, and have not had a real cig since then. I know me and I am afraid I would go back as I tried the patch and gum and they did not work in the long run I still wanted to smoke. This makes me feel like I am only with no cough or smell bad on me. The only thing I see is that the things are pretty darn expensive so will use them till the atty's go and then will continue to use my carts, unless the price drops. thats to much money for one atty.
It works pretty good, no problems so far. I am on 0 nic now so my flavors are really lite tasting an it took quite
awhile to get use to 0 nic, but am still enjoying vaping and do not see myself giving up as I smoked for way to many years and quit only last may, and have not had a real cig since then. I know me and I am afraid I would go back as I tried the patch and gum and they did not work in the long run I still wanted to smoke. This makes me feel like I am only with no cough or smell bad on me. The only thing I see is that the things are pretty darn expensive so will use them till the atty's go and then will continue to use my carts, unless the price drops. thats to much money for one atty.
... as long as people are willing to buy cheap, knock offs will continue to flourish. This is not at all related to the eGo T system. We have seen this repeatedly with other products as well.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with selling knockoffs everyone is entitled to make a living. OTOH some vendors indiscriminately sell knockoffs as the real thing, and that is where the problem lies.
It is unfortunate, but it is what it is!
I got the eGo T because I am a trucker. I can't drip, refilling an atty/cart combo was difficult but not impossible, and I gave up on finding any carto that I actually liked. I constantly had a 510 mega battery on a charger and 2 standing by. So this seemed like the perfect solution: Long battery life and I could fill up a couple tanks and be good until I got to my next stop. And I was right.
The flavor is fine, the vapor is fine, the TH is fine. Not spectacular, but not at all bad. I've only ever used 2 T atomizers, cleaned them weekly and gently blow them out when I switch tanks. Has it worked perfectly every time? Of course not. Neither have any of the other cartos or atty's that I've used though.
I found that some juices worked better than others regardless of vg/pg blend. I've had 80% VG that worked fine like Liquid Amber and 80% VG that didn't work at all like Blueberry. Both from the same supplier ordered at the same time. That doesn't mean it sucks, it means that Blueberry doesn't work too well for whatever reason. I've used dark juices like cafe mocha that tasted better than dripped while kahlua had little flavor at all, but was quite tasty dripped. I don't know why and I don't care. I just keep in mind what works and what doesn't.
I think GrimmGreen's review was fair enough as it was his opinion of a product. He didn't like it and that's cool. I mean if I were to review de-bridging an atty I'd say it was the biggest waste of time and money possible. It is just opinion.
It took me many months of trial and error before I found something that worked for me. This particular product had all of the things I needed to get rid of analogs in my life.
I think that the most important thing is what works for you to get rid of analogs.
The flavor is fine, the vapor is fine, the TH is fine. Not spectacular, but not at all bad. I've only ever used 2 T atomizers, cleaned them weekly and gently blow them out when I switch tanks. Has it worked perfectly every time? Of course not. Neither have any of the other cartos or atty's that I've used though.
I found that some juices worked better than others regardless of vg/pg blend. I've had 80% VG that worked fine like Liquid Amber and 80% VG that didn't work at all like Blueberry. Both from the same supplier ordered at the same time. That doesn't mean it sucks, it means that Blueberry doesn't work too well for whatever reason. I've used dark juices like cafe mocha that tasted better than dripped while kahlua had little flavor at all, but was quite tasty dripped. I don't know why and I don't care. I just keep in mind what works and what doesn't.
I think GrimmGreen's review was fair enough as it was his opinion of a product. He didn't like it and that's cool. I mean if I were to review de-bridging an atty I'd say it was the biggest waste of time and money possible. It is just opinion.
It took me many months of trial and error before I found something that worked for me. This particular product had all of the things I needed to get rid of analogs in my life.
I think that the most important thing is what works for you to get rid of analogs.
I have to say I had a reg. ego but got so frustrated having to refill all the time,I've tried mega carts, I'm aheavy vaper,nothing seemed to last for me. I upgrated to the T atty & tank. I don't have a problem with the system at all, mine draws easy, great vapor,long lasting. There is only one problem......I have lost all the taste of my awesome juice.
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