Dual micro coil build

[mikeymarss]

What do you mean wires per coil? As in the wraps? Little confused

 

[Bunnykiller]

yes, don't be stupid and use a multimeter, people get angry at you if you put erronious data on here. is your tobh a 26650 size or is it standard size?

22mm or 30mm has nothing to do with the ohms and current draw.....

 

[jdake3265]

What do you mean wires per coil? As in the wraps? Little confused

dont even try it

 

[jdake3265]

22mm or 30mm has nothing to do with the ohms and current draw.....

what do you mean?

 

[jdake3265]

oh i see, i was just wondering, it had nothing to do with it.

 

[Poisontail]

What do you mean wires per coil? As in the wraps? Little confused

What I just gave you was correct for your build! Wires per coil is talking about two wires twisted tight in a drill then wrapped around your bit kinda like parallel coils but not

 

[Bunnykiller]

I know i have the proper mech mod and atomizer. Im running a hades mod along with a TOBH atomizer. The battery im using is a MNKE high drain IMR 26650, 3,500 mAh. I just havent had the time to purchase an ohm reader yet.

the MNKE 26650 battery is rated for 20A maximum draw..... to be on the "safe" side dont go beyond 17A.... unless you want your battery to last 1/2 or less of the life time expectancy it is designed for....

 

[Bunnykiller]

If the ohm reader on your MVP is only a 2 digit reader and you're getting 0.0 reading, then either you are at a dead short or too close to one for me. I wouldn't touch that thing until you get a multi-meter at this point. Ohm readers are nice, but at the range you are at, you need as close to 100% accuracy as you can get, and I doubt you're going to get that from a $15 ohm reader, honestly. .0-anything is critically low. Far too low to vape IMO.

I use a multi-meter for anything below .5 because even a .1 ohm swing when you are playing that low can be a gigantic difference. I mean, I hate to sound like I'm trying to scare you, but the numbers your kicking out are way too low for your first coil. Hell it's way too low for me and I've been building for close to 2 years.

Can I ask why that low? Have you tried RDAs at a higher resistance? Say .6 - .8 range? Is there really a _need_ to go that low?

cheap MM's are not accurate enuf to measure down to .0X ohms... plan on spending 200+$ for one that is capable of a zero set function and less than .1 ohms

other than that, the black box ohm meters are our second best bet as far as accuracy... +/- .05 ohms at best

 

[mikeymarss]

Ohh ok i understand i just watched a video on that last night. Definity not gonna attempt tho

 

[readeuler]

What do you mean wires per coil? As in the wraps? Little confused

Some people make twisted coils, where you essentially braid 2 or more wires together, and this new wire has a fraction of the resistance of a single strand. It is an advanced technique, but that's what "wires per coil" is referring to, not the number of wraps.

You should be careful of some advice within this thread, that's all I'll say.

 

[mikeymarss]

I completely understand.

 

[jdake3265]

Some people make twisted coils, where you essentially braid 2 or more wires together, and this new wire has a fraction of the resistance of a single strand. It is an advanced technique, but that's what "wires per coil" is referring to, not the number of wraps.

You should be careful of some advice within this thread, that's all I'll say.

also it could apply to parallel coils

 

[Bunnykiller]

what do you mean?

just because the "container" is bigger doesnt change the value of the coils ohms.... if its a 26Ga at so many wraps, the ohms stay the same even if its in a smaller atty

 

[jdake3265]

look mikey don't attempt any of these until you do some research and are better at building. also get a higher Amp battery

 

[jdake3265]

just because the "container" is bigger doesnt change the value of the coils ohms.... if its a 26Ga at so many wraps, the ohms stay the same even if its in a smaller atty

im not stupid, that isnt why i asked. i asked because i was wondering if he had the bigger atty to go with the hades.

 

[mikeymarss]

Will do. Im gonna build a single micro coil just as you told me and vape that for a while. Thennn if i feel like getting into more complicated builds ill be sure to do things the safe way.

 

[jdake3265]

Will do. Im gonna build a single micro coil just as you told me and vape that for a while. Thennn if i feel like getting into more complicated builds ill be sure to do things the safe way.

Dont do that. do a dual regular coil. thats two reg size coils with whatever gauge you want. a single micro coil wont give you the vapor production you want.

 

[mikeymarss]

How many wraps for that regular coil? Roughly

 

[Bunnykiller]

What do you mean wires per coil? As in the wraps? Little confused

there are Multitude of variations of wraps.... you can use 1 wire to make a coil, you can use multiple wires to make 1 coil ( 2,3,4+ etc) but when you use multiple wires to make 1 coil you end up making 2,3,4+ parallel coils in "1" coil.... so in effect, if you make a "dual" single coil in a single wrapped coil and you do that set up as a dual you end up with "4" parallel coils ( 2 per coil)... twisted coils basically "thicken" the wire to the next couple of gauges down... for example a twisted 28 becomes a 24 ga ( roughly).... but a dual ( 2 wires side by side) becomes 1/2 of what the single ga is. as far as ohms... when you "burn" your coil at set up you oxidize the wire to "insulate" it from the other wire thus allowing for a "dual" coil in the same matrix....

 

[jdake3265]

How many wraps for that regular coil? Roughly

5-7 some people do more, but when you do 8+ wraps it is normally for a micro coil.