E-Power Users: READ THIS. Answer to the problem with the new white LED switch not working with anything below 2.0ohms

[mynameisrob]

I figured out the problem with the switches so wanted to update whats going on with it. I spoke with someone from Smoktech as well as a few vendors about it.

The older switch, plastic with blue LED, can handle the LRs no problem. Ive been using the Ressurectors since day one with no problems whatsoever.
With the new switch with the white LED, since it has the new 5-click on/off, they had to re-do all the internals for it. What they failed to tell people, is that the new one is NOT rated to use anything lower than 2.0ohms. So then that is obviously why people are having problems with it using 1.7ohms or below. I have no idea why they did that or why they decided to just change it and not tell anybody, but..yeah.

Since obviously they started to get all kinds of complains from vendors, users, etc that used cartos lower than 2.0ohm before, since now the cartos people have always used are now not working on the new switch they immediately re-did the internals AGAIN and fixed the problem.

SO, yzer you were right with the switch issue. Smoktech royally f'd up and decided to leave out that the new one was not rated to use anything lower than 2.0ohm. When you do try to use something lower, it will just flash like you said. I did order one, with a new spring too, but havent gotten it yet, but I assume that I will have the same problem since I use the Ressurectors.

Fortunately they have fixed the problem though. They re-did the internally on the new white LED switch and now it is rated to use up to 1.25ohm cartos. Obviously it wasnt fast enough though bc alot of people bought the new one and are having the problem, me included(once I get it)

I spoke with Brent from Hoosier tonight and he is waiting on the order for the ones that are meant for LR cartos. He said he is prob going to sell the current ones that cant go below 2.0ohm at a discount for people that use SR attys/cartos and once their gone, just carry the LR switch which will work with LR and SR. I was told from Brent and the guy from Smoktech that the fixed one will be able to handle up to the 1.25ohms, so basically all LRs.

So for anyone that has an E-Power and had a problem with the newest switch, I hope this helps clear up the issue.

If your planning on getting the new switch, I would wait alittle for the new ones to come in if you use LRs. I assume mines gona cause the same problem so Im going to send it back when it comes in this week and wait for the new one. Im going to talk to Andrew from CCV tomorrow. I assume hes already heard about this and will prob get the fixed ones too. I had ordered it from there and Im pretty sure right now he only has the ones that are rated for 2.0ohm or above. But since he refuses to carry crappy stuff, I figure he will also get the newer LR white button one that will handle below 2.0ohms as well as SRs.

Im not sure when Brent is getting them in but he said he was waiting on them so I figure it will be soon. Smoktech already fixed it, Brents just waiting on the shipment. So for anyone that is going to order one, I would wait alittle and call the vendor before you order it to make sure its the switch rated for LRs.


So I hope this helped for anyone that got the new white LED switch with the 5-click on/off. If you use attys/cartos below 2.0ohm and already purchased the white LED switch, I would send it back and wait for the fixed one. The fixed one is rated to use up to 1.25ohms so that should fix the problem people are having.

Thanks to Yzer for bringing this issue to light and stirring up my curiosity to figure out what the heck was going on with it.
Even though I havent had any problems with mine yet, and all my original components have worked flawlessly, I did order the new switch just to have the 5-click on/off, but I figure when my switch comes in Ill have the same problem. I wouldnt mind having the option to use a 5-click on/off feature, but without being able to use below 2.0ohms, it would be useless!!

Hopefully the fixed one is problem free and will work great with attys/cartos below 2.0ohm!
And FINALLY the 14650 E-Power will be a pretty bad-... affordable 3.7V PV!
(Ha it only took 4 tries to get the switch right, way to sheet-the-bed Smoktech!)

 

[madjack]

...as a fan of the E-Power, this is indeed good to hear...thanks for getting out there and finding out what's what...ya gotta feel for all the vendors who sell these and had to deal with these issues............
madjack

 

[yzer]

Rob, thanks for following up on this.

I'm using the current white light switch module with the 2.0 ohm LR XL that Brent sells at Hoosier. It works fine with the current white switch module and doesn't perform that differently from the 1.7 ohm LR XL. I still have a E-Power 14650 with the blue switch that's good for the 1.7 ohm LR XL "Resurrector."

When I talked to Brent about this last week he said it would take some time to get the new white switch modules that are compatible with LR cartos under 2.0 ohms. The fastest shipping I ever had from China was 13 days. Hopefully, SmokTech has the new switches in production.

It will be nice to have a new switch module that has the safety lock-out feature and can handle down to 1.25 ohm LR cartos. I'll be sure to order some when Hoosier has them.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...48025-current-e-power-14650-switch-issue.html

 

[Rickajho]

Gee, I just ordered an E-Power & LR cartos from smok-Tek this weekend. Now I'm wondering what switch I will be getting. Seem to recall the site said it included the "new" switch. But that might be any one of three different versions of "new"? We'll see...

 

[yzer]

Rickajho, if you order the E-Power 14650 in the starter kit box from Hoosier it looks like you will get the current white switch module that works with 2.0 ohm cartos and above. Brent packs the 2.0 ohm LR XL cartos with these: that's what I got when I ordered my E-Power 14650 from Hoosier in the middle of last month. It came with the blue light switch, though. There is only a slight difference in resistance between these and the "Resurrector" cartos: both hold the same amount of juice.

It looks like smoktek (not to be confused with Smoktech, who actually makes the E-Power) sells the E-Power 14650 starter kit with 2.5 ohm attys and cartridges. They don't say which of the switch modules is included.

Let us know what you get. Maybe you will luck out and get one of the older blue light switch modules.

 

[yzer]

Rob, threads disappear quickly on ECF because it's such a popular forum. Here is how to do low-lost multiple 14650 battery charging for cheap with the E-Power single-cell chargers (in case you missed it). These are quite nice chargers incidentally because they terminate charge at less than 4.2 volts.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...w-cost-6-channel-li-ion-battery-charging.html

 

[swedishfish]

Thanks so much for the info!

 

[mynameisrob]

I would call Smoktek and see what comes with the kit. The picture actually shows the first switch, which had a rubber button which would get stuck easily and can fall out. I would hope that is just an old picture bc thats the switch that was used when the E-Power first came out. That one will work with LRs though bc its actually the exact same switch as the second one. The only difference is that they put in a plastic button instead which is ALOT more reliable. Im still using my original blue LED plastic button switch that came with my E-Power and it hasnt had the slightest problem. So hopefully its that one if you use LRs. Is easy to tell. If its got the rubber button its the first one, if its got a plastic button with blue LED its the 2nd one, and if its a plastic button with a white LED its the third one, which is the one that cant be used with anything under 2.0ohms right now.
I would do what yzer said if you like LRs. The 2.0ohms really arnt that much of a difference. I would call Smoktek tomorrow and ask. If it is the newest one maybe order some 2.0ohm LR cartos. There are a few vendors that still sell the 2nd switch also, not all of them have started selling the newest one yet so you could prob order the blue LED plastic one too as another option. Maybe even call vendors like CCV and Hoosier, even tho they have started selling the newest one, maybe they have some of the older ones laying around that they could sell you.

Dont fret your E-Power purchase. Its a great device that really packs a punch.

 

[mynameisrob]

Rob, threads disappear quickly on ECF because it's such a popular forum. Here is how to do low-lost multiple 14650 battery charging for cheap with the E-Power single-cell chargers (in case you missed it). These are quite nice chargers incidentally because they terminate charge at less than 4.2 volts.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...w-cost-6-channel-li-ion-battery-charging.html

Ha I did see that thread. I love it!! Thats def not a bad way to charge a bunch at once.
With what you said about them incidentally coming off at less than 4.2V, I actually noticed that too. I didnt know if that was true or my multimeter was just off/crappy. I got the multimeter madvapes sells on ebay for $3.43 with free shipping. It does come from China so it takes alittle longer but I still got it in under 2 weeks. Its not a bad deal at all and serves its purpose well.
I noticed the batteries off the charger after it stops blinking and stays solid green come off at 4.06-4.07V. Are yours around that too?

 

[yzer]

I have a couple of DMMs so I tried them all with the terminal charge off the E-Power single cell chargers. I'm calling 2.14 VDC for terminal charge with the E-Power single cell chargers. That's optimal for Li-ion, because a 4.20 terminal charge voltage provided by some multi-cell chargers is just too danged high for longest life and to be safe and sane for standard Li-ion batteries.

 

[yzer]

Incidentally, the 14650 Li-ion batteries sold under the Smoktech name and provided with the mod measure 69 mm in length. That's definitely at the far end of the 14650 size range. They work great, however. These batteries will NOT fit in my TrustFire TR-001 fully independent charging two-cell charger. They just barely fit in the E-Power YL-103A.

I might add that these batteries are workhorses and I go more than a day and between 2-3 ml vaping per day.

 

[Cigarman]

I would call Smoktek and see what comes with the kit. The picture actually shows the first switch, which had a rubber button which would get stuck easily and can fall out. I would hope that is just an old picture bc thats the switch that was used when the E-Power first came out. That one will work with LRs though bc its actually the exact same switch as the second one. The only difference is that they put in a plastic button instead which is ALOT more reliable. Im still using my original blue LED plastic button switch that came with my E-Power and it hasnt had the slightest problem. So hopefully its that one if you use LRs. Is easy to tell. If its got the rubber button its the first one, if its got a plastic button with blue LED its the 2nd one, and if its a plastic button with a white LED its the third one, which is the one that cant be used with anything under 2.0ohms right now.
I would do what yzer said if you like LRs. The 2.0ohms really arnt that much of a difference. I would call Smoktek tomorrow and ask. If it is the newest one maybe order some 2.0ohm LR cartos. There are a few vendors that still sell the 2nd switch also, not all of them have started selling the newest one yet so you could prob order the blue LED plastic one too as another option. Maybe even call vendors like CCV and Hoosier, even tho they have started selling the newest one, maybe they have some of the older ones laying around that they could sell you.

Dont fret your E-Power purchase. Its a great device that really packs a punch.

I need to update the site pics, but wanted to let you know that the new kits have the white LED and will run the 1.7 ohm Rejuvenator, but not the 1.25 dual coil. Hope this helps.

Happy Holidays

 

[swedishfish]

I need to update the site pics, but wanted to let you know that the new kits have the white LED and will run the 1.7 ohm Rejuvenator, but not the 1.25 dual coil. Hope this helps.

Happy Holidays

Thanks! I'm getting on after Christmas.

 

[robociggs]

i ordered one from myvaporstore the other day. it's the 18650 model. any idea what switch i'll end up getting? they make no mention of the five click control thing.

 

[Kevin littell]

Nieghbor ordered 2 kits.....White led, no 5 hit on/off button and gives warning on anything below 2 ohms, These kits were just ordered from litecigusa.


He's contacted them for support and I have him working off the SR carts that come with the kit. I'm positive that vendor will help him out.



Just a warning though. I noticed that the only way to get it working again after it giving a LR warning (Flashing white led) is to remove the switch from the tube and let it sit unconnected for a spell.

 

[robociggs]

i got mine, its a blue light and runs a 1.7 ohm atty till the 8 second warning comes on. it also looks a lot different than other e-powers i've seen.

<http://www.myvaporstore.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=EEPBU> <mine

<http://www.madvapes.com/E-Power-Replacable-Battery-kit_p_2952.html> <the other one

my batt goes in from the bottom and the button part doesn't appear to come off.

 

[chawn243]

thanks for the great info, guess i will be ordering a new switch for mine.

 

[robociggs]

i been ripping it all night w/ the clearomizers that supposidly leak and crack a lot. they do seem a bit delicate, but nice flow, real good vapor. i got the dc tank too, but i can't get it to work right. is that an HV appliance? i filled the carto first, overfilled even, and it kinda vaped ok, now i got a tank loaded up that insn't working right. i let it sit for a while too, rolling it around even.

any ideas?

 

[mynameisrob]

Just wanted to add an update about the switch.

I spoke with Andrew from CCV 2 days ago and he actually didnt know about a newer white LED switch coming out that will be rated to use LRs. He said he wasalready going to talk to the Smoktech guy that night and he would ask about it. I called him today, and he said that I was correct and there was indeed a LR switch coming out that will work with cartos below 2.0ohms. He placed an order for a few 100 yesterday and he said he should get them in right around Jan 1st. So this is def good news and the LR switches will be available in about 10days or so.
Andrew said that the Smoktech rep told him the new ones will be rated to use 1.5ohm Dual Coils. Brent from Hoosier said the new ones are rated to use up to 1.25ohm cartos. So I dont know which one is true, but regardless, the new white LED LR switch will be able to handle the lower resistances. I dont use 1.25ohm cartos anyway so I dont really care which it is. If it can handle 1.5ohm cartos well, then Im def happy about it.

 

[Mr. Buttflakes]

thats great news..I'll be watching for these