E2 Cartomizer Technical Discussion

[PattyR]

It sounds like you found the blanket, and the tube he's talking about could be wrapped inside the blanket. (The blanket is in the middle of the loose poyester fill). I have also seen something like a little dirty sock inside the blanket before, so I'm not sure if that's the tube he's talking about or what.

I thought the woven wick might be inside the felt, but couldn't find it. All I could find was the filler material, the felt, and the wire. It's possible that I wasn't careful enough when I eviscerated the carto and overlooked something. I'll pull another one apart and be more careful this time. I'll also pull apart a Joye carto as well as another V4L.

 

[Guitrman1]

Anyone have an opinion on a carto with some sort of "pump". I think that these E2's are lasting (for me anyways) long enough that maybe instead of the wick or ptb there could be some kinda of pump or pressure based system to dispense a drop or two of liquid directly on top of the coil from inside of the resevoir. This could completely negate wicking issues as the liquid would be on demand if you will. Just a thought I had.

 

[v1John]

Here is an old pic I found. Patty thanks, but you don't need to waste cartos, tho I do wonder what wick he's talking about.

 

[BanjoMan]

Anyone have an opinion on a carto with some sort of "pump". I think that these E2's are lasting (for me anyways) long enough that maybe instead of the wick or ptb there could be some kinda of pump or pressure based system to dispense a drop or two of liquid directly on top of the coil from inside of the resevoir. This could completely negate wicking issues as the liquid would be on demand if you will. Just a thought I had.

Sounds way too complicated (and expensive) for a carto, but several people are using these on the WetBox with good results.

 

[v1John]

Anyone have an opinion on a carto with some sort of "pump". I think that these E2's are lasting (for me anyways) long enough that maybe instead of the wick or ptb there could be some kinda of pump or pressure based system to dispense a drop or two of liquid directly on top of the coil from inside of the resevoir. This could completely negate wicking issues as the liquid would be on demand if you will. Just a thought I had.

Once or twice there was a post about a liquid ink-jet nozzle, almost like an ink-jet printer. Other than that I don't know how a small ecig can be made like that.

 

[Guitrman1]

Once or twice there was a post about a liquid ink-jet nozzle, almost like an ink-jet printer. Other than that I don't know how a small ecig can be made like that.

I was thinking more like a wetbox style I guess. Nothing fancy. A simple bladder if you will that when pressure is applied juice is forced up and out or around.

 

[Lazerrred]

Ok, I've searched with no love and this is probably a stupid question. Has anyone used the condom method for filling? Or will the juice just go up the tube and flood the coil and make a mess.

 

[BanjoMan]

Ok, I've searched with no love and this is probably a stupid question. Has anyone used the condom method for filling? Or will the juice just go up the tube and flood the coil and make a mess.

The condom method won't work on these. You have to use a syringe or pull the filler ring and drip it in.

 

[rbonie]

I was thinking more like a wetbox style I guess. Nothing fancy. A simple bladder if you will that when pressure is applied juice is forced up and out or around.

Usin the "wetbox" right now. No leaks/ No filling / like driping a new atty all the time!!!
WHAT A DEAL!!!!!!

 

[rbonie]

Anyone have an opinion on a carto with some sort of "pump". I think that these E2's are lasting (for me anyways) long enough that maybe instead of the wick or ptb there could be some kinda of pump or pressure based system to dispense a drop or two of liquid directly on top of the coil from inside of the resevoir. This could completely negate wicking issues as the liquid would be on demand if you will. Just a thought I had.

Check this...
Micro peristaltic pumps - TAKASAGO-ELECTRIC - Peristaltic pump

 

[PattyR]

Here is an old pic I found. Patty thanks, but you don't need to waste cartos, tho I do wonder what wick he's talking about.

OK, I took an old Joye 510 carto apart and found a woven wick "tube" inside the felt blanket. It's pretty small, but I finagled it inside an e2 carto to sort of "nest" against one of the slots on the ceramic cup. To do the job right, I guess you'd need two of the woven tubes - one for each slot. It vapes pretty well, but I think I'm missing a piece of Bad's puzzle with the stuff he used for his brother's mod. I'm eager to hear more about what he did. Once he can twist his brother's arm to get it back, of course

 

[zoiDman]

OK, I took an old Joye 510 carto apart and found a woven wick "tube" inside the felt blanket. It's pretty small, but I finagled it inside an e2 carto to sort of "nest" against one of the slots on the ceramic cup. To do the job right, I guess you'd need two of the woven tubes - one for each slot. It vapes pretty well, but I think I'm missing a piece of Bad's puzzle with the stuff he used for his brother's mod. I'm eager to hear more about what he did. Once he can twist his brother's arm to get it back, of course

I have found that the silica tube that comes out of a regular carto works better than nothing. But not as well as PTB material.

 

[zoiDman]

BTW - Blue Foam actualy works better than LTP material but I'm not sure that It should be used to close to a heat source like the atomizer coil.

 

[v1John]

ok then it doesn't work better

 

[PattyR]

I have found that the silica tube that comes out of a regular carto works better than nothing. But not as well as PTB material.

I agree, which is why I don't think I have a complete understanding of what Bad did with his brother's e2 mod. Maybe when Bad resurfaces from his nic overdose, we'll find out more.

 

[zoiDman]

ok then it doesn't work better

Not sure. If it can take the thermal load, then it is better. I'm just tired of being the beta tester of these things when it comes to possible health issues.

The Blue foam doesn't appear to be breaking down but that doesn't mean that it isn't in the presense of e-Juice and heat. It could be under going a Redox and giving off unwanted compounds. I just don't know.

 

[Lazerrred]

The condom method won't work on these. You have to use a syringe or pull the filler ring and drip it in.

Thanks to confirm Banjo. I suspected that when I made a mess ! LOL. The syringe for me is a bit of a pita with what I have to work for now with for my juice. I've been dripping down the side without much problem. Wished there was a more efficient way.

 

[40bikes]

Just want to throw a quick thanks to all of the principal weird scientists on this thread(Bad, Banjo, BR, naviathan,v1John, Zoid,Turbo et al) you guys have really advanced the development of these CE2s. I can't imagine a US company responding as quickly. US companies seem to have forgotten the customer is always right (maybe because the customer always has a lawyer on speed dial).
Bad, you said that RS wasn't listening to you guys but there seems to be an R4 on the way and they put a thank you to you guys on their web site for helping with ideas for improvements Just wanted to add my thanks to theirs. AND...
Bad, when you get your r4s in hand I'll take some of those r3s off your hands when you've done the acceptance testing on the biggest and best version which you gus were instrumental in developing. I've got a couple of boxes of PTBs so 40 or 50 r3s should be plenty, LMK if and how much
Thanks and regards to all through all 4500+ posts(both threads), bikes

 

[Fish Juice]

Well i just got a shipping notice. Kristy was suppose to hold my order for newer revision.
newer revisions cant be ready yet?

 

[badkolo]

The cartos i took the tubes out of have a tube longer then those in the pics above, also the carto had a wire covered in blue, it wasnt a black wire but blue. i sent those to pm2006 so i have no more, but those had the tube wick and those are slightly longer then the typical tube wick. hes not back yet but should be in the morning then ill steal it back and take pics.