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Yes 'br', a short pull works well on these. I find myself going back to longer draws though, old habits are hard to break. People coming right off analogs should like that as mentioned before.

I've been doing short pulls every since July on these things, but what I'm talking about now is very light draws. Make them for as long as you like. The idea is to move the air across the heating coil at a slow rate. This is not like smoking a cigarette. For a second or two you won't feel anything in your mouth, then the heat of the vapor will begin building up to whatever you think you can take.
 

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I've been doing short pulls every since July on these things, but what I'm talking about now is very light draws. Make them for as long as you like. The idea is to move the air across the heating coil at a slow rate. This is not like smoking a cigarette. For a second or two you won't feel anything in your mouth, then the heat of the vapor will begin building up to whatever you think you can take.

Tried it, if i get the balance just right, i get great vape/th/flavor. If i'm off by a bit i sometimes pick up the burnt taste.

Dang, smoking is supposed to be harmful, not complicated..
 

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I've been doing short pulls every since July on these things, but what I'm talking about now is very light draws. Make them for as long as you like. The idea is to move the air across the heating coil at a slow rate. This is not like smoking a cigarette. For a second or two you won't feel anything in your mouth, then the heat of the vapor will begin building up to whatever you think you can take.

Oh, ok. No, I haven't tried that. I probably wouldn't be able to keep that technique up for long but I see your point.
 

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Tried it, if i get the balance just right, i get great vape/th/flavor. If i'm off by a bit i sometimes pick up the burnt taste.

Dang, smoking is supposed to be harmful, not complicated..

I don't get a burnt taste on a 510 battery (about 3.1 volts). What voltage are you vaping?
 

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I soaked my old 808 XL faithful in vodka last week. Today I pulled up the wicks to inspect them. They're quite clean considering over 2 weeks of use. The filler ring looks like 'banjo's old pics so I threw it away and will try a mod. Which one...maybe I'll try cutting the wicks like 'fishjuice' did first and then try the PTB for comparison.

I mentioned needing a light to look into the RS batt...duh..the 'led' provides that. I can see the 'led' bulb when pressing so that chamber is not sealed. Can't tell if it is beyond that or what juice would do to it. It has a 6 second cut off and shuts down for about 7 seconds or so after. Besides that it is a cool concept and a neat thing to have in my collection.
 

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I don't get a burnt taste on a 510 battery (about 3.1 volts). What voltage are you vaping?

Well I get 1.9 volts at the airstem part of the coil while it's lit, but without airflow.

Another observation is that in a dry burn, the coil is orange, we know that, BUT if you blow air directly on the coil WHILE it's orange, it will glow even brighter and brighter.
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But guess what

:sneaky: I did put 4 holes on a short white plug and covered the center hole with part of a toothpick, and I do see more vapor.

This is compared to the originial small white piece with one hole in the center

I just started this experiment, but I do think that it works. If it keeps working I need a better permanent improvement.

I'm not talking about a hollow drip tip either, unless the center of it is plugged. I think what helps is drawing the air from 'around' the center, not from the center itself.
 
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Turbo, as long as the battery is a protected battery, that is even more important.
To find out if the chamber is sealed, simply blow or draw air from the battery itself, there should be no airflow at all on the manual batteries.

If there is, they may have not sealed it with a drop or two of silicone in the hole.
Anyway, where did you get the battery? from e-liquid? I don't see it in e-liquid yet. (royal smokers still says to PRE-order by email)

Any pics of it possible? does the Led look alright? or off center and awful? etc.
 
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Turbo, as long as the battery is a protected battery, that is even more important.
To find out if the chamber is sealed, simply blow or draw air from the battery itself, there should be no airflow at all on the manual batteries.

If there is, they may have not sealed it with a drop or two of silicone in the hole.
Anyway, where did you get the battery? from e-liquid? I don't see it in e-liquid yet. (royal smokers still says to PRE-order by email)

Any pics of it possible? does the Led look alright? or off center and awful? etc.

I got the battery from a vendor testing them. I also see that Vapor Junction has them in a kit. I'm on my way out the door but will try and post some pics soon. The 'led' looks good, it has a see through panel just below the threads w/ their name above that. Since the chamber going to it is open I don't know what juice would do to it (if anything). The light is quite bright so it's hard to tell for sure.
 

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Originally Posted by br5495
I bet I've sucked on more naked ones than you have, heheh. I don't really want anything between my lips and the juice.
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i hate the rings, for some reason they mute the draw or wicking it seems, but i might be crazy and need to test that some more.


I think you all do have a good point, I have been experimenting with mouthpiece 'B' shown below, the pictures show the top and the bottoms of three different mouthpieces.

A= is the top&bottom view of the current mouthpiece that was designed for the ancient filler cartos
B= is the top&bottom view of the one I have been using and getting substantially more vapor
C= is the top&bottom image prototype of what the mod B is attempting to simulate

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.... Since the chamber going to it is open I don't know what juice would do to it (if anything)....

I bought some manual kr808d1 batteries also, and they have the thread connectors of automatic batteries and it ruins the airflow. They are way too airy. The least they could do if they use the automatic connectors to manufacture manual batteries is seal them with some drops of silicone or something safe.

This is not a new problem either. I bought my batteries early in the original big thread, but since you got them from the U.S. I don't know but maybe you should let the vendor know... which doesn't sound like a new problem either, vendors should also know what they're shipping out themselves prior to shipping, as opposed to after they're shipped.
 
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I believe the current of the battery causes the juice to taste burnt, not so much the voltage.

I have a 5volt USB PT and CE2 carto's work great on that. No burnt taste at all (no problem vaping for 3-4 seconds).

But at the same time I have a 3.7v KR808D-1 Battery and the juice burns very easily (anything over 1 second burns).
 

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Well amps=volts/ohms

If you must use the volts that you bought from your battery supplier, but you want to change the amps, then the only option you left yourself is to change the ohms.

If you want more amps you can lower the ohms, if you want less amps you can raise the ohms
(do this if you intend to keep the volts at what your particular battery insists)
 
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Well amps=volts/ohms

If you must use the volts that you bought from your battery supplier, but you want to change the amps, then the only option you left yourself is to change the ohms.

If you want more amps you can lower the ohms, if you want less amps you can raise the ohms
(do this if you intend to keep the volts at what your particular battery insists)

thats where banjo and the rest where right, use a variable device mod and you can find the perfect voltage for the e2 being used.
i hit the sweet spot of 5 e2's yesterday and i was very impressed.
 
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