E2 Cartomizer Technical Discussion

[zoiDman]

Do your Carto's have the Primer Liquid as well?

Most flavors are unvapable if I don't clean out the Primer first.

I hope someone who is in contact with the manufacture will post what this Liquid is and why it is inside of these Cartos.

Possible problem: My XL 808D has started "gurgling" pretty frequently.
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Anyone else had this problem?

Yes a couple of my KR808's have gurgled/flooded for no apparent reason as well.
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The 510 that I was using yesterday did that,

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The KR8 cartomizer that I am testing is giving this problem.

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Automatic Battery Warning:

I stumbled out of bed this mourning and reached for my PV. When I took the first hit I got a mouth full of juice. The Carto had leaked and had flooded both the mouth piece and the battery. Looks like my Automatic eGo battery is Dead. Great.

If you use Automatic batteries you should Not leave these E2 cartos attached to the battery when not in use.

 

[zoiDman]

"wicking too much" ?????? That's like too much hard disk, desk space or money. there is never enough wicking is there.

Too Much Wicking just Killed my eGo Battery.

 

[badkolo]

I hope someone who is in contact with the manufacture will post what this Liquid is and why it is inside of these Cartos.









Automatic Battery Warning:

I stumbled out of bed this mourning and reached for my PV. When I took the first hit I got a mouth full of juice. The Carto had leaked and had flooded both the mouth piece and the battery. Looks like my Automatic eGo battery is Dead. Great.

If you use Automatic Batteries you should Not leave these E2 cartos attached to the battery when not in use.

I just decided to use my old school carto with filller and after about 2 hours the fillr inside is burnt, what do i do???? help.

And i have another issue as well, i was trying to use my 510 atomizers from health cabin and they are full of this liquid i think is primer, every atomizer is like this, what do i do??

oh god my 901 atomizer from puresmoker is leaking, oh god oh lord what do i do.

i can go on and on.

now the leaking i have nothing to say about that, that needs to be fixed like they said they will.

 

[br5495]

"wicking too much" ?????? That's like too much hard disk, desk space or money. there is never enough wicking is there.

I have an older type E2 with narrow slits that wicks juice into the cup while it is not in use. That is, while it is standing upright with the filler ring removed. It does not leak when the filler ring is installed and properly seated.

I am running this test right now with a 510 XL. Its threaded fitting is standing on a glass top desk. I see a small puddle of juice around it. It remains to be seen how much it will leak before it stops. On the older E2, it emptied about half of the reservoir.

 

[kwcharlie]

THANKS Got it, Mechanical (moisture) damage, hay excuse to buy a better PV isn’t it, can’t run on the cutting edge without being cut.

 

[kwcharlie]

Wouldn’t it be nice if this work all of you are doing was like prototype testing of a product you (or the company you work for) was going to profit from? I bet the Chinese, who are watching this like I watch gCaptain, won’t even think of PIF for all the work you are doing for them. You can be sure the ECF community will know and remember what is going on here a few months from now when these E2’s become the standard. Big THANK YOU from me.

 

[Turbo]

I don't have any trouble rinsing them with the filler cap in place, but the dry burn takes longer because the moisture can't escape as readily. If you have to, just soak them for a few minutes.

So it's ok to dry burn w/ the filler plug in? Wouldn't the heat melt the silicone? Just curious, it'd be nice to leave it in. It seems like they may leak w/o it:

I have an older type E2 with narrow slits that wicks juice into the cup while it is not in use. That is, while it is standing upright with the filler ring removed. It does not leak when the filler ring is installed and properly seated.

I am running this test right now with a 510 XL. Its threaded fitting is standing on a glass top desk. I see a small puddle of juice around it. It remains to be seen how much it will leak before it stops. On the older E2, it emptied about half of the reservoir.

The XL you're testing that leaks, is that w/o the filler ring? I hope these don't turn out to be leaky. From what 'bad' says some do while others don't. It would be nice to determine why. If it's as simple as leaving the filler ring in I'll do that.

 

[Scottbee]

I just decided to use my old school carto with filller and after about 2 hours the fillr inside is burnt, what do i do???? help.

And i have another issue as well, i was trying to use my 510 atomizers from health cabin and they are full of this liquid i think is primer, every atomizer is like this, what do i do??

oh god my 901 atomizer from puresmoker is leaking, oh god oh lord what do i do.

i can go on and on.

Geee... what a helpful and informative post.

 

[zoiDman]

I just decided to use my old school carto with filller and after about 2 hours the fillr inside is burnt, what do i do???? help.

And i have another issue as well, i was trying to use my 510 atomizers from health cabin and they are full of this liquid i think is primer, every atomizer is like this, what do i do??

oh god my 901 atomizer from puresmoker is leaking, oh god oh lord what do i do.

i can go on and on.

now the leaking i have nothing to say about that, that needs to be fixed like they said they will.

So It sounds like we should just kick the Entire myster fluid thing under the rug.

Maybe I'm picky. But If I'm going to vape something I would at least like to know what it is.

 

[Scottbee]

So it's ok to dry burn w/ the filler plug in? Wouldn't the heat melt the silicone? Just curious, it'd be nice to leave it in. It seems like they may leak w/o it:

Generally speaking, silicone is a high-temp / very-high-temp material (there are certainly variations though).

I've done a couple of dry-burns myself and haven't seen any issues with the E2 rings.

 

[Scottbee]

I hope someone who is in contact with the manufacture will post what this Liquid is and why it is inside of these Cartos.









Automatic Battery Warning:

I stumbled out of bed this mourning and reached for my PV. When I took the first hit I got a mouth full of juice. The Carto had leaked and had flooded both the mouth piece and the battery. Looks like my Automatic eGo battery is Dead. Great.

If you use Automatic Batteries you should Not leave these E2 cartos attached to the battery when not in use.

Begs the obvious question...

Did the "leaking" occur because the cartomizer "over-wicked" and a form of a "siphon" deposited all of the liquid into the center air-pathway.

Or... was there a leak at the base of the reservoir which allowed the liquid to seep out into the pathway.

One would be indicative if a design issue.. the other more of a manufacturing problem.

 

[br5495]

The XL you're testing that leaks, is that w/o the filler ring? I hope these don't turn out to be leaky. From what 'bad' says some do while others don't. It would be nice to determine why. If it's as simple as leaving the filler ring in I'll do that.

Yes, the filler ring is removed. Hopefully, it will not leak with the filler ring installed. That is, WITH IT PROPERLY SEATED.

I still have a lot of testing to do. I suspect there is more than one reason for some of the XL's to leak.

 

[Turbo]

Generally speaking, silicone is a high-temp / very-high-temp material (there are certainly variations though).

I've done a couple of dry-burns myself and haven't seen any issues with the E2 rings.

Thanks, good to know, I'll leave the filler ring in when I get mine.

Yes, the filler ring is removed. Hopefully, it will not leak with the filler ring installed. That is, WITH IT PROPERLY SEATED.

I still have a lot of testing to do. I suspect there is more than one reason for some of the XL's to leak.

Thanks, definitely keep us posted. What other reasons do you suspect?

 

[badkolo]

theres a difference between trying to figure out the problems and getting them fixed but going by some peoples posts here it seems more like trolling then observations of issues that need to be dealt with.

mentioning a problem that needs to be fixed is great , acting like no other cartomizer or atomizer has these same issues till today is trolling.


Anyway everyones samples and juices has been shipped, i even shipped some for the trolls.

 

[br5495]

Thanks, definitely keep us posted. What other reasons do you suspect?

The silicone grommet in the threaded fitting.

 

[badkolo]

Begs the obvious question...

Did the "leaking" occur because the cartomizer "over-wicked" and a form of a "siphon" deposited all of the liquid into the center air-pathway.

Or... was there a leak at the base of the reservoir which allowed the liquid to seep out into the pathway.

One would be indicative if a design issue.. the other more of a manufacturing problem.

Scott i asked for you and the answer was its at the base, if he explains to me exactly what was wrong and what was fixed (if it was) then ill let ya know the second i find out, i hvae some that leak like a siv, while others are bone dry and perfect while others i get a little spatter here n there.

 

[zoiDman]

Begs the obvious question...

Did the "leaking" occur because the cartomizer "over-wicked" and a form of a "siphon" deposited all of the liquid into the center air-pathway.

Or... was there a leak at the base of the reservoir which allowed the liquid to seep out into the pathway.

One would be indicative if a design issue.. the other more of a manufacturing problem.

Bingo…

That’s why I like reading your posts Scottbee. I don’t get some Salesman answer but something that is meaningful.

I’m going to do a vertical test the Carto that ruined my battery. If it leaks with the mouth piece up then it is should be the reservoir seal. If it doesn’t then it should be the seal assembly at the ceramic cup.

Kwcharlie – I think your starting to get it. Why do in-house beta testing and have to pay testers when you can have all these nice members of the ECF do it for you?

And the Beautiful thing about it is you can make money on the sales all the while. I bet RoyalSmokers / e-Liquid.cn is laughing in there sleeves every time the read this thread.

Maybe RoyalSmokers advertising department can use this as their new ad complain. Just replace the words “Windows 7” with “E2 Cartomizers”

YouTube - Apple ad: Broken Promises

 

[br5495]

Scott i asked for you and the answer was its at the base, if he explains to me exactly what was wrong and what was fixed (if it was) then ill let ya know the second i find out, i hvae some that leak like a siv, while others are bone dry and perfect while others i get a little spatter here n there.

Every since I saw that there was no silicone filler in the base, I suspected there would problems. Not only with leaking, but mechanical problems too.

 

[badkolo]

Heres the thing zoid, cartos with filler burn and that cant be good for you nor do they taste good with filler.

cartridges arent any better and suck.

then im left with dripping and im sick of dripping all day.

I dont have the ability to build the big tank autofeed systems and WHEN I TRIED TO BUY THEM ALL I GOT WAS THE RUN AROUND since they either dont sell it or its thier own project.

SO that leaves me with little choice, do i start smoking analogs again and quit vaping becuase im done with modded catridges and cartomizer and im sick of dripping.

SO instead I gave in and hoped the e2 would be the ticket, i said i have the funds to stick this out if there is potentail, and the potential is there, so ill be the guiness pig and beta tester and we have mentioned the original batches where not ready for prime time yet many people still bought them because they are adults and can do so if they wish, this site is for adults only.

NOw the first few revisions had few good ones but the others had issues and glue and so on. maybe they arent testing them and i suspect they arent and we are doing the testing, so be it if in the end we get a product that removes the need for dripping and so on.

in my videos i never pointed out the negatives because they wherent reviews and i never claimed that they where reviews but in my posts i have brought up everything bad about them but people overlook that and only point out how excited we are over these, if you had a good working one youd be excited too if you arent biased.

when I do review these you will here the good and bad thats for sure but there is no reason to try to kill the e2 especially when old cartos burn, no one has found a perfect carto yet and there is a thread 200 pages long stiull looking for the perfect filler carto.

atomizer leak and i hate dripping. so since no one has perfected those things yet in 2 years now I figured ill stick with the e2 and get these in tip top shape even if i have to take crap for it by other members.

insinuations are insinuations and im no dummy.

it sound slike some want these to fail instead of pointing out issues and trying to fix them. being a negative nilly gets us no where.

 

[br5495]

I’m going to do a vertical test the Carto that ruined my battery. If it leaks with the mouth piece up then it is should be the reservoir seal. If it doesn’t then it should be the seal assembly at the ceramic cup.

Now that you are testing like the rest of us, are you going to post the results on this forum? If you do, then RoyalSmokers / e-Liquid.cn may laugh in their sleeves when they read this thread.