E2 Cartomizer Technical Discussion

[bassthumper]

I didn't know the inner ring has to be kept on the ceramic. I don't like the taste of a dry wick, so what do you think I should after I put it back on?

I take my inner ring out each time I fill these up.
I've yet to use a syringe to fill mine. I just pull out the inner ring and drip down the side carefully enough not to get any in the cup and I'm squared away!
so NO, you don't have to keep it on the cup but it's a good idea to put it back when you're done

 

[br5495]

br, I believe they're talking about the middle o-ring. That one goes flat side down.

okay..... I thought everyone threw that one away, heheh.

 

[PattyR]

You may very well have a leak, so I am not questioning that. However, when I use my modified tips, a good bit of moisture condenses inside. It looks almost like my juice, feels like my juice, but it does not taste like my raw juice. Most of what I taste is sweet vegetable glycerin with no bitter nicotine. I never saw this much condensation until I began using the E2. I haven't seen anyone else mention this, so maybe it's just my juice and tips that are doing this.

Good point, br. Condensation may be exactly what I found. In any case, so far I'm pleased with the performance of these cartos. They sure beat the heck out of cartos with filler.

 

[br5495]

I take my inner ring out each time I fill these up.
I've yet to use a syringe to fill mine. I just pull out the inner ring and drip down the side carefully enough not to get any in the cup and I'm squared away!
so NO, you don't have to keep it on the cup but it's a good idea to put it back when you're done

This is all in fun. I'm picking at v1John, but he don't know it, heheh.

 

[K24A3]

These things can leak quite badly. I filled ten of them last night and today four of them have leaked excessively, and the rest of them seem to flood at random times. I need to blow out the excess liquid into a tissue to get them vaping again.
Both Rubber Sleeves have liquid around the sides, and coil is flooded so maybe its leaking via the Wick or inner cap.

As for the flavor, half of them taste bad due to the Primer liquid. Even after soaking them in hot water, the flavor still doesn't seem right. Removing the middle silicon seal doesn't seem to make any difference.

I guess I received a batch of the original Ceramics rather than the newer Revision3 ones.

 

[badkolo]

try placing the inner plug you refill in backwards, so the part that usualy sits on the cup turn it upside down and try that without the middle oring.

im not getting leaking verticly and it vapes better on the 510 xl doing that

someone please try that, cause i just did that on 3 xl 510;s and now it tastes better like when i have no refilling plug but with it on stopping the juice from leaking to my mouth.

it seems to cover the cup so no juice leaks yet since its not cupping the cup then its not pressing against the wick???

justy saw your post above, sorry to hear that, dont know what to tell ya. let them know that your not happy and see if they exchange them for you.

 

[v1John]

oh ok, well I found out now, Br.

 

[br5495]

Good point, br. Condensation may be exactly what I found. In any case, so far I'm pleased with the performance of these cartos. They sure beat the heck out of cartos with filler.

If the taste is sweet, it's VG. If not, you have a leak.

Yep, I'm sold on these things too. I'll let you have all my old stuff if you want it.

 

[K24A3]

I'll try installing the inner seal backwards on my KR808 XL's. Being XL, I just hope the inner tube is stable enough without the support from the inner cap shoulder.

 

[br5495]

try placing the inner plug you refill in backwards, so the part that usualy sits on the cup turn it upside down and try that without the middle oring.

LOL. ........ I was already doing that yesterday on a 510. And yes, it works pretty good. Hell of a lot easier to get in there, ain't it?

 

[v1John]

...So the cup is fine, though I wonder what a little ridge around the drain would do to help keep liquid from going down the drain towards the thread connector? It may work to an extent, preventing up to 1 to 3 drops from going down the drain so easily. other thoughts about it?...

Ok, well I have not looked at the ceramic cups yet, but I'm looking at a plastic one and the air stem does protrude into the cup, so it may be that the ceramic does too. It should. Does anyone know yet?

That's the drain. So that helps the drain area, for when there are 2 to 4 drops in the cup.

 

[rbonie]

I'm starting to develop an interesting problem... lots of loose cartos of different types lying around - all working - all good. I hesitate opening any more of these for testing because my whole desk is starting to get kinda messy. I'm even starting to have problems deciding what to take with me to work in the mornings.

I guess it's a nice problem to have though, no?

A CLEAN DESK???!!!! U must be out yo mind!!!!

(Uh I must be doin sumthin wrong)

 

[br5495]

oh ok, well I found out now, Br.

It takes people a while to learn my sense of humor, John. Vaping is fun and I'm trying to keep it that way.

 

[badkolo]

Ok, well I have not looked at the ceramic cups yet, but I'm looking at a plastic one and the air stem does protrude into the cup, so it may be that the ceramic does too. It should. Does anyone know yet?

That's the drain. So that helps the drain area, for when there are 2 to 4 drops in the cup.

the ceramic sits on the stem better then the plastic, its almost impossible to remove it off the stem unlike th eplastic cup that slid right off.

im thinking this, the slots or slits where the wick goes in might be to wide or either just needs to be closed at the top almost like the original first design where there is no slits but this time a bigger hole for the wick, the original first design had a tight hole and was sufficating the wick on some and thats why we wanted a wider slit.

Now while that might be a reason it doesnt fully make sence for it to be the slits since the ones that leak will leak even if there is no juice at the slits point, meaning no juice at the line of the slits for it to go into the cup.

so that means to me only one thing and thats the base of the carto, the bottom where the stem is attached to a gromet and the base. They said they noticed this and cought it and made adjustments which if true means that many shouldnt leak if they fixed it and i have many that have no leaking so then that means they mixed in the ones they already made and shovled them out to us mixed in with the ones the fixed the leaks on.

thats the only thing i can think of, it does not look like it going into the stem form the cup area , it seems as its leaking form the bottom around the stem base on the ones that leak.


RBONIE:: call a hazmat team fast cause there has been an explosion on your desk, holy moly man.lol

 

[badkolo]

It takes people a while to learn my sense of humor, John. Vaping is fun and I'm trying to keep it that way.

what was fun was keeping you waiting for 3 days

 

[v1John]

You may be right, bad, and I hope the adjustments took care of it.
The 2 to 4 drops I only get during an overfill, I still have not had a leaky carto due to malfunction.

The slots could indeed be reconverted to wick ports, but this could make them cost almost as much as my old filler cartos did months ago. Maybe it's time to make the slots narrow once again again, though only on the top part of the cup, and NOT at the bottom of the slots where the wick goes in and out of the cup...Sounds like a good idea

 

[badkolo]

You may be right, bad, and I hope the adjustments took care of it.
The 2 to 4 drops I only get during an overfill, I still have not had a leaky carto due to malfunction.

The slots could indeed be reconverted to wick ports, but this could make them cost almost as much as my old filler cartos did months ago. Maybe it's time to make the slots narrow once again again, though only on the top part of the cup, and NOT at the bottom of the slots where the wick goes in and out of the cup...Sounds like a good idea

exactly, only at the top but still as wide , enough room for the wick.

i dont see why the price needs to change, all they need to do is make a new mold of the cup where the top of the slits are closed off, raising prices will only scare people off. its not like they hit these out the ballpark 2 months ago, its been a work in progress so they should be carefull with raising prices becuase they have to fix what should have been fixed.

right now they need to do a few things.
1. remove the primer. I know not all have it but none should have it.
2. fix the leaking issue that some have(unless the new run is already fixed).
and make sure we get the ohms we ordered.
3. some mentioned they found some with damaged threads( i dont hear it that often now but the threads need to be checked.

 

[badkolo]

You may be right, bad, and I hope the adjustments took care of it.
The 2 to 4 drops I only get during an overfill, I still have not had a leaky carto due to malfunction.

The slots could indeed be reconverted to wick ports, but this could make them cost almost as much as my old filler cartos did months ago. Maybe it's time to make the slots narrow once again again, though only on the top part of the cup, and NOT at the bottom of the slots where the wick goes in and out of the cup...Sounds like a good idea

but when we place the inner plug properly isnt it actually doing what we are saying, closing off the top of the open slits, if so then maybe they arent the main issue and only a little seapage or spattering is happening in that case.

i will test this, cut a few in half and fill liquid up to where i cut it and see if it leaks, if it leaks then its the base where the stem meats the base, if it does not leak then its form the top of the stem????? or if it does not leak then it doesnt leak, i dont think it has 2 issues with leaking

 

[bassthumper]

try placing the inner plug you refill in backwards, so the part that usualy sits on the cup turn it upside down and try that without the middle oring.

im not getting leaking verticly and it vapes better on the 510 xl doing that

someone please try that, cause i just did that on 3 xl 510;s and now it tastes better like when i have no refilling plug but with it on stopping the juice from leaking to my mouth.

it seems to cover the cup so no juice leaks yet since its not cupping the cup then its not pressing against the wick???

justy saw your post above, sorry to hear that, dont know what to tell ya. let them know that your not happy and see if they exchange them for you.

Thank you for that Bad

 

[Michelle M]

I had some original E2's and wasn't very impressed with them. Too much of the tasting of the wick material or something.

I tried to buy some of the ceramic E2's from Ken but even though the site said they were available, they had vanished. I've been most anxious to try them so ordered a few "kits" instead from Ken. He kindly shipped them in like 2 minutes. Regrettably they're prefilled with the Chinese version of Marlboro, which tastes like old shoe. The one I opened had leaked inside its plastic mini-baggie. Excellent -- less gack juice to be rid of.

I find refilling to be a bit vexing because if there's the slightest bit of moisture it's really hard to see the little holes where the needle tip goes in.

However, if I dab a bit of paper towel down there I can locate them again and fill'erup.

I haven't had any trouble re-situating the little silicone ring.

I haven't had any leakage at all. I'm vaping on one fill close to half a day before considering a refill. I'm with Bad; only like a few flavors of carts and mostly would use em, then drip on them till they began tasting ack. Then toss and start over. I did feel like I was dripping most of the day.

I do feel like these things, or some incarnation of them, is the future of vaping. Can't wait to get my hands on some XL ones. Thanks for this informative thread and the other E2 whopper thread.