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I like this line of thought. I think a lot of people will prefer to use these with a mouthpiece (driptip) that protrudes above the can (at least I do). If that mouthpiece also served as the seal over the reservoir... that would be great. Pull the mouthpiece off, refill, plug it back on, and vape away.
I believe I could make one that would do this. I won't do it with this version though. It will have to be designed for the ceramic cup. That is, if that type is successful enough to warrant it.

Right now I am only using the mouthpiece. About 1/8" of the tube is not being used and I am thinking about cutting it off. I am using a wood screw to pull the mouthpiece out and put it back in. The whole refill process is faster and easier than the old type cartomizer.
 
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Neat idea, but I notice that the inner caps on most of these "snap in" when you reseat them. You think you can get a tight seal at the cup and still have it easy to pull out for refilling?

p.s. I just lost two 510's back to back while dry burning (probably their fifth-sixth cleaning). While robust, sadly they're apparently not indestructable. ;)
 

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Neat idea, but I notice that the inner caps on most of these "snap in" when you reseat them. You think you can get a tight seal at the cup and still have it easy to pull out for refilling?

p.s. I just lost two 510's back to back while dry burning (probably their fifth-sixth cleaning). While robust, sadly they're apparently not indestructable. ;)
I have noticed that some plastic filler rings snap in. I think it is because the fit is too tight, causing the rim of the cup to snap when it gives way. The mouthpiece on mine is a perfect fit on the cup. It goes on easy and comes off easy. I have only tried it on two though, so it may not fit that well on all E2's. So far, mine do not leak.

Heck, try one of yours and see. It won't take but a few seconds to remove the ring and cram the mouthpiece down in there.

I have only lost one of mine during a burn. I don't think I would have lost it had I cleaned it sooner. The crud on mine was very hard. So hard that the coil could not burn it off. Naturally I kept trying and it died a tortured death. Look at the photo of it a few posts back ----> #34. That's what it looked like after all those burns. I am cleaning mine more often now and getting a clean burn. We are still learning about these things, so there is no telling what we can expect from them.

Edit - I forgot. On one of mine, I shortened the tube and now the end of the mouthpiece is exposed.
 
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One question I had about the photo in post #34.

The wick appears to be discolored on one side only. Am I safe to assume that the discoloring is from e-Juice and that only one wide if the wick was wet?
The white part of the wick on the left is the result of heating it with a torch. This was done to illustrate that the wick does not burn. It gets red hot and cools to snow white.
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br , i got that slit distortion with no CAP ON THE cup at all, the longer i would fire it up the plastic by the lits was thinning out and warping, i watched this happen on 5 of them that i cut open. i can record it for you, its not pretty.

i REALLY WANT THE CERAMICS.
There is no need to record it bad, I believe you. They don't all do that under normal use, though. A few minutes ago I filled one for my wife after inspecting it. It has not distorted yet and the filler ring still needs extra pressure to snap it all the way down.

I don't just want ceramics. I want ceramics that will hold more juice:)
 

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yeah clouds of vapor is getting the ceramics go look at their page

That says they will be getting them tomorow.
not today.
Its possible they get it tomorow but samples just shipped friday or saturday from what i know so I personally dont think tuesday either.

Oh and im not trying to say cov is lying or aything like that.
its that certain people where told the samples were shipped yet no tracking was given. so its anyones guess unless they have tracking.

then again, if they are a vendor, maybe they are dealing with royal smokers directly and then that would make my point moot.
 
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I have noticed that some plastic filler rings snap in. I think it is because the fit is too tight, causing the rim of the cup to snap when it gives way. The mouthpiece on mine is a perfect fit on the cup. It goes on easy and comes off easy. I have only tried it on two though, so it may not fit that well on all E2's. So far, mine do not leak.

Heck, try one of yours and see. It won't take but a few seconds to remove the ring and cram the mouthpiece down in there.

I have only lost one of mine during a burn. I don't think I would have lost it had I cleaned it sooner. The crud on mine was very hard. So hard that the coil could not burn it off. Naturally I kept trying and it died a tortured death. Look at the photo of it a few posts back ----> #34. That's what it looked like after all those burns. I am cleaning mine more often now and getting a clean burn. We are still learning about these things, so there is no telling what we can expect from them.

Edit - I forgot. On one of mine, I shortened the tube and now the end of the mouthpiece is exposed.

The only problem I have with cramming the mouthpiece in there is that it's made of a fairly soft rubber. I'm afraid as hot as the coil gets it might melt the rubber and not taste so good. :blink:

I think the inner rings that "don't" snap in are a result of the cup being perfectly round. If it's off any at all the ring has to force itself over the cup *snap*.
 

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The only problem I have with cramming the mouthpiece in there is that it's made of a fairly soft rubber. I'm afraid as hot as the coil gets it might melt the rubber and not taste so good. :blink:

I think the inner rings that "don't" snap in are a result of the cup being perfectly round. If it's off any at all the ring has to force itself over the cup *snap*.
I was not afraid to try it on two of mine, :). Mine did not melt and the taste has not changed. Maybe if I abused them it would. I have not tried them on a voltage higher than a KR8 battery.

The true diameter of the cup can be determined from the lower part of the cup. Look at the one on post #34 again. Look at the tube on the bottom of it. The hole in the center of the plastic filler ring is a perfect fit on this tube. I put a ring on the tube and tried to make it go on the bottom of the cup. It will not fit. The recess in the ring is too small. The only way for the ring to *snap* would be for it to break. I found this out a few days ago and that is why I began looking for something to fit the cup.

Edit - This experiment is not meant to be a fix, but it's beginning to look like a temporary fix for an E2 with narrow slits.
 
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That says they will be getting them tomorow.
not today.
Its possible they get it tomorow but samples just shipped friday or saturday from what i know so I personally dont think tuesday either.

Oh and im not trying to say cov is lying or aything like that.
its that certain people where told the samples were shipped yet no tracking was given. so its anyones guess unless they have tracking.

then again, if they are a vendor, maybe they are dealing with royal smokers directly and then that would make my point moot.
yeah bad I think you're right my brain must hear what it wants to hear
I read that email Bruce sent me again and it says monday OR TUESDAY
I'm thinking it will be Tuesday :)
 

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unless someone has a secret shipment of the ceramics on the way i think its gonna be a few more days before we can know if they are good.


My Aug. 1st order was to be shipped Saturday and was not. I e-mailed and here is the response:

[FONT=宋体]Dear James,[/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]Thanks for your letter![/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]I am very sorry that The supplier has delayed the raw materials!Sorry for the troubles!When the raw materials come back,i will arrange for you right now![/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]Best wishes[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]Linda[/FONT]
 

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I was not afraid to try it on two of mine, :). Mine did not melt and the taste has not changed. Maybe if I abused them it would. I have not tried them on a voltage higher than a KR8 battery.

The true diameter of the cup can be determined from the lower part of the cup. Look at the one on post #34 again. Look at the tube on the bottom of it. The hole in the center of the plastic filler ring is a perfect fit on this tube. I put a ring on the tube and tried to make it go on the bottom of the cup. It will not fit. The recess in the ring is too small. The only way for the ring to *snap* would be for it to break. I found this out a few days ago and that is why I began looking for something to fit the cup.

Edit - This experiment is not meant to be a fix, but it's beginning to look like a temporary fix for me.

What did you use to make a clean cut when you shortened your carto a tad... mini pipe cutter?

I'm playing with several 510's here that have an inner cap that fits snug and require a little extra effort to "snap" them into place. Neither has a deformed or bent/broken cup and the slots look perfect. I'm guessing the cups themselves might be a little off-center and since the tops are fairly flexible they just bend to the will of the inner ring when it's pushed over it.
 

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My Aug. 1st order was to be shipped Saturday and was not. I e-mailed and here is the response:

[FONT=宋体]Dear James,[/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]Thanks for your letter![/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]I am very sorry that The supplier has delayed the raw materials!Sorry for the troubles!When the raw materials come back,i will arrange for you right now![/FONT]

[FONT=宋体]Best wishes[/FONT]
[FONT=宋体]Linda[/FONT]

I was told by Linda that If I wanted Ceramic's, that they would not be able to ship until the end of this week.
 

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What did you use to make a clean cut when you shortened your carto a tad... mini pipe cutter?

I'm playing with several 510's here that have an inner cap that fits snug and require a little extra effort to "snap" them into place. Neither has a deformed or bent/broken cup and the slots look perfect. I'm guessing the cups themselves might be a little off-center and since the tops are fairly flexible they just bend to the will of the inner ring when it's pushed over it.
I used a bench grinder. Fine grit. Trial and error until the length was correct. Trued it up on the flat side of the stone. Lightly buffed the burr off with the wire wheel.

Believe it or not, but my thoughts were the same as yours, until I had the mating parts in my hand and could see what was really happening.
 

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This is the one I cut off. The tip of the mouthpiece is visible and it is the only removable part. It does not require a syringe to fill. The battery is a KR8 with a 510 adapter.

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About the one with the narrow slits. When it is assembled as per original, it wicks ok with cigarette type puffs. It does not wick well with heavy use. However, it can be vaped a good bit harder with the filler ring removed. This is because there is no ring to compress the slits. When a rubber mouthpiece is used instead of a ring, it does not compress the slits. Therefore, this arrangement wicks better than the original configuration.
 
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