Ebay Prohibits e-cigarette devices and accessories

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DEATHTOCIGS

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I was shocked when I discovered e-bay no longer permits the sale of electronic cigarettes, accessories, or e-liquid. They have e-cigs classified under "tobacco" products. How do the crazies get these big companies to adopt these ridiculous policies? I guess in the end, e-bay only hurts itself as there are plenty of online outlets for the products. It still pisses me off.
 

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How do the crazies get these big companies to adopt these ridiculous policies?
Action on Smoking and Health (ASH) takes credit for this policy.
They sent a legal letter to PayPal.com warning the company of potential liability for selling electronic cigarettes.

Here is the letter they sent to Amazon...

As the legal-action antismoking organization whose legal complaints [1] about the facilitation – by credit card companies and others – of the illegal Internet sales of cigarettes led to a crackdown by many attorneys general, [2] we write to advise your company of its potential legal liability related to its continuing sale of e-cigarettes.

As noted in an NPR piece [3] in which I participated, the FDA has clearly announced that “e-cigarettes are subject to FDA approval as a drug or medical device, much like nicotine patches, gums and inhalers — and therefore they are illegal until they are cleared.”[4] [emphasis added] Despite this, Amazon.com is continuing to sell these devices in interstate commerce, and in apparent violation of consumer protection laws in many individual states.[5]

Recently ASH wrote to all 50 attorneys general asking them to take legal action against the illegal sales of such products. To date, at least one state has forced two different companies to cease selling these illegal products. PayPal, after being warned by ASH, has stopped facilitating their sale, and Facebook is refusing their ads.[6]

As the FDA [7] and others [8] have noted, e-cigarettes pose a wide variety of potential dangers to users,[9] and perhaps also to those around them, both of whom inhale a mixture of nicotine (a dangerous addictive drug) and propylene glycol (which is used in antifreeze and may cause respiratory tract irritation). Thus, in addition to liability for selling an illegal product, Amazon.com might well be named as a defendant should an e-cigarette user or a family member claim that some medical problem was caused by an e-cigarette allegedly sold by Amazon.com.

If Paypal truly took these actions because of ASH, then their policy is now based on outdated information.
Perhaps they should reconsider.
 

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As to ASH. It does go to show, that you should never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups ;)

I really think we're just at the tip of the iceberg right now. And we will be facing quite an uphill battle as the governments and pharma companies etc feel more and more lost income from tobacco and NRT sales. If I were to guess, I would say it won't be pretty. But I could be wrong, people all over the world are so used to just shrugging their shoulders and sayin "well schucks, I wish they hadn't changed that law.." . I hope the best for vaping, and For all of you ;)
 

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Well E Bay and PayPal are gonna lose a lot of money, aren't they. No more 'seller' or 'transfer' fees and how many of us now vape and are potential buyers? I have used PayPal, and recently, to pay for cartos, mods, etc. Perhaps they don't know what they really are at PayPal.

As to E Bay I got a nice wooden box (cigar humidor) today to convert to an electronic hookah box. One that I will just plug into the wall and vape away without having to change batteries etc. Going to max it at 6 volts I think, though I could go to 11.5 or so if I chose. I also buy kanthal and wick from E Bay sellers to rebuild my atties.

Wonder if it would do any good for CASAA to write both entities with the truth.
 

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I have used PayPal, and recently, to pay for cartos, mods, etc. Perhaps they don't know what they really are at PayPal.
Paypal, outside of the United States, does not have a policy against electronic cigarettes.
That is why international companies take Paypal still, even if they have a presence in the United States.

The two that come to mind are Liberty Flights and Totally Wicked.
They are both headquartered in the UK and have a presence in the United States as well.

And their United States websites still take Paypal.
 

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Paypal, outside of the United States, does not have a policy against electronic cigarettes.
That is why international companies take Paypal still, even if they have a presence in the United States.

The two that come to mind are Liberty Flights and Totally Wicked.
They are both headquartered in the UK and have a presence in the United States as well.

And their United States websites still take Paypal.

I don't use either company. The people I buy from are all based in the US, both juice, accessories and mods.
 
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