Ecig Exploded

[Bad Ninja]

Imagine that an accident in this day and age. Accidents happen, analyze it all you want.

Using the wrong gear whether intentionally or out of sheer ignorance just isn't an accident.
It's a willful bad choice.
Accidents are things beyond our control.
Thousands of vapers use mechs safely every day without issues.
Every instance of a mechanical mod "exploding" has been a vaper using the wrong gear.

 

[suprtrkr]

While that sounds good, that is the whole purpose of True Hybrids. tank and Mod Matched.
Quasi-Hybrids are the ones with Center hole Caps and for experienced users, are as safe as any other Mechanical Mod of similar design.
* I say similar as there are many variations in Manufacture.
Venting
Switch
Material and thickness
Thread patterns

The True key to Safety is education.
The educated person will not choose to use a Mechanical Mod in a manor to promote self inflicted pain.

**Point:
Ordered my first 4Nine, even after hearing tails of auto firing and Venting batteries. Read all I could find about the mod before it arrived.
Studied the mod and did some measuring/test fitting once received.

I found 1/2 the owners were Clueless as to why they had the problems they complained about. Simply due to not being prepared for this type of equipment.
I have (2) 4Nine quasi-hybrids and never have issues with either because I pay attention to their design parameters and Battery safety.

By Education I do mean SELF Education. One must Desire to become Aware.

Doubtless. I have two true hybrid attys myself.

 

[suprtrkr]

I'm not saying this wouldn't help alleviate the "problem," but it would defeat the purpose of the "hybrid-style" top caps. They exist so that you can make "any" atomizer attain the hybrid look with your mod.

True. And good news.

 

[Bad Ninja]

There is no way to make a mechanical mod safe for careless/beginner/ uninformed vapers.

You can't teach safe mech mod use with a warning label or instruction booklet.

Rule of thumb for life:
Before sticking something in your mouth, do a bit of research and be sure you are safe.

 

[Stinkytofus]

Stores needs to stop selling mechs... And to minors... You are giving people reasons to regulate you more

 

[DC2]

Ignorance is not the same as stupidity. It may not even be ignorance though, probably more like forgetfully carefree? I'm firmly in the camp that something like this IS user error, but I don't think stupidity is the cause.

Glad to hear you're not one of the folks that would say he is stupid.
But I didn't think you were.

I'm not saying this wouldn't help alleviate the "problem," but it would defeat the purpose of the "hybrid-style" top caps. They exist so that you can make "any" atomizer attain the hybrid look with your mod.

Can you (or anyone) tell me what this "hybrid look" thing is?
I keep seeing it, but haven't got a clue.

 

[Tonkpils]

Stores needs to stop selling mechs... And to minors... You are giving people reasons to regulate you more

That line of thinking is one step away from a total ban.

 

[Lessifer]

@DC2
Non hybrid, you can see where the mod ends and the atomizer begins, usually there are some air paths visible in the mod top cap, from back in the day when you needed airflow between the mod and atomizer for some of them.

"hybrid" look is more sleek and uninterrupted, even if the atomizer doesn't necessarily match:

 

[ReigntheGamer]

Question: Is there, or what is the advantage to using a hybrid rather than a standard 510?

I know what they are and how they function, but for the life of me can't figure out why using one would produce any better results than using the much safer standard 510.

Edited: Seems Lessifer answered that, it looks better but at the risk of being immensely more dangerous in the wrong hands.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Question: Is there, or what is the advantage to using a hybrid rather than a standard 510?

I know what they are and how they function, but for the life of me can't figure out why using one would produce any better results than using the much safer standard 510.

Edited: Seems Lessifer answered that, it looks better but at the risk of being immensely more dangerous in the wrong hands.

Do you mean a real hybrid? Or a hybrid look/direct to battery mod?

A true hybrid doesn't have 510 THREADS and the atty attaches directly to the body of the mod. Dedicated atomizer.
Some are even press fit and don't come off the mod.

Having a dedicated atomizer means there is no chance of using the wrong atty.
Much safer.

 

[Lessifer]

Question: Is there, or what is the advantage to using a hybrid rather than a standard 510?

I know what they are and how they function, but for the life of me can't figure out why using one would produce any better results than using the much safer standard 510.

Edited: Seems Lessifer answered that, it looks better but at the risk of being immensely more dangerous in the wrong hands.

There's the look, and then there's the fact that it usually removes about 1/2 an inch of height from the mod, then there's the voltage drop(eliminating contact points).

Whether any of those is "worth it" is a personal choice. None of them is "necessary" but neither is most of what we have, and who determines what is and is not necessary?

 

[haleysdadda]

I noticed that too. I dont use a mech but i dont think thats the norm???

To account for the lag in massive builds I've noticed people doing this! Mostly kids (males under 25) doing this to try & impress someone!

 

[suprtrkr]

I noticed that too. I dont use a mech but i dont think thats the norm???

It's a bit odd in a tank, yes. But it's stylish among the cloud blowing folkses. It's really more about the topper than the mod. The cloud troops tend to favor complex and massive coil builds for the surface area. There's some noticeable ramp up time with huge coils until the wire gets hot enough to make vapor. Exhaling into the atty both obviates holding one's breath until the wire gets hot, empties the lungs for the best possible draw and, by blowing vapor out the air holes, indicates the wire is hot and ready. Plus, of course, it looks cool.

 

[suprtrkr]

This is just my personal opinion but if you have a pre-fab tank on a mech you're already doing it wrong. Hell I'm a die hard mech user because I vape Reo's, but if I ever swtiched to a RTA, or a pre-fab tank system damn right regulated would be the way I would go.

I think f more people felt that way it would help cut down on these accidents, because honestly it seems it's always someone with a hybrid mech and a tank. Rarely if ever, do I remember it being one of the crazy build RDA coud chasers types who so regularly get blamed for incoming regulation here.

Also true. I used tanks on mech-- used to, not any more-- but they were all RTAs. If you try to use prefab coils on a mech you're giving up a lot of your ability to control the vape.

 

[Tonkpils]

I blow into an RDA on a mech mod because I fire it a second before I hit it to eliminate ramp up (especially with lower gauge wire or claptons) and don't want to inhale the stale vapor. With regulated mods you don't need to do this as you can just crank up the wattage.

 

[haleysdadda]

A $5 heat sink with an adjustable pin would save us from having a lot of these discussions. Makes any topper safe on a faux hybrid.

But doesn't that defeat the supposed advantage of a hybrid mech? And as far as that goes how much "ACTUAL" voltage drop can be expected with a safer connection? Millivolts or like tenths of a volt & how much is that really going to affect the quality of the clouds?

 

[ReigntheGamer]

Also true. I used tanks on mech-- used to, not any more-- but they were all RTAs. If you try to use prefab coils on a mech you're giving up a lot of your ability to control the vape.

And that's what I was getting at RDA's or RTA's on a mech I totally get because you're able to build to your needs out of it. But pre-fabs on one is where I get lost and just think "Why?". Not to mention if you're using one of the rebuildables you have at least dipped you're toe in the waters that will keep you safe.

 

[Tonkpils]

Also true. I used tanks on mech-- used to, not any more-- but they were all RTAs. If you try to use prefab coils on a mech you're giving up a lot of your ability to control the vape.

But doesn't that defeat the supposed advantage of a hybrid mech? And as far as that goes how much "ACTUAL" voltage drop can be expected with a safer connection? Millivolts or like tenths of a volt & how much is that really going to affect the quality of the clouds?

For me its more about size reduction. A SMPL with a Bambino or a Derringer are tiny and easily fit in a pocket

 

[haleysdadda]

I'm not saying this wouldn't help alleviate the "problem," but it would defeat the purpose of the "hybrid-style" top caps. They exist so that you can make "any" atomizer attain the hybrid look with your mod.

Is this about looks or performance? I care more about the look of my face more than the look of my mod.

 

[ReigntheGamer]

There's the look, and then there's the fact that it usually removes about 1/2 an inch of height from the mod, then there's the voltage drop(eliminating contact points).

Whether any of those is "worth it" is a personal choice. None of them is "necessary" but neither is most of what we have, and who determines what is and is not necessary?

That's what I was looking for, and I agree it's no ones business to decide for others but for me none of those pros equate to being a better choice than the safer alternative.