Ecigs Worse than Cigarettes Says Local Man
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Has anyone found an actual transcript of yesterday's hearing in the Senate? I found what I thought was the transcript and started reading it, but later noticed that it was from 2007. Google only turns up the video on the senate page.
I was hoping to search it for "electronic" and get a quick read of what was said about ecigs after CSPAN killed it when the time slot ended. It was late starting and went on for a while after the TV camera period ended.
I was hoping to search it for "electronic" and get a quick read of what was said about ecigs after CSPAN killed it when the time slot ended. It was late starting and went on for a while after the TV camera period ended.
I thought I read that Jman8, Roger_Layette and KentC requested an Official Transcript. But I'm not sure How they Did it. Or if it is even Available yet.
Did you try doing a Google Search with a Time Filter ?
I carry about 20 CASAA cards in my vape kit, cause well sometimes I can't deal. Give em a card, support the CASAA and run.
Yeah, I didn't know there was a hearing in 2007 (or didn't remember). I read down that one for quite a while and it registered that some of the names didn't match what I saw yesterday. I searched for electronic and got 0 results. That's when I went back to the top and saw that it was a 2007 hearing on tobacco policy. I got no results for May 15, 2014 but there was a link to senate.gov that showed the 2007 one only.
Videos come out quick. I'm sure that the transcript has to pass through hands before it's released after proofreading and approval occurs. I just got through watching the end of the video that was truncated on CSPAN.
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Why someone just told me yesterday "I know someone who used to work with me who said someone they met in a bar has an ex-wife who knew someone who has a cousin who said their roommate's niece heard that e-cigarettes have gasoline in them. Or something you put in cars."
Unfortunately - that's only barely not true. This civilization is going to stupid itself to death.
Unfortunately - that's only barely not true. This civilization is going to stupid itself to death.
He would be shocked to find out that he's been eating, drinking, and rubbing propylene glycol on his skin for a long time. It's in so many products we consume that it's ridiculous. People freak when they rib me about my ecig and I tell them PG is in that soft drink they are enjoying, the toothpaste they use, and hundreds of other foods, medicines, and things they use every day. It's even in ice cream and the icing on many cakes!
http://www.ehow.com/list_6962663_foods-drinks-propylene-glycol.html
http://www.ehow.com/facts_7193334_uses-propylene-glycol-food-industry.html
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That's like what my mom said to me, re: quitting vaping -- "my best friend's son's wife quit smoking by vaping, and now she's quit vaping." To which I responded, 1) and how does that apply to ME?, and 2) well keep up with that, with your BF, and let me know when her daughter-in-law starts smoking again.
Preeeeeeeeeecisely.
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I hope you don't mind, I borrowed this for my signature! You hit the nail on the head!Back on topic: Some people are so dang hard headed you can't change their mind till someone(or something) smacks them in the face with the cold hard facts! And even then there are the folks who still won't listen. That is when I walk away saying "Believe what you want but you are the one left looking like a fool! Good luck with that!"
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About 30 years ago I stopped putting sugar and cream in my coffee. No one asked when I was going to quit coffee.
Over 4 years ago, I stopped using tobacco cigarettes that contained several thousand chemicals, 40 of which are known carcinogens. I view it much the same as my my coffee habit. It wasn't the caffeine that was the problem ... it was the other stuff I didn't need.
We all could benefit from a Spartan diet, reduction in exposure to airborne contaminants, more daily exercise, and a long list of healthy activities and foods. Moving from tobacco cigarettes to electronic cigarettes is a major improvement for smokers. I see ecigs as a positive. It's a shame that people want us to do the cold turkey thing and become ex-nicotine users.
I'm betting that if ecigs are banned or the small ecig companies are regulated out of business, tobacco cigarettes will still fill the shelves at the local convenience store along with BT ecigs. How is that a good thing?
It's all about monolithic tobacco companies with deep pockets who want the market all to themselves. If that happens, look for additives to your juice that recreate the addictive cycle.
Over 4 years ago, I stopped using tobacco cigarettes that contained several thousand chemicals, 40 of which are known carcinogens. I view it much the same as my my coffee habit. It wasn't the caffeine that was the problem ... it was the other stuff I didn't need.
We all could benefit from a Spartan diet, reduction in exposure to airborne contaminants, more daily exercise, and a long list of healthy activities and foods. Moving from tobacco cigarettes to electronic cigarettes is a major improvement for smokers. I see ecigs as a positive. It's a shame that people want us to do the cold turkey thing and become ex-nicotine users.
I'm betting that if ecigs are banned or the small ecig companies are regulated out of business, tobacco cigarettes will still fill the shelves at the local convenience store along with BT ecigs. How is that a good thing?
It's all about monolithic tobacco companies with deep pockets who want the market all to themselves. If that happens, look for additives to your juice that recreate the addictive cycle.
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I wonder if they'll proofread for typos AND incorrect content...? Nah, too much to hope for.
Not to worry. Before the rest of the world collapses, I'm going to start a refuge for the intelligent. Passage through the gate will require scoring at least 85 on an I.Q. test.
(I originally had the minimum score at 95, but decided that I wanted more than 7 of us to survive this world.)
It's disheartening, but the U.S. scores about 16th in world IQ comparisons. You might want to advertise in the Scandinavian and Asian countries for members to up the average.
Countries with the Highest / Lowest Average IQ | Statistic Brain
I think the borderline should be 125 IQ. Those who are merely "normal"... well, they seem a little slow to me. 125 is high enough to know how to come in out of the rain without being told to, and enough to know that switching to e-cigs is 100% better for your health than continuing to smoke.
Those who think we all should "just quit" are not only stupid, but have never studied the first thing about either the nature of addiction/dependence, or the nature of the human being, and seem to just not care about either; it should ALL be THEIR way, which makes them fascists and bullies, basically bossy little children who can't stand for anything not to go *their* exact precise way.
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I too have been told by a couple smokers, that they heard ecigs are far worse than tobacco cigarettes. I figure they are either jealous or they listen to the main stream media too much. I guess it is a combination of both.
I'm with you, but the higher we go in I.Q. requirement, the lonelier the few of us in the refuge are going to be.
The older I get, the more I'm convinced that the world is going to hell in a hand basket. I can't count the number of times a topic on the news makes me think, "EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD IS JUST STUPID!!!" Now that I vape, and read what so many people/organizations are saying about vaping, I think it more and more often.
I can live with 95's. And you can actually push your I.Q. up a few notches by improving learning efficiency and logical processing. We can turn those 95's into 100's. Then the dumbest people in the world will still have three-digit I.Q.s. That's a world I'd like to live in.
When somebody pulls the antifreeze nonsense, just ask them this simple question..."do you really think I'ven been smoking antifreeze daily for over a year(or however long you been vaping), and I'm still here to talk to you right now?"
There's a huge difference in loneliness, and solitude. Solitude is my preferred state, or solitude with my husband, though we've together so many years now, it's pretty much he does his thing (TV and snoozing in front of it) and I do mine (computer, reading, cooking, talking on the phone to my mom or aunt, or doing the dishes -- that latter is my own fault of course, from all the cooking!). I don't get as much reading time as I used to, pre-vaping-obsession, but that's mainly because whenever I went out to smoke, like every 30-40 mins, I'd take a book, and end up spending an hour out there, engrossed in whatever I was reading.
I agree with you completely, the older I get, the longer I live, the worse EVERYTHING seems to be, except maybe technology -- that keeps innovating by leaps and bounds, thank all the gods you care to name for these lovely technological saviors.
My EBITWIJS moment comes when I see the reality TV offerings. 
I prefer murder mysteries, cop shows, comedies (Big Bang Theory!), and my preferred version of "reality TV" are the offerings of History Channel, Discovery, Nat Geo, or PBS, *real* things that are interesting, not this crap they keep shoving out. Please, if you really want to write, will you go to Hollywood and write something that's actually worth watching??? There seems a real dearth of intelligent TV writers these days, so please, please, go fill that niche!!!I agree about those learning techniques; I was fortunate to have a very bright grandfather, who told me when I was still in single digits, to remember things by associating them with other things... build an associative web in your brain, he meant, and it's a remarkable tool. I taught my own son this trick, and he's amazingly bright, just scary smart.
And I agree, a world filled only with those whose IQs are in the triple digits would be marvelous, but alas, they'd call that eugenics.
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