Eleaf iStick "pico"

[ddirtyvapes]

Just be careful... there is some conflicting info about whether or not the VTC series is still produced. I buy from IMRBatteries almost exclusively and they claim to still be getting VTC3s, 4s, and 5s, but there is always a chance they are being duped themselves. What I can say is that I have gotten supposed VTC4s from IMRBatteries recently and they certainly work the way I would expect a VTC4 to work, including in a mech. Personally, I would not buy VTCs from many other places. They are among the most counterfeited batteries on the market. If it weren't for that, I would probably buy them more often.

 

[ddirtyvapes]

Has anyone gotten an EC coil with a sort of loose bottom and ended up with a leaking tank because of it? I just got a bunch of new stuff including a new Pico kit and had an almost-disaster when my M3M (Melo 3 Mini) leaked all over the brand new Pico but I think I got the tank off quickly enough. The bottom of the coil I was using (a new notch coil that came with the Lemo) did seem kind of loose and I have a feeling when I grabbed the tank, it separated enough from the coil to cause the leak. BUT I am trying to test all of this stuff now before I put it away to claim warranty if I have to, so I'm just curious if that ever happened to anyone else.

For now, I'm testing the new M3M on another, older mod with a new coil. It seems to be OK so I suspect the above is exactly what happened.

 

[Mactavish]

I plan to get one of the vtc4 i have them bookmarked.

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Good choice. Most of my 18650's are Sony legits. This site does not sell fakes, and batteries are there business, not a Vape store site pushing 50 amp junk rewraps. When my current supply of VTC5's and VTC4's run out, I'll go to the MOOCH blog, and see what's the latest, he's been testing VTC6's, I just don't need any bats right now. Also READ as many of his articles on battery charging, storing, etc. He is our own BATMAN!

FORGOT TO ADD THE SITE I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF MY POST, SORRY!

Authentic AW Batteries - RTD Vapor

 

[KenD]

Yes, PLEASE get a better battery to use!! Really, besides a small subset of vapers who only use low wattage and know exactly what they're doing, anyone planning on using the full features of a single-battery, 75W, TC-capable mod should be using a battery with at least 20A continuous discharge, even a tad more if you're willing to sacrifice some runtime (but 20A should basically be sufficient).

Your 10A battery is probably a big part of the heat issues, too.

Although just so everyone knows, during PBusardo's torture testing, he did find that the mod has an error reading/shuts off when the internal temperature gets too high.

Typically, I use green Samsung 25Rs with my Pico. I also use VTC4s from IMRBatteries, but I would hate to suggest those and have someone end up with counterfeits. Samsung 25Rs are good batteries.

Lastly, anyone in the market for a new tank and wanting one for the Pico specifically, I'm absolutely loving the Lemo 3. I am so impressed. It definitely has some kind of weird quirks about it but BOY does it perform. I'll take the quirks. The airflow might be a bit much for some but yeah, really nice tank. It's also great that it takes the same coils as the Melo, not to mention has a really solid RTA deck.

20 amp batteries are good up to about 60w. For the full 75w you need at least 25 amp batteries.

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[trentenmarschel]

20 amp batteries are good up to about 60w. For the full 75w you need at least 25 amp batteries.

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I know I won't actually use the full 75W. I plan to buy some of the Sony VTC4 From Here. The only reason I will buy from them is because I'll have to buy more juice at the beginning of the month anyway, So with the shipping cost, I might as well throw the batteries in.

 

[Mactavish]

I know I won't actually use the full 75W. I plan to buy some of the Sony VTC4 From Here. The only reason I will buy from them is because I'll have to buy more juice at the beginning of the month anyway, So with the shipping cost, I might as well throw the batteries in.

Is that ONE battery or TWO for $15? Never heard of this site, hope you get legit VTC4's, as its really hard to tell. And for that price it better be two bats.

 

[trentenmarschel]

Is that ONE battery or TWO for $15? Never heard of this site, hope you get legit VTC4's, as its really hard to tell. And for that price it better be two bats.

It's two for $15. I have bought from DFW for over 2 years. I buy juice from them at least twice a month. I also got my Pico from them and they are real good with returns. I sent them a email, and told them I only had one mod and asked if they could send a replacement Pico and then I could ship the old one back, and that is exactly what they did. When I first started ordering juice from them, they would throw in an extra 2 or 3 10ml flavors for me to try for free. I completely trust this company and if the batteries don't perform, I have no doubt that they will process my return/refund quickly.

 

[ddirtyvapes]

Actually, a 20A should be sufficient but it is undeniably always good to have extra headroom. However, the Pico will not fire at full power once the battery is near dead (but above cutoff) so a good 20A should not pose a problem. Indeed, with certain low resistances the Pico will never fire at full power. To sacrifice capacity for a tad bit of extra headroom when the mod only does part of what it says is unnecessary

If you watch a video of someone actually testing the Pico's capability, it only puts out a full 75W from somewhere around .4-.6ohms. So if you wanna run it at 75W all the time with a .4-.6ohm coil, get a 25A+ battery. If not, 20A is sufficient.

But, that's why I recommend VTC4s when you can find ones you're sure enough are real. It gives you a few more amps in the CDR without a 1500mAh capacity.

 

[trentenmarschel]

Actually, a 20A should be sufficient but it is undeniably always good to have extra headroom. However, the Pico will not fire at full power once the battery is near dead (but above cutoff) so a good 20A should not pose a problem. Indeed, with certain low resistances the Pico will never fire at full power. To sacrifice capacity for a tad bit of extra headroom when the mod only does part of what it says is unnecessary.

But, that's why I recommend VTC4s when you can find ones you're sure enough are real. It gives you a few more amps in the CDR without a 1500mAh capacity.

Yea, those are what I plan to get (VTC4) Also the reviews on the batteries from DFW are real good. The batteries I currently use are only 2000mAh, but they are so low power I can discharge one in under 5 hours of use. The VTC4 I am getting is 2100mAh so that is just a little more capacity.

I am always a little skeptical of the batteries that some vendors sell that claim to be over 3000mAh or very high output performance especially when they are trying to sell them very cheap (under $10).


UPDATE! (Big text, I didn't want to multi post) I just spoke with a person at the vendor I was going to order the VTC4's from and I guess they are not a pair. They only sell them individually. So I will not be buying one battery for $15 that's insane. That product page was rather misleading IMO. I'll still buy my juice from them.

 

[KenD]

Actually, a 20A should be sufficient but it is undeniably always good to have extra headroom. However, the Pico will not fire at full power once the battery is near dead (but above cutoff) so a good 20A should not pose a problem. Indeed, with certain low resistances the Pico will never fire at full power. To sacrifice capacity for a tad bit of extra headroom when the mod only does part of what it says is unnecessary

If you watch a video of someone actually testing the Pico's capability, it only puts out a full 75W from somewhere around .4-.6ohms. So if you wanna run it at 75W all the time with a .4-.6ohm coil, get a 25A+ battery. If not, 20A is sufficient.

But, that's why I recommend VTC4s when you can find ones you're sure enough are real. It gives you a few more amps in the CDR without a 1500mAh capacity.

Do you have any sources for the Pico not using more than 20 amps? That would mean that it isn't actually capable of reaching 75w. Even at full charge a battery at 75w will push 20 amps or more (take into account that no device has 100% efficiency).

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[trentenmarschel]

Do you have any sources for the Pico not using more than 20 amps? That would mean that it isn't actually capable of reaching 75w. Even at full charge a battery at 75w will push 20 amps or more (take into account that no device has 100% efficiency).

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I could easily test that when I go to build my next coil. If my batteries can even push enough power for 75w, All I would have to do is put my multimeter on it with a coil on there (So the device will read some resistance) and fire it.

 

[KenD]

I could easily test that when I go to build my next coil. If my batteries can even push enough power for 75w, All I would have to do is put my multimeter on it with a coil on there (So the device will read some resistance) and fire it.

If you don't have batteries that can handle a potential 25 amps, don't do it. In any case, without the proper batteries it wouldn't prove much about the capabilities of the device. I have an inline volt meter (and a dmm), but I don't care enough to test this. I prefer to be on the safe side and use batteries that fit my preferred use.

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[ddirtyvapes]

The pico is only capable of reaching 75W when using a relatively narrow range of resistance, .4-.6 ohms. This was covered thoroughly in PBusardo's video on the pico.

You should use whatever CDR makes you feel safe and is appropriate. But the comments about needing only 25A+ are not rooted in the reality of how this device works.

 

[trentenmarschel]

The pico is only capable of reaching 75W when using a relatively narrow range of resistance, .4-.6 ohms. This was covered thoroughly in PBusardo's video on the pico.

You should use whatever CDR makes you feel safe and is appropriate. But the comments about needing only 25A+ are not rooted in the reality of how this device works.

I am going to get them from IMR batteries. Their prices seem good, and I am about to see what shipping is.

Thanks!

 

[Topwater Elvis]

Yea, those are what I plan to get (VTC4) Also the reviews on the batteries from DFW are real good. The batteries I currently use are only 2000mAh, but they are so low power I can discharge one in under 5 hours of use. The VTC4 I am getting is 2100mAh so that is just a little more capacity.

I am always a little skeptical of the batteries that some vendors sell that claim to be over 3000mAh or very high output performance especially when they are trying to sell them very cheap (under $10).


UPDATE! (Big text, I didn't want to multi post) I just spoke with a person at the vendor I was going to order the VTC4's from and I guess they are not a pair. They only sell them individually. So I will not be buying one battery for $15 that's insane. That product page was rather misleading IMO. I'll still buy my juice from them.

If you stick with the name brand 3000mah 18650's that I've recommended several times in this thread and buy only from reputable sources you'll have no problems & get an increase in run time over lesser mah cells.

Samsung 30Q 3000mah 20a
LG HG2 3000mah 20a
AW 3000mah 20a
Sony VTC 6 3000mah
They have all been accurately tested & verified by our resident battery specialist.
--->List of Battery Tests | E-Cigarette Forum

If you insist on buying batteries from iffy sources no telling what you'll get.

This is where I buy my batteries ---> Batteries and Chargers

 

[trentenmarschel]

If you stick with the name brand 3000mah 18650's that I've recommended several times in this thread and buy only from reputable sources you'll have no problems & get an increase in run time over lesser mah cells.

Samsung 30Q 3000mah 20a
LG HG2 3000mah 20a
AW 3000mah 20a
Sony VTC 6 3000mah
They have all been accurately tested & verified by our resident battery specialist.
--->List of Battery Tests | E-Cigarette Forum

If you insist on buying batteries from iffy sources no telling what you'll get.

This is where I buy my batteries ---> Batteries and Chargers

I am going to get them from IMR batteries. Their prices seem good, and I am about to see what shipping is.

Thanks!

When I first started looking for new batteries I was going to order from Amazon, but after looking into it, 99.99999% of their batteries are %100 fake. I'll stick with IMR, They have a lot of good reviews and people on here vouching for them.

Hell, Shipping on IMR is only $3.

 

[KenD]

If you don't have batteries that can handle a potential 25 amps, don't do it. In any case, without the proper batteries it wouldn't prove much about the capabilities of the device. I have an inline volt meter (and a dmm), but I don't care enough to test this. I prefer to be on the safe side and use batteries that fit my preferred use.

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I rewatched the DJlsb vapes review. Daniel says that the highest he could get the Pico to fire at was 74.5w. That's a draw over 20 amps. Good batteries will handle it, sure, but it's over the cdr.

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[KenD]

The pico is only capable of reaching 75W when using a relatively narrow range of resistance, .4-.6 ohms. This was covered thoroughly in PBusardo's video on the pico.

You should use whatever CDR makes you feel safe and is appropriate. But the comments about needing only 25A+ are not rooted in the reality of how this device works.

Explain how 75w, with anything but a fully charged battery, could result in less than a 20 amp draw. Resistance doesn't factor into the amp draw on vw devices. Where safety's the concern, make sure you know what you're talking about.

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[TheWestPole]

Got my Pico Mega today. Headline news:

Tested: 24mm Atomizers Do Not Fit, 23mm and Smaller Only

 

[GarfieldDC]

Got my Pico Mega today. Headline news:

Tested: 24mm Atomizers Do Not Fit, 23mm and Smaller Only

I guess the dia around the 510 is the same as the original Pico. So we will only be able to use 22/23 mm atomizers.