Eleaf Istick

Stosh · Oct 28, 2014

Just like to report another successful topper option. I built a 1.1Ω 24 ga coil in my AGA-T2 and wicked it with cotton, it's vapes very nicely at about 14-16 watts but can go up to 20 watts. At the top of the scale the AGA doesn't wick quite fast enough, have to wait a bit between hits, lower works without a hitch.

My istick works very well with the build, but it is a juice hog....with lots of clouds.

leekeylee · Oct 28, 2014

ruet said:
Here are the two newest members in my vaping collection.

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I was expecting a little cheapness here and there with the iSticks but I don't really see any issues. ...so far. I was especially surprised with the weight and feel of the devices. I expected them to feel a little on the light and flimsy side. Boy was I wrong. They feel great.

I usually rock Kayfuns but my newly rebuilt BVC ProTanks (Thanks BSD ) killed them dead. I err on the side of flavor over vapor production and these builds (30g Kanthal, 10 wraps, Rayon, 1.8 Ohms) really are providing the best of both worlds. 1.8 Ohms is giving me enough room to hunt for a power sweet-spot whith the builds. The way they hit and the snapping and crackling they produce while firing remind me of pre-gate Boge cartos. For me, the iStick and ProTank combo is a near perfect setup.

I find a 1.2ohm vertical coil build in my emow mega with Japanese cotton and 50/50 juice at about 14 watts rocks my world on my istick

gerrymi · Oct 28, 2014

Flt Simulation said:
The problem I have with the 'Eleaf iStick' is the fact that it cannot decrease voltage below what it's battery is charged at.

Flt Simulation said:
Well, I have not read every post in this very long thread ... All I am saying is that any variable volt / watt battery should be able to not only increase voltage above what it's internal battery is charged at, but also decrease voltage too, if needed.

Well...you're kicking a (very) dead horse.

Check out post #414 here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...sion/601111-eleaf-istick-42.html#post14200257

Most in this thread knew about the iStick's low voltage limitations BEFORE we bought one (or two) (or three)...and most seem to LOVE it!!! :headbang:

four2109 · Oct 28, 2014

Can anyone post a pic of an istick next to a REO 18650?

Bottom feed is the only thing missing for me! I am so glad I didn't waste money chasing the new "next best thing" on this forum.
Forgive me, I started on fiddley 3.4 ohm, 3.7 volt cig-a-likes.
I like auto batts and I don't care about flavors or clouds.
Yeah, 401, 901, 801, and 14500 Nicosticks. The 501 lowered resistance and that's why it took off.
All the complaining about power just seems hilarious to me considering what the istick delivers.

ruet · Oct 28, 2014

gerrymi said:
Most in this thread knew about the iStick's low voltage limitations BEFORE we bought one (or two) (or three)...and most seem to LOVE it!!!

Yup, I knew what I was getting into before I placed my order and planned to build around the limitations before the iSticks even arrived. I might even pick up a couple to run my drippers on. No power concerns there.

four2109 · Oct 28, 2014

Does anyone remember the price on the Provari and Screwdriver in 2009?? Katya? (Seems to have the best memory here.)

Katya · Oct 28, 2014

four2109 said:
Does anyone remember the price on the Provari and Screwdriver in 2009?? Katya? (Seems to have the best memory here.)

Hehehehe.... The very first ProVari? 150 bucks. Now that was a game changer! That was in 2010, BTW.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ri-variable-voltage-device-2.html#post1996644

Don't remember the first Screwdriver--But I could do some research for ya'.

ProVari vs Darwin--that was the big topic on ECF then. :lol:

Katya · Oct 28, 2014

zoiDman said:
Specs are a Funny Thing sometimes.

From the DNA30 spec sheet Evolv says that their board has a Minimum Voltage Output of 4.0 Volts. And the Maximum Atomizer Ohms is 3.0 Ohms.

A Little quick Math tells me that an DNA30D Should be able to Output at 5.333 Watts with a 3.0 Ohm Atomizer. But it Doesn't.

So then I think, OK... It can't Output Less Voltage than the Battery Input. So does the 4.0 Voltage Output occur when the Battery input is Less than say 3.8 Volts? But that Doesn't seem to Happen Either.

So something Doesn't Jive.

Picky, picky!

We'll have to talk to Brandon!

Where's Kat?

ETA: I have the same question wrt my MVP2. Per their specs, the lowest wattage on MVP2 is 6 watts. So what happens exactly when I put a 2Ω atty at 3.2v? Hmmm? Am I vaping at 5.1W or at 6W? :facepalm:

four2109 · Oct 28, 2014

Katya said:
Hehehehe.... The very first ProVari? 150 bucks. Now that was a game changer! That was in 2010, BTW.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ri-variable-voltage-device-2.html#post1996644

Don't remember the first Screwdriver--But I could do some research for ya'.

ProVari vs Darwin--that was the big topic on ECF then.

That was Cash wasn't it? I think he had a straight voltage first, then went to stacked batts. It seems they were both $175... for a pretty flashlight tube. We've come a long way baby! Glad I passed on them. HAHA!

Katya · Oct 28, 2014

Kent C said:
..........
Yeah, we didn't know the resultant under load voltage until Scott did his magic I contributed a few 'devices' for that btw....

We had no clue. True that. But Mik did in 2012 when our conversation took place.

Yes, you did.

So did Scott. The Dream PV?

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/70591-dream-pvs.html#post1043732

four2109 · Oct 28, 2014

Katya said:
Hehehehe.... The very first ProVari? 150 bucks. Now that was a game changer! That was in 2010, BTW.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ri-variable-voltage-device-2.html#post1996644

Don't remember the first Screwdriver--But I could do some research for ya'.

ProVari vs Darwin--that was the big topic on ECF then.

The Darwin was late in my game, about the time I drifted away from all the changes in the modding forum. I never needed anything so complicated or expensive.

Katya · Oct 28, 2014

four2109 said:
That was Cash wasn't it? I think he had a straight voltage first, then went to stacked batts. It seems they were both $175... for a pretty flashlight tube. We've come a long way baby! Glad I passed on them. HAHA!

Nope. Variable voltage.

The ProVari will let you select voltages from 3.3volts to 6.0volts in 0.1 set increments (3.3, 3.4, 3.5, 3.6...all the way up to 6.0volts).

Katya · Oct 28, 2014

Jumpin' In... said:
Heh. There go Katya and KentC again. Gotta love their discussions.

Aloha Jumpin!

Yeah, we've been doing it for quite a while.... And enjoying every minute, if I may add.

Wait! You're a veteran already???? WOOT! How did that happen? I remember when we had our first conversations in New Members....

Congratulations!

mrignatious · Oct 28, 2014

Stick and nautlius mini should be in my hands (well, hand) Friday afternoon.

scaredmice · Oct 28, 2014

zoiDman said:
Specs are a Funny Thing sometimes.

From the DNA30 spec sheet Evolv says that their board has a Minimum Voltage Output of 4.0 Volts. And the Maximum Atomizer Ohms is 3.0 Ohms.

A Little quick Math tells me that an DNA30D Should be able to Output at 5.333 Watts with a 3.0 Ohm Atomizer. But it Doesn't.

So then I think, OK... It can't Output Less Voltage than the Battery Input. So does the 4.0 Voltage Output occur when the Battery input is Less than say 3.8 Volts? But that Doesn't seem to Happen Either.

So something Doesn't Jive.

There were (are) several versions of the basic DNA-30D. Some have a minimum voltage of 4,0 V. Some others 3,5 V, this happens according to the several specifications floating around, dates of manufacturing, and so on. My guess is that there is some limited capability of going under battery voltage, but very limited, as if it were a fixed pre-stabilizerf voltage step to that precise voltage (Evolv technicians know better, of course). DNA-20D / 30D were (are) not designed to a full step-down capabilitiy, I suppose because the 'less-than-7W' atomizers class was considered in the verge of extintion....

Well, it wasn't, and the newer incarnations (DNA-40D and Innokin SVD 2.0, and the next DNA-25D) would be (are) able to a truly step-down, even down to 1 W (in the temperature controlled, wacked up in the start of each puff DNA-40D).

If you add the uncontrolled crowd of cloned chips (Cloupor, Kangside, and all that jazz...) the picture gets definitevely blurred. They effectively clone the aspect and behaviour (well, more or less) of the original ones, but also have disparate limitations on resistances and limiting voltages...and some clones have even something funnier: they 'rattle-snake' when you set power with a final voltage outcome below 4,0 V.......!

The rattle-snaking curse......always haunting us even in the brighter days..... :laugh:

zoiDman · Oct 28, 2014

Katya said:
Picky, picky!

...

You know Me.

Like it when the Math comes out Hunky Dory.

Coo Coo for Cocoa Puffs when it Doesn't.

LOL

zoiDman · Oct 28, 2014

scaredmice said:
There were (are) several versions of the basic DNA-30D. Some have a minimum voltage of 4,0 V. Some others 3,5 V, this happens according to the several specifications floating around, dates of manufacturing, and so on. My guess is that there is some limited capability of going under battery voltage, but very limited, as if it were a fixed pre-stabilizerf voltage step to that precise voltage (Evolv technicians know better, of course). DNA-20D / 30D were (are) not designed to a full step-down capabilitiy, I suppose because the 'less-than-7W' atomizers class was considered in the verge of extintion....

Well, it wasn't, and the newer incarnations (DNA-40D and Innokin SVD 2.0, and the next DNA-25D) would be (are) able to a truly step-down, even down to 1 W (in the temperature controlled, wacked up in the start of each puff DNA-40D).

If you add the uncontrolled crowd of cloned chips (Cloupor, Kangside, and all that jazz...) the picture gets definitevely blurred. They effectively clone the aspect and behaviour (well, more or less) of the original ones, but also have disparate limitations on resistances and limiting voltages...and some clones have even something funnier: they 'rattle-snake' when you set power with a final voltage outcome below 4,0 V.......!

The rattle-snaking curse......always haunting us even in the brighter days.....

I think what you are seeing is Board Makers realizing that they have been Kinda Short Sighted.

Yes, we are in the Ballistic Arms Race to see who can get to 500 Watts before the Corporate Product Liability Lawyers step in and say Enough.

But by making Boards that are just +7W, APV makers Can't Cash in on the <7w Crowd.

KTMRider · Oct 28, 2014

zoiDman said:
I think what you are seeing is Board Makers realizing that they have been Kinda Short Sighted.

Yes, we are in the Ballistic Arms Race to see who can get to 500 Watts before the Corporate Product Liability Lawyers step in and say Enough.

But by making Boards that are just +7W, APV makers Can't Cash in on the <7w Crowd.

I respectfully disagree with your last statement. While the crazy cloud chasers are out there, there's only so many of them. I would guess the vast majority of vapers are average joes that want a simple but good product and don't need more than 30w on a daily basis. That's why the Istick is such a success despite the high output at low watts which has been a major point of contention. Most vendors can barely keep them in stock despite this issue. There's only so many 50w+ devices that are being sold (Sigelei 100w box might be the best seller in this space currently). The Istick works for so many vapers, I would guess they're selling 20 for every 50w+ device sold overall and that might be very conservative.

*edit... Whoops, I might have misread your last statement.

zoiDman · Oct 28, 2014

KTMRider said:
I respectfully disagree with your last statement. While the crazy cloud chasers are out there, there's only so many of them. I would guess the vast majority of vapers are average joes that want a simple but good product and don't need more than 30w on a daily basis. That's why the Istick is such a success despite the high output at low watts which has been a major point of contention. Most vendors can barely keep them in stock despite this issue. There's only so many 50w+ devices that are being sold (Sigelei 100w box might be the best seller in this space currently). The Istick works for so many vapers, I would guess they're selling 20 for every 50w+ device sold overall and that might be very conservative.

*edit... Whoops, I might have misread your last statement.

I was Reading and Rereading and Rereading what I posted after your Opening Sentence. Couldn't Figure it Out.

Wasn't until I got to your Edit that I Smiled. LOL

Fullknight · Oct 29, 2014

Well I just ordered from elev8vape.
Full kit $35.92 includes shipping.
ECF5 for 5% off.
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1x Eleaf iStick 20W Battery
1x 510 Adapter
Wall Charger
USB cable

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