Electronic Cigarette User Poll

[leaford]

Not to even get into the are/were debate, but...

Are the two questions "Are you a smoker," and "do you know a smoker," meant to be mutually exclusionary? As in, you EITHER are a smoker, OR you know one? Because I think most people who ARE a smoker, probably KNOW at least one other smoker.

Amd for that matter, realistically, even if one is not a smoker, how likely is it that you don't even KNOW a smoker? Really? And how would you even know that for sure? Is it a useful question?

Similarly the pair of questions "I have purchased an e-cig," and "I would purchase an e-cig." I checked both. I think most of us here who have, would.

Really, I checked almost all but a couple of those. If the poll questions are soo loosely defined that people can check nearly all, it's not going to gather very good or useful data.

 

[esmok-e]

I could be wrong but, I still think we can work with the data. We can work out questions together beforehand for another poll or go for the "Roman forum" contest style and everyone puts up his own. I gave it a shot, I'll look at the data in a graph and table and see how it looks. Adjustments can be made for underage, non-smokers etc., based on the percentiles accordingly. I'm not a pro at this at all but I thought it would be a start. I'm happy to be bested.
I asked for this awhile back. Let's come up with THE 15 questions, agree and do it again.

 

[leaford]

See, look at these numbers, I'm not the only one to check most. These are the kind of polls that bad science data mines cherry picked "statistics" from to appear to support their ideas. "97.7% of e-smokers are of legal age!" Never mind that there isn't even an option to vote that you aren't. Never mind that this forum is SUPPOSEDLY restricted to those of legal age, so the fact that number isn't 100% throws then entire validty of it into doubt. Somebody's lying about something one way or the other, so it's all questionable.

Sorry to knock your effort, we need to gather data and I applaud the attempt. I hope you take this as constructive.

 

[leaford]

I could be wrong but, I still think we can work with the data. We can work out questions together beforehand for another poll or go for the "Roman forum" contest style and everyone puts up his own. I gave it a shot, I'll look at the data in a graph and table and see how it looks. Adjustments can be made for underage, non-smokers etc., based on the percentiles accordingly. I'm not a pro at this at all but I thought it would be a start. I'm happy to be bested.
I asked for this awhile back. Let's come up with THE 15 questions, agree and do it again.

Can't do THE 15 questions. THE subject is too broad. See DC2K's example. Lots more than 15 questions,multiple choices and yues no, as appropriate, "other" options. And he still just skimmed over the subject broadly.

For 15 questions, you would have to break it down into sub-subjects. 15 questions on prior smoking, 15 questions on vaping habits, etc. And the forum poll system just doesn't let you construct it properly. Again, DC2K found a good format, try that for your next version.

 

[breakfastchef]

20% of underage vapers sure doesn't look good.

Agreed. Rather disturbing; at least to me.

 

[esmok-e]

Ok, let's do that one, it's much, much better. There are some typos and it seems that some 1 to 10s are backwards like "...How easy was it to quit" and 10 is "extremely difficult". That's me and probably moot. Question numbers would be good too. Alphabetize flavors...

Leave it to Google! Should've known.... however: you can fill it out any number of times and submit galore, tho', answer one or answer 'em all - over and over again. Need an IP check or e-mail (kept private) and a little captcha thingie wouldn't hurt.

I would theenk dees ees a beeg problemo, no? Can this be fixed in this beta app?

So much for scientific.

PLEASE CAN ANYONE OUT THERE DO THIS RIGHT BEFORE ROLLING IT OUT ON THE SHOWROOM FLOOR?

http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=cEdWZnB1ckhTOU9adnVDVmRnTE1kR3c6MA..

 

[pegling]

I loved being able to leave the "I am a smoker" box unchecked

That was my favorite part too!

 

[surbitonPete]

oops made a mistake

 

[Chevron07]

"I have not been able to quit yet"...I took that as "not able to quit prior to vaping". Is that what you were going for, or is it redundant with "I have completely switched to e-device"? Or do you mean quit smoking analogs and e-device?

Also, the under legal age people may be those who are looking into this on behalf of an older loved one and not looking into for their own use.

 

[tribalmasters]

ohh it got stickied!!

 

[ApOsTle51]

WHY THE HELL IS THIS A STICKY ???


who's gonna benefit from it..

 

[esmok-e]

Bump to admin... I don't know how to do stickies

 

[RatInDaHat]

apostle... I was wondering the same thing.

 

[esmok-e]

842 views and only 132 votes... around 15%

 

[ApOsTle51]

842 views and only 132 votes... around 15%

thats because its a pointless poll...and a sticky too ...sheesh..

stickies should only be for usefull or important information, I'm afraid this is neither of those.

May as well sticky the Miss ECF 2009 poll too as it's about as much use....

damn , there i go chasing that horse again.........

 

[esmok-e]

Makes me wonder what you want from the horse. They have specialists for those kinds of things. Yeh, Yeh, how would I know?

 

[esmok-e]

thats because its a pointless poll...and a sticky too ...sheesh..

stickies should only be for usefull or important information, I'm afraid this is neither of those.

May as well sticky the Miss ECF 2009 poll too as it's about as much use....

damn , there i go chasing that horse again.........

Could it be that the point is on your head and the sticky is well... clean up after you're finished with the horse.

 

[esmok-e]

Still busy with the horse? Hello?

Everyone else please fill it out. It's not the best but it's what we got now and the results are anonymous and one shot per user. Make it work the best you can.

Admin made it a sticky - I didn't even request that. Mods took it from Campaigning and put it in General Discussion. Not me.

SJ will install vbSurvey when he can and DC should have a field day with that, but until then let's turn the volume up on this - we need a better conversion ration than 16%. How about 100%. It only takes a minute. Do it for ECF. And become a subscribing member for $2 a month. The entertainment value is worth way more than that, not to mention the useful info which will save you that in time and money wasted many times over. Go for the year at $20.

This will keep things running smooth and allow for enhanced features like comprehensive surveys, ECF hosted smoke free and vape since counters that could link to say the petition and much, much more. The site is growing by leaps and bounds, let's give something back and ensure it can manage the increased capacity.

We can't afford to dial ECF and get a busy signal. Plus, it goes without saying my sinister ulterior motives, which I'm sure some will mention, like how upset I would be if people won't see all my ad posts for over-priced products and my various MLM schemes to rip them off blind.

The last person to vote just before it closes (I'm not telling when) will get a free starter kit of their choice from me with a month's worth of atomizers, car charger kit and case.

 

[Nori]

I checked "I have partially switched to an electronic device." but it is the other way around, I partially switch to stinkies! 8-o

 

[Calaban]

thats because its a pointless poll...and a sticky too ...sheesh..

stickies should only be for usefull or important information, I'm afraid this is neither of those.

May as well sticky the Miss ECF 2009 poll too as it's about as much use....

damn , there i go chasing that horse again.........

Just wondering....why do you care if it's a sticky or not?

I'm also surprised at the amount of people who stated that they think "electronic cigarettes should replace tobacco cigarettes."

I'm not sure what this actually means. Does it mean that you think analog cigarettes should be taken off the market and outlawed? With all the talk about personal freedom and choice around here, I would think outlawing analogs would be the farthest thing from people's minds. I don't want people telling me I can't smoke my e-cig, and I also don't want to tell anyone else they can't kill themselves with analogs....

Maybe I'm reading way too much into it. I have been known to do that like, most of the time lol.