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Yes the trick is the maximum voltage is 6v. So as long as you are not running at higher than that or 28a, whatever your coil resistance is shouldn't matter much.
That's right, they did up the voltage to 6.2 V to allow 75 W to 0.5 ohm, but it's just as you said.
 

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I dont think Ive ever gone over 4.2V so should be ok…thanks.

IMO... it requires proper wicking (a skill I lack) and a willingness to ride the line between dry hits and some amount of leaking (don't have that either). :p

I'm also more often in TC which can reduce the need/desire to really hammer a build.
But... it can be done. I expect chasers do it all the time.
 
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Yes the trick is the maximum voltage is 6v. So as long as you are not running at higher than that or 28a, whatever your coil resistance is shouldn't matter much.

I don't really understand your explanation here. I do understand the technical of battery draw and the math is no issue. What I don't get is why you'd say 6v is the "trick" and then state 28 amps is the limit. And how does the coil not matter? You mean functionally it doesn't ? Cuz who is really pulling 28a?

Not picking - genuinely curious about the train if bought leading to that statement. Maybe I'm missing something obvious. From what you're saying if you drop a .05 temp control build in there with a 28a limit you're not putting much power to it. So a lot of battery flashing is going to happen. I'm too lazy to do the math right now (haven't slept) but is really Low power. So the coil matters a lot if you like high power and temp control. Or does he dna75 die something in Reno control mode regarding power limits and such. Like allow split second bursting of much higher draws. Etc?

My anemic vape issue did variation number 2 last night. Cold tank mounted and read at .83. Needed 575F to get a defer vape. tank slept and came back still at .83. But needed only 440F for the same vape second go round.

So the temp variation issue ain't always accompanied by resistance changes. No the resistance isn't locked.

The sdna looks really nice with the c1 imo.
 
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I don't really understand your explanation here. I do understand the technical of battery draw and the math is no issue. What I don't get is why you'd say 6v is the "trick" and then state 28 amps is the limit. And how does the coil not matter? You mean functionally it doesn't ? Cuz who is really pulling 28a?

Not picking - genuinely curious about the train if bought leading to that statement. Maybe I'm missing something obvious.
What they mean is if your coil(s) resistance doesn't exceed 6v or 28A for the wattage you want to run at, you are good.
 

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What they mean is if your coil(s) resistance doesn't exceed 6v or 28A for the wattage you want to run at, you are good.

Read up - I edited. Specifically about how temp control is handled with super low resistance builds. Do hey change limits and behaviors ?


One other thing. I can't believe we can't flip screen orientation on device. That sucks.
 

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The res only matters in that the wattage you request must be possible within the mods' amp and voltage limits. Extreme low res is usually because of multi-coil builds with more mass... requiring more watts to avoid long ramp-up times. Whereas high res builds need more voltage to achieve the same wattage.
There're limits at both extremes.

I see Bill beat me to it. :)
 

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One other thing. I can't believe we can't flip screen orientation on device. That sucks.

Screen, Pre-Heat & Punch, and especially... the choices for the three lines on the left.
Yeah... I'd like to have control of those on the mod.

Damn... you really did edit that other post... need to see what you added.
 

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The point being if the Wattage is above 6v or the amps above 28 to get your comfortable vape than your screwed. I don't think it so much matters what the resistance is of your coil (lets say even .01) if it requires you to have more than 28a or 6.2v then it will still fire but won't give you the vape you want. They don't state a minimum or a maximum and even the errors for resistance to high or too low say "for this power setting". Because the "coil" or resistance of the coil doesn't matter it's the power setting in relation to the resistance that matters.

I said 6.2v is the trick because I don't think anyone would try to get a coil so low with so much mass that they would be pushing 28a. So to me the more limiting issue would be someone making a .2 or .3 (in the voice of VWT420) Super staple alien wrapped spider clapton and needing to push it up pass 6v. A person using a coil that needs 28 amps in a single battery mod is an idiot who should do us a favor and put on a clone mech and use a an efest to do us favor. Needing more than 6.2v on the other hand can be legit issue. Hell someone did a review and brought up a good point. Sense brought out a ceramic coil that 1.8 ohms but can take subohm wattage. Well getting the comfortable 35 watts (and the coil can go up to 80w) meant something like 7-8v. Meaning that it would be a terrible idea to use it on a DNA75.
 
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I'll add the c1 sdna pic here. So people can respond without involving themselves in the other conversation. Poor quality form phone but for anyone wondering.

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The point being if the Wattage is above 6v or the amps above 28 to get your comfortable vape than your screwed.


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Sense brought out a ceramic coil that 1.8 ohms but can take subohm wattage. Well getting the comfortable 35 watts (and the coil can go up to 80w) meant something like 7-8v. Meaning that it would be a terrible idea to use it on a DNA75.

Hats what I was looking for. I just wanted to understand your train of thought.

I build all my coils but I'm genuinely interested in new disposables that are either great new designs or very inexpensive with a great vape (clr coils)

I should look those up - sounds interesting. I don't know what the point would be of a 1:8 build going that high - is it for mtl or dl? Maybe the ceramic changes things. Thanks for explaining he statement. And he sense into. Ill have to see he tank and coils. I'm guessing the latter cost a fortune.
 

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Hats what I was looking for. I just wanted to understand your train of thought.

I build all my coils but I'm genuinely interested in new disposables that are either great new designs or very inexpensive with a great vape (clr coils)

I should look those up - sounds interesting. I don't know what the point would be of a 1:8 build going that high - is it for mtl or dl? Maybe the ceramic changes things. Thanks for explaining he statement. And he sense into. Ill have to see he tank and coils. I'm guessing the latter cost a fortune.

That Sense coil is a really fracken weird coil. It's a normal SS encased coil with a ceramic wicking on the outside and then cotten on the inside (exact opposite of Vapepresso) and then the Kanthal wire wound inside the cotton like their normal coils. How they pulled it off to get that high of resistance with a vw range up into 60+ watts I don't know. But its certainly a DL coil and not a MLT coil.

As for the overnight stuff. DNA has a 30 minute heartbeat that learns over time what the actual resting resistance is and I have found that all my DNA's are anemic at first and anywhere from an hour without use to over night will correct themselves. Well all but with my avocado, it really struggles with that on.
 
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Too many vape toys, I lose track... what's the "c1" ?
It's a clean style looker though.

Cloud one by cloud mods. Expensive and a pain to buy. Very flavorful mouth to lung tank. If you're into kayfuns, taifuns, Mark bugs gem, go heron and soheroid, Calix v2 . That sort of class. Probably tied favorite right now. Especially with the 28/36 Clapton build.


Cheers mate. She looks good. There's a brushed tank as well. If you like that " all metal no idea what my juice level is but I vape temp control so it doesn't matter " thing :)
I kid I kid.


I vape an HnP and have no issue telling when it's getting dry.

Definitely pairs well with this mod.
 

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DNA has a 30 minute heartbeat that learns over time what the actual resting resistance is and I have found that all my DNA's are anemic at first and anywhere from an hour without use to over night will correct themselves. Well all but with my avocado, it really struggles with that on.

You're the first person to ever tell me about this - and it makes sense. With my mind if builds and how I vape it would make sense that it figured it out pretty quickly I'd think. Thanks man. That really really is helpful. I believe I may have stumbled on a trick that allows t to learn faster. Let me confirm and I'll post back if so.


I wonder how the vapresso coil compares to the 1.8 triton coil.
 

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Yeah that's why Evolv doesn't suggest resistance locking it. Your coil can creep around a bit as you vape it. On most that means dropping in testing resistance which then means your locked resistance would be too high and the vape would be much hotter.

What I generally run into though is that it detects the resistance a little too low to start with and then by morning it's working fine from point out.

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