I remain skeptical about this. The board is quite expensive and is competing with lower cost Chinese boards that work well enough at a significant lower price point. The temperature control feature is not a must have for the vast majority of vapers, particularly if limits itself to nickel wires. I very much doubt that Kanger and Aspire will rush to provide nickel atties and if they do, they will a niche market and cost more. So that leaves a pretty standard chip that can neither compete with the 50-100W chips from China powerwise or pricewise. But I guess we will see how the market reacts. If the istick craze is any indication, a $60 chip is a difficult proposition these days.
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You are quite welcome gal.... have a great day (when you wake up).... hugs....
You are wrong on all counts. Chinese boards are not cheaper if you have ever tried to buy one. And even the best aren't even close in quality. Temperature control is absolutely a must-have feature, it is one of the most significant features ever added to vaporizers. Temperature control is the holy grail of vaping technology.
Kanger and Aspire are building coils as we speak.
I sensed that that EVOLV has kept the fallout from future FDA actions very much front & center in the design of this product
Not just in regards to the safety of the device itself, but the "boiling" of the juices themselves.
(Pbusardo's video mentions the impeding publication of a Dr.F juice study with some "unsavory" results.)
So to directly answer you question about who cares: the FDA???
The December FDA Workshop may illuminate more on this topic
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You're entitled to your opinion of course, armadillo. If you want to buy and support cheap China boards that "work well enough" (that statement alone says a lot about your mind set and your take on safe vaping), that's your option.
With the DNA40 and temp mode, it's about taste and vapor volume and most importantly, safe vaping.
The temp mode of the DNA40 protects the taste of juice and prevents juice degradation. What this means is:
-no burnt wick
-no dry hits
-no questionable products in the juice
-safe vaping from harmful components
-enhanced flavor and taste
You set the temp for taste - above the boiling point of the juice, but below the char point of the wick = win-win for not only safe vaping, but great flavor and taste.
Power (wattage) with temp mode is set for vapor volume/hit.
I'm vaping at 400F @ 25W and getting the full flavor from my juice with no burnt taste, no dry hits, and way more clouds than my room can handle.
If you can get any of that with your cheap China boards, I wish you well.
With the DNA40 and temp mode, it's about taste and vapor volume and most importantly, safe vaping.
The temp mode of the DNA40 protects the taste of juice and prevents juice degradation. What this means is:
-no burnt wick
-no dry hits
-no questionable products in the juice
-safe vaping from harmful components
-enhanced flavor and taste
You set the temp for taste - above the boiling point of the juice, but below the char point of the wick = win-win for not only safe vaping, but great flavor and taste.
Power (wattage) with temp mode is set for vapor volume/hit.
I'm vaping at 400F @ 25W and getting the full flavor from my juice with no burnt taste, no dry hits, and way more clouds than my room can handle.
If you can get any of that with your cheap China boards, I wish you well.
You're entitled to your opinion of course, armadillo. If you want to buy and support cheap China boards that "work well enough" (that statement alone says a lot about your mind set and your take on safe vaping), that's your option.
With the DNA40 and temp mode, it's about taste and vapor volume and most importantly, safe vaping.
The temp mode of the DNA40 protects the taste of juice and prevents juice degradation. What this means is:
-no burnt wick
-no dry hits
-no questionable products in the juice
-safe vaping from harmful components
-enhanced flavor and taste
You set the temp for taste - above the boiling point of the juice, but below the char point of the wick = win-win for not only safe vaping, but great flavor and taste.
Power (wattage) with temp mode is set for vapor volume/hit.
I'm vaping at 400F @ 25W and getting the full flavor from my juice with no burnt taste, no dry hits, and way more clouds than my room can handle.
If you can get any of that with your cheap China boards, I wish you well.
Morning gal.....always a pleasure to have you drop in.....are the mod juices flowing yet???? ... mine are.... LOL Have a great day....
I'd love love love to see the DNA40 in the form factor of the istick. The smaller apv's are great for peeps with smaller size hands and to have the correct temp'd flavors with the nice power for vape would make a win win in my playbook. (I'm not saying higher watts cause I don't need the watts just warmth and clouds)
Just curious: for the rebuilder's that have built their coils and used the DNA40,...have you noticed cleaner coils after use? I know that the cotton (etc) is no longer being burnt and that it will depend on the ejuice being used but I can't help but to wonder if the coils are actually lasting even longer. How often are you needing to change out the wicks and the coils?
Also never used the nickel wire (except for leg's in the diverv2) so do you heat the coil to clean?
Just curious: for the rebuilder's that have built their coils and used the DNA40,...have you noticed cleaner coils after use? I know that the cotton (etc) is no longer being burnt and that it will depend on the ejuice being used but I can't help but to wonder if the coils are actually lasting even longer. How often are you needing to change out the wicks and the coils?
Also never used the nickel wire (except for leg's in the diverv2) so do you heat the coil to clean?
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Well, I wasn't arguing from my perspective. I was looking at the market, which is dominated by eGos, Vamos, MVPs, et al. The vast majority of smokers simply do not have budgets that allow >$100 mods. From my own perspective, I do not see the benefit, since I'm a low wattage vaper (6-7W @ 2.1 Ohm) vaping strictly PG with natural menthol and no other ingredients (but I am an outlier), so I never ever have dry hits and flavor is just perfect for me. But that's not the point. I am trying to figure out if this board is really what the market was looking for. It's kinda like the Apple of boards in that they produce something you didn't know you needed.
You mean the same smokers who were spending $50-$100 a week on cigs?
Innokin is already selling a sub-$100 mod with a Evolv board in it and Evolv has already said there would be a lower-cost version of this technology, presumably intended for mass-market mods. But if that were the product that Evolv had introduced this technology in, lots of people would have whined that it was useless because it didn't make enough power -- see the P3 threads for an example.
Armadillo. I am a 8.0-9.0 watts vaper. I see the need for the DNA40. I have had cotton wicks burn for several reasons (mostly me). I believe that it only makes sense that the ecig evolve into a better and safe(r) experience (no pun intended). I've been a vaper for many years, seen the good and the bad and I'll always be wanting the better/safer especially for a new vaper and the experienced vaper.
Wish that I could word stuff better.
Wish that I could word stuff better.
Just because you didn't know you needed it does not make it not needed.
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I just posted this in another thread but thought I would share it here. This is my coil/wick after about a week or so of daily vaping on the new board. (~50ml?). The atty is on a squonker and I can tell you that I often forget to squonk. Typically, if I squonk dry, the wick is toast. Here the board automatically throttles down and vapor production diminishes. The temp stays below the char point, so the wick is unaffected. But what I thought was interesting is the minimal build up on the coil and wick. There is slight carmelization on the coil and bleeding into the wick, but no real gunk. On my other builds (non-temp limited) this would be a hot mess.
Most smokers exceeded the cost of a DNA mod in 2-3 cartons of smokes. It's simply not true that people do not have this budget, almost everyone can make it happen, they just choose not to. But if a device offers something truly special, that changes the equation.
I had as many burnt hits if not more vaping low wattage consumer gear than vaping rebuildables at high wattage. TIny wire, poor wicking = high chance of burn and less life. I've been thinking a carto with this technology would be awesome, since so many die from burning the diaper/wicking.
Thank you for this pic. This is exactly what I was asking to see.I just posted this in another thread but thought I would share it here. This is my coil/wick after about a week or so of daily vaping on the new board. (~50ml?). The atty is on a squonker and I can tell you that I often forget to squonk. Typically, if I squonk dry, the wick is toast. Here the board automatically throttles down and vapor production diminishes. The temp stays below the char point, so the wick is unaffected. But what I thought was interesting is the minimal build up on the coil and wick. There is slight carmelization on the coil and bleeding into the wick, but no real gunk. On my other builds (non-temp limited) this would be a hot mess.
Thanks gdeal for dropping by the Evolv Technology Owners Discussion Thread and posting the pic of your build and how it is working out....
Yes we do!You don't want to see mine
Heck, I bet even YOU are sub-ohming now, aren't you?
You don't want to see mine
But I was using absolute coil destroying NET liquids. The temperature technology does reduce buildup and give me better performance and longevity compared to dumb power regulation.
Yup. And fairly, I should have mention that I am using a relatively less gunkafying (if thats a word...) liquid. Its VG with a 5% peppermint and the wick is cotton. So dr. g will need to post up the torture test pics.
Yes we do!
Heck, I bet even YOU are sub-ohming now, aren't you?
Oh I was never afraid of subohming when it was called for
I assume that is NI200 wire. What gauge and what resistance? I'd think you'd need quite a bit for say an 0.2 Ω coil.
I just posted this in another thread but thought I would share it here. This is my coil/wick after about a week or so of daily vaping on the new board. (~50ml?). The atty is on a squonker and I can tell you that I often forget to squonk. Typically, if I squonk dry, the wick is toast. Here the board automatically throttles down and vapor production diminishes. The temp stays below the char point, so the wick is unaffected. But what I thought was interesting is the minimal build up on the coil and wick. There is slight carmelization on the coil and bleeding into the wick, but no real gunk. On my other builds (non-temp limited) this would be a hot mess.
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