Evolv Technology Owners Discussion Thread

[JMarca]

So, just to hit back and report my findings...

This morning I was still on full battery after about an hour it finally went down to what seemed like 75%, not 5 mins after it went down to 50%. About 10 mins after that I was at 25% and finally about 15 minutes after that I was getting the error message.

That gives me (estimate, not raw data) about 30 minutes from the time it shows not completely full to completely empty taking a vape about every 3-5 mins. Although it's at least good that it gives me some time that's pretty scary how empty it really becomes in a flash. But at least now I guess I have some sort of warning and I'll know to either back off or get to a charger asap so I don't ruin my batteries.

I want to thank everyone who helped me out with this and replied. I still love the device it's just really really weird the way it works and makes me wonder if it was actually intended to work this way or if it's just another glitch.

 

[retird]

So, just to hit back and report my findings...

This morning I was still on full battery after about an hour it finally went down to what seemed like 75%, not 5 mins after it went down to 50%. About 10 mins after that I was at 25% and finally about 15 minutes after that I was getting the error message.

That gives me (estimate, not raw data) about 30 minutes from the time it shows not completely full to completely empty taking a vape about every 3-5 mins. Although it's at least good that it gives me some time that's pretty scary how empty it really becomes in a flash. But at least now I guess I have some sort of warning and I'll know to either back off or get to a charger asap so I don't ruin my batteries.

I want to thank everyone who helped me out with this and replied. I still love the device it's just really really weird the way it works and makes me wonder if it was actually intended to work this way or if it's just another glitch.

THX for the update.... So what was the total estimated vape time between full charge and when ya got the message and what was the message? My mods pretty consistently take a long while to get from full to 3/4 full and a shorter time from 3/4 to 1/2 full and yet a shorter time from 1/2 to 1/4 full...

 

[HolmanGT]

So, just to hit back and report my findings...

This morning I was still on full battery after about an hour it finally went down to what seemed like 75%, not 5 mins after it went down to 50%. About 10 mins after that I was at 25% and finally about 15 minutes after that I was getting the error message.

That gives me (estimate, not raw data) about 30 minutes from the time it shows not completely full to completely empty taking a vape about every 3-5 mins. Although it's at least good that it gives me some time that's pretty scary how empty it really becomes in a flash. But at least now I guess I have some sort of warning and I'll know to either back off or get to a charger asap so I don't ruin my batteries.

I want to thank everyone who helped me out with this and replied. I still love the device it's just really really weird the way it works and makes me wonder if it was actually intended to work this way or if it's just another glitch.

"J",

I apologize for suggesting you would have 4 to 6 hours after the indicator started to move. I believe you are on a single 18650 and my flask has dual bats. Also if you hit ever 3 to 5 minutes that is another variance I did not take into account. With my 24 mg Nic I take a few hits and it may sit for 15 to 20 minutes. If I hit it like you do I would be so buzzed I wouldn't even be able to read the Bat meter.

 

[BNEAT]

From what everyone is reporting, you shouldn't have to worry about hurting your batteries, it'll stop making reasonable vapor way before then. From what I understand, your battery meter is working as it was designed. I pay no attention to mine what so ever.

 

[retird]

"J",

I apologize for suggesting you would have 4 to 6 hours after the indicator started to move. I believe you are on a single 18650 and my flask has dual bats. Also if you hit ever 3 to 5 minutes that is another variance I did not take into account. With my 24 mg Nic I take a few hits and it may sit for 15 to 20 minutes. If I hit it like you do I would be so buzzed I wouldn't even be able to read the Bat meter.

.....been there also.... was using 12mg juice till TC came along....lots of nick overloads with TC and now all my juice is 3mg...

 

[BNEAT]

THX for the update.... So what was the total estimated vape time between full charge and when ya got the message and what was the message? My mods pretty consistently take a long while to get from full to 3/4 full and a shorter time from 3/4 to 1/2 full and yet a shorter time from 1/2 to 1/4 full...

Does the battery meter work better on the single battery mods as opposed to the duals? It seems like that's what I've been seeing in these threads, but I really haven't paid that close attention to the posts. (since mine last all day and I charge every night, I don't have to worry about it)

 

[retird]

Does the battery meter work better on the single battery mods as opposed to the duals? It seems like that's what I've been seeing in these threads, but I really haven't paid that close attention to the posts. (since mine last all day and I charge every night, I don't have to worry about it)

Really can't say...read the same things as you have but I have no dual battery mods (yet lol)...seems the duals go days between charges...

 

[BobC]

.....been there also.... was using 12mg juice till TC came along....lots of nick overloads with TC and now all my juice is 3mg...

I hear that, I've since moved from 3mg/ml to 0, the downside: I go through about 6 Batts per day now

 

[JMarca]

THX for the update.... So what was the total estimated vape time between full charge and when ya got the message and what was the message? My mods pretty consistently take a long while to get from full to 3/4 full and a shorter time from 3/4 to 1/2 full and yet a shorter time from 1/2 to 1/4 full...

I'm not exactly sure, I believe around 14-15 hours or so from completely charged to error message. A full 10 hour work day plus that night and next morning.

"J",

I apologize for suggesting you would have 4 to 6 hours after the indicator started to move. I believe you are on a single 18650 and my flask has dual bats. Also if you hit ever 3 to 5 minutes that is another variance I did not take into account. With my 24 mg Nic I take a few hits and it may sit for 15 to 20 minutes. If I hit it like you do I would be so buzzed I wouldn't even be able to read the Bat meter.

Yeah I vape around 4mg strength at about 13-15w I don't really sub ohm (well technically now with TC builds I do lol) so I take more hits but they aren't very powerful.

From what everyone is reporting, you shouldn't have to worry about hurting your batteries, it'll stop making reasonable vapor way before then. From what I understand, your battery meter is working as it was designed. I pay no attention to mine what so ever.

Yep, I still wonder if it's working as intended but at least now I know how it works.

 

[retird]

I hear that, I've since moved from 3mg/ml to 0, the downside: I go through about 6 Batts per day now

I've been pondering going 0 nic also... just haven't jumped.... funny I started vaping in 2010 with 36mg. nic and about 3ml per day to 3mg now and about 6ml average now... not getting the flack from my heart doctor that he gave me while using the stinkies...

 

[BNEAT]

Really can't say...read the same things as you have but I have no dual battery mods (yet lol)...seems the duals go days between charges...

From what I've read it sounds like the meter moves a little slower on the single battery mods. When I first got my Flask I played with it a few times to see how long the batteries were going to last, and to see how it functioned, and it went from showing full all the way down to cut-off in about 30minutes, maybe less. Like I said, I don't really care now because it last me all day.....but it would be kinda nice if it functioned like most other battery meters.

 

[HolmanGT]

Does the battery meter work better on the single battery mods as opposed to the duals? It seems like that's what I've been seeing in these threads, but I really haven't paid that close attention to the posts. (since mine last all day and I charge every night, I don't have to worry about it)

BENEAT,

If you consider "J's" reports with a single and my reports with duals they seem to work the same with the exception that once the Bat Bar starts to drop it goes a little faster on the single bat units to be expected I guess.

I can't speak to over all timing my dualy's seem to go for days but I use two units and switch use when I get board with one flavor. I would have to use a log book to keep of with the timing from New Bats to empty with any reasonable accuracy.

The only thing I can say about my dualys on the VF is that they seem to last for a minimum of two to two and a half days. I only once used my dual unit until it started display Low Bat and when I put the bats in the charger they indicated approx. 3.27. So as far as 3.2 being the lowest you want to go, ever, I think the Chip-set works fine the Bat Bar not so much.

Also I tend to change mine out when the bat bar hits 40 to 50% and those bats will measure out (in the charger) at approx. 3.5 volts. The only reason I do that is some bats I have seen claim 3.5 to be the low useable end. I don't know if that is true or if it was a typo... but better safe than sorry. Oh and of course from 50% to borderline empty on the Bat Bar is not that much addition vaping time anyway.

 

[retird]

From what I've read it sounds like the meter moves a little slower on the single battery mods. When I first got my Flask I played with it a few times to see how long the batteries were going to last, and to see how it functioned, and it went from showing full all the way down to cut-off in about 30minutes, maybe less. Like I said, I don't really care now because it last me all day.....but it would be kinda nice if it functioned like most other battery meters.

Yep....don't disagree with ya....there are things I wish the DNA's would offer also....I too pay little attention to my batt meter and settings anymore... I'm in "plug and play mode"... maybe we will get our wishes...

 

[HolmanGT]

I hear that, I've since moved from 3mg/ml to 0, the downside: I go through about 6 Batts per day now

Bob,

0 mg - really? For me that would be like smoking one of those cigarettes they came out with many years back that were made out of lettuce. Good for your health but when you butted it out you had to smoke two regulars in quick success to get over the withdrawals.

 

[HolmanGT]

Yep....don't disagree with ya....there are things I wish the DNA's would offer also....I too pay little attention to my batt meter and settings anymore... I'm in "plug and play mode"... maybe we will get our wishes...

retird,

I don't mind the Evolv Bat Bar too much but it does seem like it would have been easier to do it like my "Seven 30" just read the ADC and display no processing required (which took a little getting used to) it reads the Bat continuously fire button pressed or not.

The result is two fold while just sitting there it will bobble around a decimal point or so (probably rounding correction) and when you push the fire button it will show instantly the battery droop and bobble around a few decimal places. Once I became accustomed to the continuous reading I am usually disappointed by any other style of batter voltage display.

 

[BNEAT]

hmm, interesting. Maybe I won't plug mine in tonight and see how it does tomorrow. It's been a few months since I tried that, and I think I only let it go to cut-off one time.

 

[retird]

retird,

I don't mind the Evolv Bat Bar too much but it does seem like it would have been easier to do it like my "Seven 30" just read the ADC and display no processing required (which took a little getting used to) it reads the Bat continuously fire button pressed or not.

The result is two fold while just sitting there it will bobble around a decimal point or so (probably rounding correction) and when you push the fire button it will show instantly the battery droop and bobble around a few decimal places. Once I became accustomed to the continuous reading I am usually disappointed by any other style of batter voltage display.

Your point is well taken...standardization may be a good thing...and changes and improvements are always possible with electronic boards such as are being made for vapers... I bug Brandon too much already to broach the subjects I would like to with him...and as some say "the squeaking wheel gets the grease"....maybe all the good ideas that vapers have for improving the DNA's could be given to Evolv via their contact form under "suggestions"... I know as an OEM company that they are always working on a couple new things for future releases and customer input may be a good thing,

 

[HolmanGT]

Your point is well taken...standardization may be a good thing...and changes and improvements are always possible with electronic boards such as are being made for vapers... I bug Brandon too much already to broach the subjects I would like to with him...and as some say "the squeaking wheel gets the grease"....maybe all the good ideas that vapers have for improving the DNA's could be given to Evolv via their contact form under "suggestions"... I know as an OEM company that they are always working on a couple new things for future releases and customer input may be a good thing,

retird,

I agree with you completely. That said I find it hard to believe that they don't "read the mail" on these DNA40 threads. Frankly I would even go as far as to call it a big mistake not to monitor these conversations. That would give them the opportunity to cherry pick the good ideas and not have to be concerned about getting into big discussions with people that send in suggestions good and bad.



PS - I assume they have a ADC chip on there board. if they switched to just plain real time read monitoring they could possible expunge a lot of "AI", "Average consumption" type code and use the "KISS" principle. With the "Seven 30" it behaves just like an everyday DVM it you have 3.7x volts that's what it reads... etc.

 

[ThunderDan]

I have a DIY dual battery DNA 40 mod, and the battery meter "works" the same way with one, or two batteries in it. Basically same thing everyone is reporting with their commercially available mods, stays full until around 3.5v, then drops after that, and finally get the low battery message around 3.2v.

Does it really bother me? No. Is this how I think evolv intended the meter to work? No. Is it just an issue with my mod's design? Maybe, but it seems the "big" companies are having the same results.

 

[retird]

retird,

I agree with you completely. That said I find it hard to believe that they don't "read the mail" on these DNA40 threads. Frankly I would even go as far as to call it a big mistake not to monitor these conversations. That would give them the opportunity to cherry pick the good ideas and not have to be concerned about getting into big discussions with people that send in suggestions good and bad.



PS - I assume they have a ADC chip on there board. if they switched to just plain real time read monitoring they could possible expunge a lot of "AI", "Average consumption" type code and use the "KISS" principle. With the "Seven 30" it behaves just like an everyday DVM it you have 3.7x volts that's what it reads... etc.

Don't really know why they do/do not monitor this thread or the other hundreds of them over several forums or facebook pages.... I do know they get input from some facebook pages and from those that post in them.

Here is but one example from just one facebook page:

Lets all help give Evolv and the mod manufactures feedback on the large screen screen glitches.
LARGE SCREEN ONLY PLEASE
Please post a picture of the glitch if you have one, as well as the following information.
- Devise (rDNA, bap, Etc)
- Coil Material (Kanthal, Nickel, Etc)
- Coil Ohm
- Wattage Setting
- Temp Setting (if using nickel)
- Battery(s) Used
- ~Battery % when the glitch occurred
Example:
bap - Nickel - 0.15 - 25w - 450 - LG HE4 - 50%