Evolv Technology Owners Discussion Thread

[dr g]

I suspect that may be part of the resistance reading routine.

 

[Vlad1]

I suspect that may be part of the resistance reading routine.

I don't really see any correlation with that. I can't imagine any reason for a voltage increase and duty cycle increase with each higher wattage to test the resistance. Did you look at the scope traces?

 

[Mattnatti]

All of this Tech talk makes my head hurt and I cannot add anything of importance to the conversation so I will just do a drive by posting and say, Evolv products rock! I loved my Kick's ( v1) and have two BNIB for nostalgic reasons. I also love my DNA20's and 30.

Power Regulation is where it's at baby!

 

[dr g]

I don't really see any correlation with that. I can't imagine any reason for a voltage increase and duty cycle increase with each higher wattage to test the resistance. Did you look at the scope traces?

Yes I did. The behavior is so different than during normal regulation to suggest it is doing something else entirely.

 

[Rossum]

To answer the question in your notes, the reason the dna didn't hit 30w at 2.7 ohms is you reached the chip's upper voltage limit. Which, it should be noticed, is also different from what the specsheet says.

One of the things that's become apparent about Evolv's products is that their spec sheets, as well as what Brandon is willing to say -- either in answering inquiries via e-mail, or in interviews -- is always quite conservative. In other words, in actual testing, the product always out-performs the specs and claims. You can see that in those numbers: The spec sheet says a dna will produce a maximum of 8.3V. It actually produces more. The same is true on the other end. The spec sheet says it will go down to 4.0. It actually goes lower.

 

[DavidAmonettNashville]

I suspect that may be part of the resistance reading routine.

No. Pbusardo pointed out resistance readings on his E-vic review (I believe thats the one) And it is but a blip...Like a heartbeat blip across the screen. This graph shows a duty cycle...But don't trust me...I'm just guessing really- Dave.

EDIT: See 29:56 of video​

 

[Vlad1]

One of the things that's become apparent about Evolv's products is that their spec sheets, as well as what Brandon is willing to say -- either in answering inquiries via e-mail, or in interviews -- is always quite conservative. In other words, in actual testing, the product always out-performs the specs and claims. You can see that in those numbers: The spec sheet says a dna will produce a maximum of 8.3V. It actually produces more. The same is true on the other end. The spec sheet says it will go down to 4.0. It actually goes lower.

This is probably true, I think most good companies give themselves a little wiggle room and not advertise the absolute max/min. But like I said in the notes the equipment I used was not high dollar precision equipment therefore I was mainly focusing on verifying my methodology was the same for the comparison. I'm sure my equipment is accurate within + / - 2% but if someone else is doing the same tests and I'm on the +2% side and they are on the -2% side were going to be 4% difference with the same test.

 

[Vlad1]

No. Pbusardo pointed out resistance readings on his E-vic review (I believe thats the one) And it is but a blip...Like a heartbeat blip across the screen. This graph shows a duty cycle...But don't trust me...I'm just guessing really- Dave.

EDIT: See 29:56 of video​

Pretty sure the Evic does not use a DNA 30 board so that's kind of comparing apples to oranges. Don't know much about that device so correct me if I'm wrong. I will say I've briefly looked for a signal that tests the resistance and have had no luck in finding it, no heartbeat or blip that I've discovered. Maybe because I'm looking in the wrong place, maybe it's carried on the initial signal and is blending in idk.

Yes I did. The behavior is so different than during normal regulation to suggest it is doing something else entirely.

Yes it is a very different signal from once it gets above the "unregulated" voltages which makes me think this thing "is doing something else entirely", but what is the question.

 

[DavidAmonettNashville]

Pretty sure the Evic does not use a DNA 30 board so that's kind of comparing apples to oranges. Don't know much about that device so correct me if I'm wrong. I will say I've briefly looked for a signal that tests the resistance and have had no luck in finding it, no heartbeat or blip that I've discovered. Maybe because I'm looking in the wrong place, maybe it's carried on the initial signal and is blending in idk.
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The PWM looks the same regardless of the Board...A duty cycle is a duty cycle(seems to me) So a Resistance/load check should also appear the same(it seems) Who knows...Just trying to participate really. Great job on all your work so far.

 

[dr g]

Yes it is a very different signal from once it gets above the "unregulated" voltages which makes me think this thing "is doing something else entirely", but what is the question.

Trying to figure out what the Chinese are doing is an exercise in futility

The PWM looks the same regardless of the Board...A duty cycle is a duty cycle(seems to me) So a Resistance/load check should also appear the same(it seems) Who knows...Just trying to participate really. Great job on all your work so far.

The appearance of a trace is just that, a signal. You can do many things with a signal. Or nothing, for that matter.

 

[XJ-linux]

One device is not a statistically significant sample group, regardless of who tested it.

 

[Vlad1]

Trying to figure out what the Chinese are doing is an exercise in futility



The appearance of a trace is just that, a signal. You can do many things with a signal. Or nothing, for that matter.

This is true but in this example we know what the signal is being used for when measured on the output. To dissipate power in the form of heat.

 

[retird]

OK.... this thread kinda went dormant for a while and I've been away from it. I've been involved in a beta test of a new Evolv product/technology. The new product is AMAZING. The beta test involved a very highly thought of group from the vaping community and they have been testing this only after all the R&D and testing that Evolv has done over months if not years.

At this point Evolv asked the beta testers to only verify that a new product is coming and the specifics will come later. So we beta testers are not a liberty to discuss any specifics... YET

This product is in addition to the product designed specifically for Innokin and it will be available to the masses......

Here is a picture that pbusardo posted a while back and is the only picture available at this time for public consumption....

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JUST A HEADS UP GUYS......

Don't try a .06 OHM build on your current device.....

 

[dr g]

Of course it was you, retird

 

[vaptamist]

Very cool!

 

[basilray]

The new tech is pretty fantastic. You guys are going to be in for a treat!

 

[mikepetro]

Agreed, this new technology WORKS! It is not smoke and mirrors, it works and works better than any board I have ever used. I have been testing the board for a couple weeks now and I can not set it down. The only time I am using anything else is when the battery is charging.

 

[Krashman Von Stinkputin]

So if one was currently in the market for a DNA 30 device, are you advising to wait a bit?

And if so, theoretically how long should one wait........theoretically speaking?

;-);-)

 

[retird]

So if one was currently in the market for a DNA 30 device, are you advising to wait a bit?

And if so, theoretically how long should one wait........theoretically speaking?

;-);-)

hum.....why not both.... a 30 now and the other when they come out......then you can compare them against each other....always good to have a backup....LOL

 

[mikepetro]

The new technology ROCKS: