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My opinion? I can't really imagine how you're hurting 'em above 3.0V. Take a look at some of the following spec sheets:

http://www.powerstream.com/p/INR18650-25R-datasheet.pdf
http://www.powerstream.com/p/us18650vtc5-vtc5.pdf
http://www.powerstream.com/p/LG 18650HE2 Technical Information.pdf

Samsung and Sony run 'em down to 2.5V in their life-cycle tests, while LG runs 'em all the way down to 2.0V!

Will you get more cycles by not running them down as low? Maybe. But they would also last longer if you went with a lower charging voltage than the full 4.2V. Personally, I don't obsess over it for a $6-9 battery, and I really like the fact that I can consistently drain a 6ml bottle of juice on a single 18650 in my DNA40 bottom-fed mod.
 

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My opinion? I can't really imagine how you're hurting 'em above 3.0V. Take a look at some of the following spec sheets:

http://www.powerstream.com/p/INR18650-25R-datasheet.pdf
http://www.powerstream.com/p/us18650vtc5-vtc5.pdf
http://www.powerstream.com/p/LG 18650HE2 Technical Information.pdf

Samsung and Sony run 'em down to 2.5V in their life-cycle tests, while LG runs 'em all the way down to 2.0V!

Will you get more cycles by not running them down as low? Maybe. But they would also last longer if you went with a lower charging voltage than the full 4.2V. Personally, I don't obsess over it for a $6-9 battery, and I really like the fact that I can consistently drain a 6ml bottle of juice on a single 18650 in my DNA40 bottom-fed mod.

Well... I never would have guessed that they ran their test down as low as 2.0 or 2.5 volts. nor did I know that 4.2. was pushing things a bit. Tell you the truth I never really researched the voltage min/mas for Lion batteries of any formula I just took post and review statements as Gospel. I try not to worry about batteries too much or the stack of 26650s that I only use occasionally would drive me crazy because they just sit there at full charge and I may not use them for a couple of months. I sure am not going to take all my low usage and pull them down to 75% before I put them up.

Sometimes OCD gets to me and I will fret about how I handle my batteries but fortunately I am usually able to put that particular obsession in it's place and move on.
 

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Just another option (feature) for some I'm thinkin'....refinement works just fine for me....will see what it's all about....

Well, my russian 91% was always fiddly. Would work fine awhile then one little bump would jar something loose and then in and out of temp mode. If I was made out of money I would get one just to see how it works and give feedback. Unfortunately, I am not... so others get to do it for me. :D
 

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Well, my russian 91% was always fiddly. Would work fine awhile then one little bump would jar something loose and then in and out of temp mode. If I was made out of money I would get one just to see how it works and give feedback. Unfortunately, I am not... so others get to do it for me. :D

So, how did you fix it when it came loose?
 

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Well, my russian 91% was always fiddly. Would work fine awhile then one little bump would jar something loose and then in and out of temp mode. If I was made out of money I would get one just to see how it works and give feedback. Unfortunately, I am not... so others get to do it for me. :D

All my 40's/25's are working just fine so I guess eventually as I want to build another mod I'll have one with "atty lock" but no need for me to hurry up and get one just for that new feature...
 

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Well, my russian 91% was always fiddly. Would work fine awhile then one little bump would jar something loose and then in and out of temp mode. If I was made out of money I would get one just to see how it works and give feedback. Unfortunately, I am not... so others get to do it for me. :D

Does your Russian have a screw type adjustable 510?
That is likely the problem connection, I added a tiny bit of tubing under the screw, voila no more issues.
The center post likely needs tightening as well if you have not done that yet.
 

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Posted this in another thread.... interested in what you think....

Care for a hypothetical:

Build a coil in your favorite topper.... wick it and juice it.... check it with an ohm checker....comes in at 0.15 ohms.... fire it in non-temp mode to check for hot legs... all ok.... change to temp mode.....ohm's reading is now different than 0.15 ohm because coil has heated up.... select new coil.. atty temperature different than device and you set atty lock while temperatures of device and topper are not equal...and ohm's reading is for the hot topper...

Results??? Interested in what you think since refinement is off..
 

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Does your Russian have a screw type adjustable 510?
That is likely the problem connection, I added a tiny bit of tubing under the screw, voila no more issues.
The center post likely needs tightening as well if you have not done that yet.

Oooohhhh, yeah. Read everything I could and tried it all. I believe it is an atty and an rDNA thing in conjunction. Vaporshark does not recommend the 91% for nickel builds (wish they would have had that tidbit up when I bought mine).

Comparing my 91% (pin screwed out about equal to the holmes) and Holmes v2 the post/stem/base length difference is about 1-1.5mm. When I adjust the 91% pin to make the atty posts equal it gets quite wobbly, even with the extra o-rings, and I was to lazy to hob job it more. The 91% post length and the rDNA 510 depth are not quite harmonious it seems.
 

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Oooohhhh, yeah. Read everything I could and tried it all. I believe it is an atty and an rDNA thing in conjunction. Vaporshark does not recommend the 91% for nickel builds (wish they would have had that tidbit up when I bought mine).

Comparing my 91% (pin screwed out about equal to the holmes) and Holmes v2 the post/stem/base length difference is about 1-1.5mm. When I adjust the 91% pin to make the atty posts equal it gets quite wobbly, even with the extra o-rings, and I was to lazy to hob job it more. The 91% post length and the rDNA 510 depth are not quite harmonious it seems.

I found o-rings to be a band aid at best. Once I had something hard to tighten the adjustable 510 against I have 4 91%s working perfectly.
FWIW I used about 1 to 1.5mm chunk of brass pen refill tube. I expect the plastic ones may work to a degree if the plastic is hard.
The positive deck post will move when the 510 is tight enough so watch out for that.
 

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I found o-rings to be a band aid at best. Once I had something hard to tighten the adjustable 510 against I have 4 91%s working perfectly.
FWIW I used about 1 to 1.5mm chunk of brass pen refill tube. I expect the plastic ones may work to a degree if the plastic is hard.
The positive deck post will move when the 510 is tight enough so watch out for that.

Yup, I am lazy with fat digits and carpal tunnel. I believe it is an actual medical condition requiring FDA approved drugs... The lazy, not the other two.

I recall you posting about the pen thing before. I just used not wanting to fiddle more as an excuse to get a couple drippers and try them out. I will mod up my 91% one day, I have things that need settled before then though.
 

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Posted this in another thread.... interested in what you think....

Care for a hypothetical:

Build a coil in your favorite topper.... wick it and juice it.... check it with an ohm checker....comes in at 0.15 ohms.... fire it in non-temp mode to check for hot legs... all ok.... change to temp mode.....ohm's reading is now different than 0.15 ohm because coil has heated up.... select new coil.. atty temperature different than device and you set atty lock while temperatures of device and topper are not equal...and ohm's reading is for the hot topper...

Results??? Interested in what you think since refinement is off..

I don't select new coil at that point. Why would I?

I haven't had many issues with refinement, but I'm damn glad they gave us the option to turn it off. I for one would never ever turn it on.
 

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I don't select new coil at that point. Why would I?

I haven't had many issues with refinement, but I'm damn glad they gave us the option to turn it off. I for one would never ever turn it on.

It is a new coil ya just built.... maybe ya misread the hypothetical...more interested in what you think the results would be...
 

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Care for a hypothetical:

Build a coil in your favorite topper.... wick it and juice it.... check it with an ohm checker....comes in at 0.15 ohms.... fire it in non-temp mode to check for hot legs... all ok.... change to temp mode.....ohm's reading is now different than 0.15 ohm because coil has heated up.... select new coil.. atty temperature different than device and you set atty lock while temperatures of device and topper are not equal...and ohm's reading is for the hot topper...

Results??? Interested in what you think since refinement is off..

Yes, that would lead to bad results



Care for a hypothetical:

Build a coil in your favorite topper.... wick it and juice it.... check it with an ohm checker....comes in at 0.15 ohms.... select new coil.. fire it in non-temp mode to check for hot legs... all ok.

Results??? Interested in what you think since refinement is off..

This would lead to good results, and if refinement doesn't .... in, it would remain that way.
 
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