Evolv Technology Owners Discussion Thread

[RebelGolfer72]

If it doesn't damage their reputation or finances too badly, they have the potential to make the next gen boards legendary- to the point that folks will eventually forget about the ordeal around the DNA40.

One thing I hope they go back to is the instant power like the DNA30 had. You hit the fire button, and it instantly delivered 30w power (or whatever you set it at). With the DNA40, you hit the button, wait 1/8-1/4 second, then the power slowly ramps up to what you set it at. It may not bother some, but to me it's just enough to annoy me (but not enough for me to completely jump ship on my DNA40 boards)

 

[Jazzman]

If it doesn't damage their reputation or finances too badly, they have the potential to make the next gen boards legendary- to the point that folks will eventually forget about the ordeal around the DNA40.

One thing I hope they go back to is the instant power like the DNA30 had. You hit the fire button, and it instantly delivered 30w power (or whatever you set it at). With the DNA40, you hit the button, wait 1/8-1/4 second, then the power slowly ramps up to what you set it at. It may not bother some, but to me it's just enough to annoy me (but not enough for me to completely jump ship on my DNA40 boards)

To be fair, the DNA40 is suppose to be dumping 40watts every time you push the button for the initial heat up... regardless of what power level you have set. And I think it does exactly that. But I don't have a scope to check and there may be some delay when you push the fire button before it actually delivers power. I don't really know and probably G can answer that better. It would be interesting to know if there is a delay, but based on past dna devices I'm guessing there really isn't. I'll wait for others with better first hand knowledge to chime in on this one.

 

[dr g]

If it doesn't damage their reputation or finances too badly, they have the potential to make the next gen boards legendary- to the point that folks will eventually forget about the ordeal around the DNA40.

One thing I hope they go back to is the instant power like the DNA30 had. You hit the fire button, and it instantly delivered 30w power (or whatever you set it at). With the DNA40, you hit the button, wait 1/8-1/4 second, then the power slowly ramps up to what you set it at. It may not bother some, but to me it's just enough to annoy me (but not enough for me to completely jump ship on my DNA40 boards)

If you get a delay you are either not paying attention or using a clone. The DNA40 delivers more power quicker than any previous board.

 

[dr g]

Now that's funny man, Their Windows Vista....lol. That's exactly what's it's like. Show lots of promise but fails to deliver. Maybe there will be a dna 7 that rescues their Vista.

Such a failure it created an entirely new market segment.

 

[KTMRider]

I'm not a Hana fan boy and I almost regret buying one but only because I don't need so many DNA40 mods and the form factor isn't as comfortable as my VS DNA40 or rDNA40. The 510 isn't shaky, it's his atomizer. My Hana v4 had kinda tight threads with my KF v4 and Infinite CLT v2. It's fine after swapping atomizers a few times. I don't think he tighten his atomizer down fully which would cause it to wobble a bit. Reading the comments (Hana's response and others), Hana is correct that the specs for a 510 connector has very loose tolerances for the threads and varies by manufacturer so it's not their fault. You will find this on any 510 connector, not just Hana's.

The screen protector isn't really an issue either. The bare screen is glass but has a coating and it's almost smudge proof.

One thing in Bamvaping's review is the fire button is crooked which would bother me. Probably easy to adjust yourself rather than sending it back.

 

[KTMRider]

Unfortunately, it looks like the screen issues are still there...sorta.... But at least it's correcting now..

I bet the folks at Evolv are so ready to put this board behind them and start over with the next generation... It's like their "Windows Vista"....

My Hana v4 glitches but corrects itself when you release the fire button. It doesn't happen often but when it does, it's not a big deal. Vape quality isn't affected at all.

My new VS DNA40 doesn't have any screen glitch and works perfectly, just like my co-op boards.

 

[RebelGolfer72]

If you get a delay you are either not paying attention or using a clone. The DNA40 delivers more power quicker than any previous board.

Sorry, but I don't buy clones. Period. In watts mode (not TC mode which has a boost function), there is indeed a delay of approx 60-100ms from the time you hit the fire button until it starts to deliver power. And it ramps up the power- you can see it on the display, and you can see it on a scope.

Look at about 20:00 in this video, give or take. This confirms what I felt and measured myself.

 

[RebelGolfer72]

To be fair, the DNA40 is suppose to be dumping 40watts every time you push the button for the initial heat up... regardless of what power level you have set. And I think it does exactly that. But I don't have a scope to check and there may be some delay when you push the fire button before it actually delivers power. I don't really know and probably G can answer that better. It would be interesting to know if there is a delay, but based on past DNA devices I'm guessing there really isn't. I'll wait for others with better first hand knowledge to chime in on this one.

In temperature mode, yes, it hits the coil hard at first to bring up to temp, then starts adjusting accordingly, but in wats mode, it's the opposite- delay, then it ramps up to set power.

 

[dr g]

Sorry, but I don't buy clones. Period. In watts mode (not TC mode which has a boost function), there is indeed a delay of approx 60-100ms from the time you hit the fire button until it starts to deliver power. And it ramps up the power- you can see it on the display, and you can see it on a scope.

All DNAs have always ramped up power. They just didn't display live wattage. Power is instantaneous in all modes on every DNA I own, including 40s and 25s.

 

[Rikk]

I'm constantly using my Flask and now my V4 Hana and I've never noticed a delay like that. When I hit power I get power. It ramps up real fast past my desired wattage then back down to my set wattage. I couldn't stand it if there was a delay like that. I wouldn't have bought a second. Even from a sleep state it hits right away, hits hard right through the DNA welcome screen with no delay that I've ever noticed.

Whomever asked, the Flask has no screen protector/protection. You can buy them - I think J wraps sells screen protectors for the Flask if you want one, but it's not standard.

 

[Jazzman]

Such a failure it created an entirely new market segment.

You know G, I have given huge credit to Evolv for starting the TL stampede that is moving vaping in what I consider a very positive direction. And I still give them credit or that. But just like Vista having a tremendous amount of really good tech and a solid basis for an excellent OS, it fell short of the mark in some significant ways. And those shortcoming were not addressed until the next major release of a Windows OS.

I do see parallels here, but never thought of them until Rebel put it in those terms. And yeah... it does fit.

I hope Evolv decides that user upgradability is in their best interest and pursues a path that allows that in their next product release. That will go a long way to solving any initial quality issues they've had (I know, you fail to see that they have had ANY quality issues that needed to be addressed. But many do). As I've said previously, even Provape has seen the value of being able to address bugs and add features through firmware updates. So I think Evolv needs to give serious consideration to their next, WIN7, product so they can satisfy the wants and desires of their users.

You can disagree all you want, but I feel strongly in this and I feel this is the only viable option for any player in the modern vaping chip manufacturer market.

 

[Jazzman]

In temperature mode, yes, it hits the coil hard at first to bring up to temp, then starts adjusting accordingly, but in wats mode, it's the opposite- delay, then it ramps up to set power.

You might be right Rebel. TBH, it's been a long time since I've run any device in wattage mode and I really have no idea how the DNA40 chip is doing that. I've pretty much totally switched over to TL mode on all my devices at this point, so I really only look at power regulation from that perspective now.

 

[RebelGolfer72]

All DNAs have always ramped up power. They just didn't display live wattage. Power is instantaneous in all modes on every DNA I own, including 40s and 25s.

Sorry, but you just contradicted yourself over the past few posts for no good reason.
First you say it doesn't have a delay and ramp up... I show you proof, and you change your story saying "they all do that" --so which time are you lying? When you say they don't ramp up, or when you say they do?
And your last statement, are you contradicting the first half of what you just said, or are you implying the delay is not there. Again, you are wrong, and I have given proof.

Sorry that you have to feel like you have to defend Evolv on a simple discussion. I'm not bashing Evolv. I like their stuff, just as I like YiHi SX stuff. Do some Evolv boards have shortcomings? Yes, they all do (DNA30 instant on, no ramp up...BUT can't down regulate, no reverse battery protection etc... Dna40 regulates both up and down, reverse battery, temp control. BUT there is a delay and a slow ramp up in watts mode). Do YiHi boards have shortcomings! Yes they do as well.

It's ok to like different things...it's ok to like Evolv and YiHi and any other OEM...it's ok to like them, but find the imperfections in their products...it's ok to be "right" in a discussion..it's also ok to not be right from time to time....

Quite frankly, I don't want to waste time arguing with you so you can get your kicks in getting someone upset.. Quite frankly, it's those telling lies and trying to infringe on our right to Vape that we should be fighting with...and within the community, we should be able to learn from each other-- I'm sure you know things that I can learn from you, just as I know you can learn from me. So if you want a battle, you won't get it here with me. If you want a battle, go take on the propaganda machine that is feeding lies about vaping to the masses through social media

 

[dr g]

Sorry, but you just contradicted yourself over the past few posts for no good reason.
First you say it doesn't have a delay and ramp up... I show you proof, and you change your story saying "they all do that" --so

No, it means they all behave in a similar way. If you interpret that as ramping up then they all ramp up, but apparently sometimes you interpret that as instantaneous power. You are the one with contradictory standards. Basically you press the button and power goes right away. It always builds, watch the voltage on a DNA20 or 30. It's just not as obvious because the corresponding wattage is not displayed live. It also always ramps down.

 

[retird]

A lot of good discussion over the past few pages....some good info and a bit of mis-info... that's just social media....one thing is constant tho..... Evolv makes a solid product....any new technology can have a few things that need tweaking...the display bug has been a pesky little critter but Evolv has addressed it and it never effected the major functions of the technology.... that being power regulation and temperature protection...many have wanted to say this is a major earth shattering flaw... not so.,... but needed addressing and it has been....a few other things needed addressing and they were addressed also....


Other companies have followed Evolv with temp protection and are seeing issues with theirs also and are working to correct them.... as these get corrected who benefits? I think we do... the vaping community.....


I'm just glad there is so many choices available to the community.... one size does not fit all....wasn't that way a few years ago when we had only a mech mod and atty with a cartridge that held about 10 drops if juice......

 

[HolmanGT]

No, it means they all behave in a similar way. If you interpret that as ramping up then they all ramp up, but apparently sometimes you interpret that as instantaneous power. You are the one with contradictory standards. Basically you press the button and power goes right away. It always builds, watch the voltage on a DNA20 or 30. It's just not as obvious because the corresponding wattage is not displayed live. It also always ramps down.

"G" - This is the comment you made lastnight that is impossible: "All DNAs have always ramped up power. They just didn't display live wattage. Power is instantaneous in all modes on every DNA I own, including 40s and 25s.

You can have it one way or the other but not both.

A lot of good discussion over the past few pages....some good info and a bit of mis-info... that's just social media....one thing is constant tho..... Evolv makes a solid product....any new technology can have a few things that need tweaking...the display bug has been a pesky little critter but Evolv has addressed it and it never effected the major functions of the technology.... that being power regulation and temperature protection...many have wanted to say this is a major earth shattering flaw... not so.,... but needed addressing and it has been....a few other things needed addressing and they were addressed also....

Other companies have followed Evolv with temp protection and are seeing issues with theirs also and are working to correct them.... as these get corrected who benefits? I think we do... the vaping community.....

I'm just glad there is so many choices available to the community.... one size does not fit all....wasn't that way a few years ago when we had only a mech mod and atty with a cartridge that held about 10 drops if juice......

"Retird" - You make a statement here that is just a little hard to swallow and obviously not true. "one thing is constant tho..... Evolv makes a solid product". Just ask anyone that has one of their glitch boards. I don't mind you the "G" having a fondness for Evolv but the both of you are carrying it to extremes. If you think a glitchy display screen that has existed from the day of release thru today I would love to know how you define solid.

Now I am going to say that the both of you were nice to me the other day when I had my little rant about "Shock and Awe - Tiles" and I appreciate that. The niceties out of the way why don't you two stick to technical stuff. Every time you get off into the Evolv "Fanboy" realm you two are so obviously blinded by your ties to Evolv it is even getting embarrassing to read.

I mean:

"G" says it ramps and is instantaneous power out at the same time.

"Retird" says Evolv makes a solid product when just yesterday (or whenever) Hana Modz comes out with a brand new model V4 and it still has the DNA40 screen glitches.

Really Folks?

Unless you two are Mensa Members you are and have been for a long time now running the risk of just being plain insulting to the vaping community with some of the "Fanboy" claims that are obviously feelings and subjective opinions of your own making. Also to continuously argue opinions is a little like arguing religion you are just not going to win and you both have offended your share of Vapors for no good reason.

PS - I was going to rush out and buy the Hana Modz V4 until I read it still has the infamous "Screen Glitch" - now that has been taken off the table for me. It is a pretty good indicator that the Evolv board is not a stable product.

 

[retird]

You ought to buy the V4.... working great.... first Hana product I ever bought...only had the display "blink" once...and then it only showed 2 pixels variance for less than one second and corrected itself.... I guess that is a major issue to some and overstated by many as major life ending event for Evolv.... too funny.....

 

[retird]

I'm not a Hana fan boy and I almost regret buying one but only because I don't need so many DNA40 mods and the form factor isn't as comfortable as my VS DNA40 or rDNA40.

I've only bought one Hana myself and really didn't need it (no less than 8 DNA25's and 40's in my stable) but on sale for 135 bucks (regular price less than 150 bucks)... couldn't pass it up.... no regrets as some temp protect mods are 200 bucks and more....

Guess now that I own one Hana I'm a fanboy???

 

[KTMRider]

I've only bought one Hana myself and really didn't need it (no less than 8 DNA25's and 40's in my stable) but on sale for 135 bucks (regular price less than 150 bucks)... couldn't pass it up.... no regrets as some temp protect mods are 200 bucks and more....

Guess now that I own one Hana I'm a fanboy???
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Yes

I didn't want anyone thinking I was a fan boy when I was defending the v4. Bamvaping has some decent videos and good product shots but is kinda technically challenged. It's both good and bad for viewers. Good in that he sees a product from a layman's point of view. Bad in that he can't help a user and just criticize the product with no possible solution other than "send it back, it's broke" attitude.

 

[HolmanGT]

I've only bought one Hana myself and really didn't need it (no less than 8 DNA25's and 40's in my stable) but on sale for 135 bucks (regular price less than 150 bucks)... couldn't pass it up.... no regrets as some temp protect mods are 200 bucks and more....

Guess now that I own one Hana I'm a fanboy???
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Honestly Retird you just don't get it do you. The Hana Modz V4 is a good looking unit as far as I know well built albeit I have heard a few complaints about the 510 and a little difficultly in opening the battery door.

Now considering that Hana made a nice looking box with some buttons on it. The Screen Glitchy DNA40 is still a part of the package and IMHO a defective DNA40.

Now if I criticize the circuit board what does that possibly have to do with the Hana Modz package... Nothing. As far as the price drop if I was a Hana executive and the word came out that the DNA40 was still demonstrating "Glitchy Screen Problems" I would probably drop the price to get rid of them also.

As far as a "Fanboy" of Hana I don't know, really don't care, I just know that it gets a little old listening to you and the "G-man" defend ever problem that manifest itself on a DNA product. If your TV had a few glitches in the screen from time to time we both know you would be, IMO, upset enough to contact the vendor to get it fixed. Your willingness to live with bugs just because you got it at a reduced rate is your privilege after all you have been doing that with Evolv DNA products since TC first came out.