fc-2000 porous ceramic wick

[vapdivrr]

Nice Vap. I see what you were saying about the lava like roughness of the slotted wicks. I think the ones I have are the second from the right. So it looks from the pic that they went bigger with the grains and a more open pore structure, right?

yes the last batch that most recieved are the ones second from right, and i thought they were great, but these new ones seem to be even better. i only did this one set-up(the one in the video) but for such a low resistance coil to be performing this well is the best results i have had yet at .7 ohms. the new ones definatly seem to be opened up alot more which in turn you would think it would be more fragile, but it held up well. i got to look at the grains, i never thought about the size of them, but it makes sense to enlarge them, i think your right.

 

[vapdivrr]

Hey Vap ...

I meant leave horizontally overnight, but seeing that these slots aren't that wide, I'd imagine it would be in par with the currently available wicks as far as potential leakage is concerned.

my bad, you know i really dont know how they would hold up that way. for me i never leave my pv down, but like you said the scores are not very deep. in the pic you cant tell how deep they are but in the video you can see them clearly.

 

[Hello World]

my bad, you know i really dont know how they would hold up that way. for me i never leave my pv down, but like you said the scores are not very deep. in the pic you cant tell how deep they are but in the video you can see them clearly.

Interesting to note that the January wicks did leak a little when laid flat, the courser March wicks don't .... even with a .8mm gap in the hole. I used to always hold them in my hand while driving or find some other way to keep my PVs vertical, but not anyone ... I just toss them down on the console.

vaping a new DIY NF coffee flavor for the first time ... yummy!

 

[vapdivrr]

Interesting to note that the January wicks did leak a little when laid flat, the courser March wicks don't .... even with a .8mm gap in the hole. I used to always hold them in my hand while driving or find some other way to keep my PVs vertical, but not anyone ... I just toss them down on the console.

vaping a new DIY NF coffee flavor for the first time ... yummy!

so do you think it is the porosity of the wick that makes the difference?

 

[Hello World]

so do you think it is the porosity of the wick that makes the difference?

I think so. Seems to hold the juice, not sliding across. Mind you that's with the fill screw in. The wide .8mm space left in the wickhole allows lots of air in, vapes really well, but the tank's vacuum and the wick's porosity prevent it from leaking out. If I hold it upside down, then it'll slowly leak.

 

[Keithhe]

OK,

I hope it helps some on here, but the ability to use Elias method well is partly dependant on ability to hold the wick without breaking it, getting burned while trying to maintain a nice tight coil, evenly spaced. For what it is worth, and I don't do videos, here is what I do.

What you need:

Collet of size wick you are using. I saw a 4 pack at Home Depot with assorted sizes, but I already had one as part of my Dremel stuff. Look where Dremel related stuff is sold, and you can find these.

Hobby knife - These are readily available at home improvement stores anywhere. Same place you find utility box cutters and cost about $3-$4. I already had a few, but they are cheap to buy.

See photos below for how to do this. Note that differing brands of the knife might be slightly different, so modify body as needed for a snug to tight fit of the collet into the body of knife. Mine fit really well for the 1/8" wicks I use. To tighten the collet around wick, I simply twist a short piece of scrap kanthal around bridge of collet and tighten with needle nose pliers.

What makes this work so well is that only part of wick you need is exposed, no burned fingers, a lot of control to wrap, and great all around support of the wick inside collet/body so it does not break.

 

[DeadPerfect]

i recommended a collet pencil drill b4, but i wouldnt now. metal collets are to stiff and can break the wick. better to use wood. mini dowels drilled and cut like elias uses is better.

besides that, your asking for trouble having your wick stick out that much, 1/8th or not

 

[Keithhe]

i recommended a collet pencil drill b4, but i wouldnt now. metal collets are to stiff and can break the wick. better to use wood. mini dowels drilled and cut like elias uses is better.

besides that, your asking for trouble having your wick stick out that much, 1/8th or not

I can slide the wick all the way in, or out, as needed. It was just random distance in photo. The collet completly surounds the wick on all sides and gives very good support. I have never broken a wick yet, except once when my mod fell over and landed on one which was on the table.

 

[Railrust]

with the ribbon you may want to look into the turspedie method(post#1457) this is an alternative to the ehw method for ribbon. the main thing is the tightness of the coils, and for ribbon this is especially true. i guess if your good at hand wrapping ribbon you could give it a go but the .8 ribbon might be tough. if you do not get the ribbon tight on the wick you will get some dry hits for some time until the gunk builds up, this can take a while to happen. another way you might want to try is the cheesec cloth thread. this is added to the wick before coiling, this takes up the gaps. i havent done much ribbon, the couple of times i did do it, i did the turspedie way, and it worked pretty good, although it did take about a half tank to break in. the safest & quickest way to get a good vape is to wrap the 1/8 wick with 30g and do a few wraps of cheese cloth before coiling. this way it is not imperitive that you use the ehw method, you could just cc, then hand wrap, and you will be vaping with little break in time. the tighter the better with ceramic, and the ehw does this the best for me. so definatly when you ask " besides not breaking them, what is the most important thing to watch" it would be the tightness of the coil. what genny are you using? if using a zap, watch the top cap when taking it off, this cap is a wick eater, also if using a zap, i believe you have to cut down the wicks slightly before installing. besides this, just expect some break in time, and dont push the volts to high at first, once she breaks in then you can go up.

Im using the AC9 and also a RSST. Thanks again man....your great at explaining this stuff. Caught your vid. I think I will do the cheesewiz thing....I already got the cheesecloth and I boiled it and its dried now. Going to try this with 30g as well....thanks again!!

 

[Railrust]

thank you for that, i wish that all vapors can just try this ceramic just once, i think that would be all it would take for them to vape ceramic all the time. i have heard nothing but good things about the natural mod, it is very affordable, has great contacts, and is readily available. i know someone who has had one now for a few days and absolutly loves it.

I have some high end ones and the natural works as well as they do...

 

[NamVet68]

I have some high end ones and the natural works as well as they do...

+1 on the Natural.... I love mine. I've used it with 18650s, 18500 (with a Kick) and dual 18350s....works like a champ.
Best of all...with an RSST on it - it looks like a Hybrid. The two are a perfect match:



Todd has a review of it & I agree 100% with his evaluation : " A Crackin'-wee MOD "
Smok - The Natural Mod - YouTube

BTW... I did the modifications he described in the video on mine also - shaved the 501 connector, replaced the fire button switch spring with one out of a click-pen, and polished the plating off of all the internal contact points [they are all brass underneath].
In the video he shows that you have a gap when using the Kick with protected (button-top) batteries, but I didn't run into that with mine. It screws together flush using the 18650 tube with a protected 18500 & Kick.

 

[Railrust]

Well guess I have the old school ceramic wicks however,,,Did the cheesewiz thing and man that wick started blowin me away right from the start. Great thing is the favor.....WOW! Bad thing IMO tho is hardly any TH...miss that but clouds and clouds of smoke. No harsh taste at all. Thanks Vapman.....your the best! Well its on my RSST right now with a 3/4 wrap of 30g about 1.8 is what the Provari shows (a little to much for me) but still kickin some ..... I only vape with 6mg nic so TH is not really good whatever I do. I will try a LR coil next and see if that might help. Your the man that got me started on RBA's as well. Good stuff Vapdivrr keep the passion going!!

 

[vapdivrr]

Well guess I have the old school ceramic wicks however,,,Did the cheesewiz thing and man that wick started blowin me away right from the start. Great thing is the favor.....WOW! Bad thing IMO tho is hardly any TH...miss that but clouds and clouds of smoke. No harsh taste at all. Thanks Vapman.....your the best! Well its on my RSST right now with a 3/4 wrap of 30g about 1.8 is what the Provari shows (a little to much for me) but still kickin some ..... I only vape with 6mg nic so TH is not really good whatever I do. I will try a LR coil next and see if that might help. Your the man that got me started on RBA's as well. Good stuff Vapdivrr keep the passion going!!

thanks buddy, for me personally, i never liked to much throat hit when i got into vaping, i think thats why i went from making my coils from like 2 to 3 ohms down to under 1.5. i believe that when you have a higher resistance coil and you zap it with hi voltages you will get more of a TH. i think it is from the thinner 32g wire and high volts. when i went to a thicker wire & lower volts, i found it to be a smoother TH. now with ceramic it is even smoother, so i know what you mean. you can try a thinner wire & higher volts to increase TH, but then i believe the flavor is decreased, or try a super low resistance. usually the thicker the wire, the smoother the vape, but if you go really low with the 28g with little amount of wraps the TH is increased a little. a 2/3 wrap of 28g on a mechanical mod might work for you and much of the reason might be is the high wattage. in the last vid i did i used this set-up, this set-up puts out well over 20 watts and has a pretty good TH with great flavor. also like you said a higher nic content would help as would also turning the gennys airhole away from the wick slightly. also i have heard that a very short drip tip can heat things up as well.

 

[Railrust]

thanks buddy, for me personally, i never liked to much throat hit when i got into vaping, i think thats why i went from making my coils from like 2 to 3 ohms down to under 1.5. i believe that when you have a higher resistance coil and you zap it with hi voltages you will get more of a TH. i think it is from the thinner 32g wire and high volts. when i went to a thicker wire & lower volts, i found it to be a smoother TH. now with ceramic it is even smoother, so i know what you mean. you can try a thinner wire & higher volts to increase TH, but then i believe the flavor is decreased, or try a super low resistance. usually the thicker the wire, the smoother the vape, but if you go really low with the 28g with little amount of wraps the TH is increased a little. a 2/3 wrap of 28g on a mechanical mod might work for you and much of the reason might be is the high wattage. in the last vid i did i used this set-up, this set-up puts out well over 20 watts and has a pretty good TH with great flavor. also like you said a higher nic content would help as would also turning the gennys airhole away from the wick slightly. also i have heard that a very short drip tip can heat things up as well.

Got it on my natural and loving it. Getting better and better. Going to put it on the provari and crank up some volts to see.

Thanks again my friend!

 

[ricks]

What gives more flavor? 3 wrap or 6 wrap coils.

 

[Keithhe]

Per Vap's recommendation, I too ordered "The Natural Mod" and have seen the video review from "The Scott". Mines in the mail still, but looking forward to my first mechanical, although no idea why.

In a nut shell, how is a mechanical different/better than a VV or VW ?? Just not really sure.

 

[Nomoreash]

Per Vap's recommendation, I too ordered "The Natural Mod" and have seen the video review from "The Scott". Mines in the mail still, but looking forward to my first mechanical, although no idea why.

In a nut shell, how is a mechanical different/better than a VV or VW ?? Just not really sure.

More power to push low ohms. Since there's no regulator there's no watt or ohm limit until you reach the batteries limits, you're vaping straight from the battery. This really helps with low ohm setups that many use. Say for instance you have a .8 ohm coil and wick setup, with a fresh battery on a mechanical that would be 22ish watts. Most regulated mods have a 15ish or below watt limit if they would run a setup with that low of ohms at all.

 

[Nomoreash]

What gives more flavor? 3 wrap or 6 wrap coils.

If you let it heat up to temp 6 wraps will since there's more coil to vaporize the liquid but you'll have more lag with with the 6 wrap. You'll probably just have to experiment to find what works best for you. For me I've found 5 wraps and 30 ga to be best for me on my Provari, put's me right at 1.5 ohms but if I was using a mechanical I'd go 28 ga and lower ohms.

 

[Railrust]

Hey Vapman....just a side note...put it on the Provari and took it up to 4.5 V and OMG!!!!!!!!!!! The secret for me is going to be a sub 1 coil and a mechanical!!

 

[Elias]

What gives more flavor? 3 wrap or 6 wrap coils.

From the number of wraps Ive done it seems to me on the cermics its better flavor the lower the wrap count and the thicker the kanthal, I tried all the way up to 36awg 9/10 wrap, but find myself back down to 3/4 30awg.

All the way up in voltage too, again find myself on the lowest voltage with mechanical mod.

Seems that sub 1 ohm wraps work best, I try to keep mine at 0.8 to 1 ohm there isnt much play in the values at that low resistance...