fc-2000 porous ceramic wick

[calpis]

i am really not sure if this could be your problem, i am looking at my wick&coil set-up and seems the same. my wick is just below the pp, and my last coil is just below top of wick, maybe 1/16 of an in. i dont think its all that good if you have alot of space from top of wick to last coil, for the top part of the wick is wicking with no purpose. if may just be the fact that the wick is simply not broken in yet and not having its full wicking capability as of yet.

lol, I just forgot to take the fill screw out. I left it in because I was breaking it in with one of those tiny usb passthrough devices so I wouldn't have to drain my batteries and be able to lay it down on its side. Now the real question is, should I just pour out the half tank of not so good dekang juice out and fill it in with something more proper? Or soldier it out and vape it until its bone dry?

 

[Rule62]

that is true, it is hard to believe that the wicks are just as expensive as the device. it will be just a matter of time before they become more affordable, for all new things are generally to expensive. yes, maybe those on more of a budget for now are not willing to pay the extra money for these wicks but thanks to the ones that are willing, for this creates the need for more, which in turn will ultimately create competition in the product sales, hopefully lowering the prices. i dont think this is just something that is here today gone tomorrow kind of thing, these wicks truely create a much better flavor then ss, no doubt about it, so in this regard it is a game changer. its just a matter of some possible tweeks in certain areas of this product to really win the war, but for now i think its a promising start.

I'm certainly taking a 'wait and see' attitude toward ceramics. I'm not ready yet to abandon ss mesh. I'm sure I'll try them eventually. If there's one thing I've learned about vaping equipment, it's been to not jump onto bandwagons too quickly.

 

[vapdivrr]

I'm certainly taking a 'wait and see' attitude toward ceramics. I'm not ready yet to abandon ss mesh. I'm sure I'll try them eventually. If there's one thing I've learned about vaping equipment, it's been to not jump onto bandwagons too quickly.

very true, for next week the whole wick might just clog up or something. i have heard of ceramic like clogging up and not sure if its recoverable if that happens, although it wasnt these particular wicks that i have heard this about. yes there is no doubt that it is way to early for me to just abandon the ss, for i would need to get at least a month out of one of these wicks. if i can get a month out of one with these results then i would have to say that my ss mesh is 100 percent gone. so until then i am just enjoying the initial results

 

[vapdivrr]

lol, I just forgot to take the fill screw out. I left it in because I was breaking it in with one of those tiny usb passthrough devices so I wouldn't have to drain my batteries and be able to lay it down on its side. Now the real question is, should I just pour out the half tank of not so good dekang juice out and fill it in with something more proper? Or soldier it out and vape it until its bone dry?

if this is all you are vaping for now until its fully broke in then why not use some good juice. but if you are just vaping here and there and vaping another device then maybe just leave it in

 

[Thrasher]

i agree, many things come along and cost a fortune at first. not just vaping, because someone has to foot the bill for the engineering and r&d.
2 things come to mind though.
Yields: how hard is it to actually produce this stuff? this will determine the price more then anything and will also dictate if it is worth continuing production and/or lowering the price. as well as knowing your not going to be buying handfuls of them either, a few and your done.
and as with all things new,
health - many of the companies first contacted about this in the beginning expressly implied they do not recommend ceramic products for anything being inhaled.
so time will tell.

 

[vapdivrr]

i agree, many things come along and cost a fortune at first. not just vaping, because someone has to foot the bill for the engineering and r&d.
2 things come to mind though.
Yields: how hard is it to actually produce this stuff? this will determine the price more then anything and will also dictate if it is worth continuing production and/or lowering the price. as well as knowing your not going to be buying handfuls of them either, a few and your done.
and as with all things new,
health - many of the companies first contacted about this in the beginning expressly implied they do not recommend ceramic products for anything being inhaled.
so time will tell.

agreed, didnt know that about companies not wanting to carry them over speculation or even more then that, i think we are all guiney pigs for the next generation of vaporers, probably in whatever we are vaping.

 

[DSmooch]

Bubble stone man.. its supposed to be dirt cheap. Of course you got ppl cashin in on the hype and its called efficient entrepreneurship in a very dynamic environment. I say props to that and in fact to any initiative that makes the wheel turn before this whole thing gets regulated. Tank ecigs are in stock at 20$, everybody else's outa stock at 11$ there's probably an equilibrium somewhere in there for now but it will remain expensive until its widely recognized as THE wick. if it is, production, will catch up.
I'm usually more of a wait and see too.. I believe in this one though but definitly guiney pigs lol

 

[vapdivrr]

you have 6 caravela's? man you have quit the arsonal of mods & attys for sure. i just won a caravela lottery, so i should be getting one here pretty soon, how do you like it? before the ceramic wicks what was your go to set-up?

 

[Thrasher]

didnt know that about companies not wanting to carry them

it wasnt suppliers, then this first got rolling several people contacted companies like umm i think 3m was one of them and few others asking if their ceramic products could be used for our purpose and they really werent too agreeable with the idea of using ceramic product for something being inhaled.

the bubble stone idea worries me as who knows what that is even made out of or how its fuzed together. we put a lot of things in an aquarium i dont think i would readily put in my mouth lol
i am watching all this with real interest though and dont want to be perceived as always looking for the negatives, i just always try to present the side of things not mentioned much or thought about.

 

[DSmooch]

yeah, a bit immoderate on the caravella I'll have to agree.. but you'll understand soon enough LOL
I think I've developped some kind of a fetish for the thing... my wife is scared... and me too!
before the ceramic I was on #300, 28g for ~ .8-.9ohm on vela. I kept the exact same setup, just literally switched the wick. I was even rolling and pre-coiling at 3mm, the exact size of those rods!

 

[vapdivrr]

yeah, a bit immoderate on the caravella I'll have to agree.. but you'll understand soon enough LOL
I think I've developped some kind of a fetish for the thing... my wife is scared... and me too!
before the ceramic I was on #300, 28g for ~ .8-.9ohm on vela. I kept the exact same setup, just literally switched the wick. I was even rolling and pre-coiling at 3mm, the exact size of those rods!

awesome, i cant wait for it.

 

[vapdivrr]

it wasnt suppliers, then this first got rolling several people contacted companies like umm i think 3m was one of them and few others asking if their ceramic products could be used for our purpose and they really werent too agreeable with the idea of using ceramic product for something being inhaled.

the bubble stone idea worries me as who knows what that is even made out of or how its fuzed together. we put a lot of things in an aquarium i dont think i would readily put in my mouth lol
i am watching all this with real interest though and dont want to be perceived as always looking for the negatives, i just always try to present the side of things not mentioned much or thought about.

hey about the looking negative thing, this is what these posts are all about, different opinions and ideas, its all good. and i appreciate everything.

 

[Gunner83]

stop it, are you being impulsive now? lol
Those particular wicks have an effect on personality; at 6.5$ a piece you will discover new levels of patience and gentleness...
jokes apart, I'm sure u'll like them...

I just had (1) 3-pack in my cart on Tank's website, but I couldn't pull the trigger once the shipping was added on. It would come out to about $8 per wick. Which isn't really bad, assuming these things last as long as some people are reporting.

I think I'll still have to wait it out. Besides, all they have is 1/8th size and I still haven't managed to drill my AGA-T's wick hole out to 1/8 yet.

 

[vapdivrr]

I just had (1) 3-pack in my cart on Tank's website, but I couldn't pull the trigger once the shipping was added on. It would come out to about $8 per wick. Which isn't really bad, assuming these things last as long as some people are reporting.

I think I'll still have to wait it out. Besides, all they have is 1/8th size and I still haven't managed to drill my AGA-T's wick hole out to 1/8 yet.

no doubt, these wicks are so expensive compared to ss mesh, i am just hoping they will produce for a while. fingers crossed.

 

[EricSFla]

So far i love mine in my ac9. Flavor is great. I do have to keep topping off but i am ok with that. Hopefully soon they will make longer wicks. I bought five just to make sure i had extras to compensate for my learning curve, but happily on my first one.

 

[Dieseler]

After trying these now from DV before they sold out the 1/8 in for my DID20.
For me ceramic is so so as it does not self saturate itself unless tilted then i still tend to run into a dry wick.
With the cap off i can see that the ceramic is not not keeping up after multiple fires in tilted position and then because of that the coils glow and will impart a harsh taste.
Mine is broken in as i have run numerous tanks thru it but act the same it will not self saturate itself.

As an example i can roll a 400 and a 500 mesh wick simply stick it in the tank and leave it upright (no tilt) and within seconds the whole wick is saturated and i can fire that wick in upright position and it never runs dry even with back to back fireings.

I'm use my DIY e-liquid @ 85pg/15vg .

But i feel there is hope as i seen a fella from Germany demonstrate in video a "white ceramic wick" in standup position with many back to back firings without the wick going dry and no glowing coils, i could see that wick self saturate itself like the mesh does.

You could also see that top part of the wick darkened and he demonstrated with a torch how he cleaned it nice and white again.
Perhaps one day that type will be available here in the USA.
His came to him as a sample in Germany from a German company.
So until then i wait . ; )

 

[vapdivrr]

So far i love mine in my ac9. Flavor is great. I do have to keep topping off but i am ok with that. Hopefully soon they will make longer wicks. I bought five just to make sure i had extras to compensate for my learning curve, but happily on my first one.

man that good to know, currently i have the 3/32 in the aga/ waiting for my 1/8 wicks to come, so i can set-up in my ac-9, but had doubts about the lenght. i grew up in the city of sunrise BTW, and went to piper high.

 

[vapdivrr]

After trying these now from DV before they sold out the 1/8 in for my DID20.
For me ceramic is so so as it does not self saturate itself unless tilted then i still tend to run into a dry wick.
With the cap off i can see that the ceramic is not not keeping up after multiple fires in tilted position and then because of that the coils glow and will impart a harsh taste.
Mine is broken in as i have run numerous tanks thru it but act the same it will not self saturate itself.

As an example i can roll a 400 and a 500 mesh wick simply stick it in the tank and leave it upright (no tilt) and within seconds the whole wick is saturated and i can fire that wick in upright position and it never runs dry even with back to back fireings.

I'm use my DIY e-liquid @ 85pg/15vg .

But i feel there is hope as i seen a fella from Germany demonstrate in video a "white ceramic wick" in standup position with many back to back firings without the wick going dry and no glowing coils, i could see that wick self saturate itself like the mesh does.

You could also see that top part of the wick darkened and he demonstrated with a torch how he cleaned it nice and white again.
Perhaps one day that type will be available here in the USA.
His came to him as a sample in Germany from a German company.
So until then i wait . ; )

i agree with the fact that being held upright it doesnt wick like ss mesh, but in my findings as of now, if i just tilt to my normal position the wick has been keeping up very well, no issues at all with any bad or burnt taste whatsoever. do you keep in your fill screw? what wire and resistance are you using?

 

[graybuck]

After trying these now from DV before they sold out the 1/8 in for my DID20.
For me ceramic is so so as it does not self saturate itself unless tilted then i still tend to run into a dry wick.
With the cap off i can see that the ceramic is not not keeping up after multiple fires in tilted position and then because of that the coils glow and will impart a harsh taste.
Mine is broken in as i have run numerous tanks thru it but act the same it will not self saturate itself.

As an example i can roll a 400 and a 500 mesh wick simply stick it in the tank and leave it upright (no tilt) and within seconds the whole wick is saturated and i can fire that wick in upright position and it never runs dry even with back to back fireings.

I'm use my DIY e-liquid @ 85pg/15vg .

But i feel there is hope as i seen a fella from Germany demonstrate in video a "white ceramic wick" in standup position with many back to back firings without the wick going dry and no glowing coils, i could see that wick self saturate itself like the mesh does.

You could also see that top part of the wick darkened and he demonstrated with a torch how he cleaned it nice and white again.
Perhaps one day that type will be available here in the USA.
His came to him as a sample in Germany from a German company.
So until then i wait . ; )

I have been using the 3/32 small wicks in my ZAP. I am not real impressed either. The SS Mesh wicks better and I have now broken 3 of these just trying to adjust the coil. All of them I pre wrap. The first broke while I was prewrapping. The second worked until I put the top back on the Zap and realized the wick was just a pinch too long and hit the top of the cap. I tried to grind a touch off and snap it broke. The last one was a bit shorter and it worked for a while. I ran a couple tanks through it. Then I tried readjusting the hot spots on the coil slightly and snap it broke. So I am back to SS until I can get a few more but they are too expesive to keep breaking and don't add much over very inexpensive SS mesh.

 

[vapdivrr]

I have been using the 3/32 small wicks in my ZAP. I am not real impressed either. The SS Mesh wicks better and I have now broken 3 of these just trying to adjust the coil. All of them I pre wrap. The first broke while I was prewrapping. The second worked until I put the top back on the Zap and realized the wick was just a pinch too long and hit the top of the cap. I tried to grind a touch off and snap it broke. The last one was a bit shorter and it worked for a while. I ran a couple tanks through it. Then I tried readjusting the hot spots on the coil slightly and snap it broke. So I am back to SS until I can get a few more but they are too expesive to keep breaking and don't add much over very inexpensive SS mesh.

i would agree if i ran across the same problems for sure. i guess i got lucky enough to reach the break in time with no issues, so by then i was hooked on the flavor, and now cant imagine going back to ss mesh. i knew these wicks wouldnt be for everyone, for they are definatly fiddley. it would be awesome if they were more sturdy and broke in 100 percent off the bat.