I suspect the same places that sell fish sticks will also sell corals for aquariums? What is this cosmic connection between wick materials and fish shops?
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I suspect the same places that sell fish sticks will also sell corals for aquariums? What is this cosmic connection between wick materials and fish shops?
That has been tried I believe. There is a thread on it somewhere in here but I don't think it worked too well. With our new technologies coutesy of those such as yourself it maybe worth another look, combined with some ribbon wire perhaps. I think the pumice used in the experiment was fairly soft but there are many varieties with different mineral compositions. Very available and cheap though, definitely worth a revisit by someone with the tools and the time.
yep... had a rough one yesterday
I remember seeing that thread, gotta go over it... I remembered RiP referring to the 28g as hot coil so I kinda took it as is..
nice one, thanks g.
Absolutely agree with this. I have complete piece of mind about using these as my own little experiments show that these wicks are not decomposing and do not change at all under extreme temps. However, it is in everybody's interest that full disclosure on materials is forthcoming. In that way, people can make an informed choice about whether they want to try them out or not. What is a good strategy to pursue do you think? Should we put some pressure on suppliers to find out from the makers? I wonder if Scuba Dan has gone down that road already? Anyone have a friend in China that could make some inquiries (I think that is where most of these materials are being made)? One possible snag however, verbal descriptions and assurances are merely anecdotal and if there is no current requirement to do so, is any company going to put on paper detailed information on materials if there is no legal or monetary reason for it?
Just on a side note, I was looking at images of porous corals today. Some of these have very fine porous structures. How would this be for some experiments? Talk about a no mystery material, it is basically pure calcium carbonate. Should keep all the chemo-phobics happy. Great for healthy teeth and bones
Here is a core sample:
This one is a little too porous but other varieties have much finer structures. Maybe some potential here.
glad to hear I'm not alone. so that makes two of us! see what I mean lol? So the pressure strategy here falls a bit short...
ppl are buying the stuff like there's no tomorrow and to my defense, I can only say I was one of the first in line.
I asked vap because I think he has the resources to find that info. Other than that, maybe RiP the maker of the AC9. But again, you're totally right, there is strictly no assurances we'd get any valid data.
As we were trying to find a local top fin substitute, someone said that porous ceramic could be found in ceramic water filters. To make a long story short he later explained there was a time when the pores (in the ceramic) were created with lead deposits that would dissolve in the process. When that was forbidden, makers made sure to keep the new technology to themselves. A puzzling fact is that these filters have not been approved in Israel for unknown reasons. Maybe just bureaucracy; some say only because it does a poor job at effectively filtering water in comparison to other types of filters. Here again, a lot of unknowns...
We all very much like the freedom of being self-regulated; unfortunately, with it comes the freedom of being irresponsible.
All we can do really is strongly encourage the maker to kindly come forward and help us...
or....
Steve, I love the idea of vaping coral! omg it sounds really good!
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rick, its a good practice to boil them once or twice, give them a good torch and you should be good.
congrats, hope you'll like it
This is what it says on DiscountVaper's website:
I plan on just following that, once mine get here. They shipped today, so it should be soon.
obtainable? its been a while but shouldnt be a problem. accuracy? who knows. // less about comparisons and more about composition.
you know i would have to say 1/8. if the wick is 7/64, and then some wiggle room is needed, that might make it 8/64, which is 1/8. the only dimention smaller would be into 128ths.
thanks gdeal, definatly so many factors. my 3 wrap of 30g on the 1/8 wick is really going strong now, 100 percent broken in, and seems to be on par with my 3/32 wick.
Absolutely agree with this. I have complete piece of mind about using these as my own little experiments show that these wicks are not decomposing and do not change at all under extreme temps. However, it is in everybody's interest that full disclosure on materials is forthcoming. In that way, people can make an informed choice about whether they want to try them out or not. What is a good strategy to pursue do you think? Should we put some pressure on suppliers to find out from the makers? I wonder if Scuba Dan has gone down that road already? Anyone have a friend in China that could make some inquiries (I think that is where most of these materials are being made)? One possible snag however, verbal descriptions and assurances are merely anecdotal and if there is no current requirement to do so, is any company going to put on paper detailed information on materials if there is no legal or monetary reason for it?
Just on a side note, I was looking at images of porous corals today. Some of these have very fine porous structures. How would this be for some experiments? Talk about a no mystery material, it is basically pure calcium carbonate. Should keep all the chemo-phobics happy. Great for healthy teeth and bones
Here is a core sample:
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This one is a little too porous but other varieties have much finer structures. Maybe some potential here.
you know as i am a scuba diver i have often thought about coral wicks, i look at them every day, as i have collected quite a few of them over the years. as i remember, only in marine sanctuarys is it illegal to take corals, dead or alive. i have a good candidate that i am looking at right now so maybe will give it a go. vaping dead creatures?
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I thought you might find it tempting
. Little creatures doing all the work and we reap the benefits. There is stacks of the stuff here in Aus. Family has a beach house on a local island and you can pick it up off the shore every day (no laws about it here). There are so many varieties and structures there must be some that would suit our needs.
I thought you might find it tempting
just looking at them, you would think it should work perfectly. and they should be a little stronger then ceramic. as i end this note i am going to torch one to see how it reacts. will get back in a few.
Just be careful on that. From what I have read calcium carbonate will decompose at around 800C. So no problem in a genny but your torch may go hotter than that. Interested see your results.
Good thing is the only thing that happened is that CO2 was liberated and you only produced calcium oxide (lime)
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same here, it just kind of explodes with a torch, and it doesnt have a pleasent smell.
the way it just fell apart probably means it would be kind of hard to make such a small wick
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