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Then went to cut up rest of 3 inch top tin stone. got like 5 pieces, now the diamond cutter is dull. sparking like crazy, not cutting the rest. Dont get this wheel for the stones
Dsmooch in an earlier post mentioned the 545 Dremel wheel, which I used to cut 18 sticks out of a Topfin, and still good to cut up a few more stones. Like you, I also didn't have much success with the diamond wheel illustrated in your post.
 

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So I have been vaping off of several attys with ceramic. There is one set-up that I keep coming back to...the Cobra with a 3/32 FC-2000 wick using .8mm ribbon kanthal at .8ohms. This set up also performs better overall on a provari than on a mechanical.

I think the combination of a number of factors together are driving this. The power limiting effect of the provari, the lower heat sink effect of the wick, the right amount of gap between the wick and wick hole and the length of the Cobra wick hole. The 3/32 just doesn't need 20 watts of power. :2c:

Which is why I'm sad I own a Cobra but can't find a 3/32 wick anywhere. :(

You say you use .8mm ribbon. Would .5mm be too big/be unnecessary?
 

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@DPerfect - I was a bit surprised that with wet cutting your wheel did not last that long, but I agree with Hello World, I was able to get bit more life out of the dremel version.

@Maconi - .5mm ribbon should work well. While surface area is not as great, you can get the additional benefit of less mass to heat. One technique that you can use to resize a 1/8 wick is to use the "WyseOne" method using a standard 545 dremel wheel (not the ez545). The hole in the 545 is 3/32 and you can use that to ground down the wick...if you have a steady hand.....
 

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hey guys, after inquirys about the composition of the fc-2000 wicks, i contact someone who can answer this question. this guy came up with the idea and manufacters them. he ultimatlely sells them to the 3 places that we know of. he assures me that they are aliminum oxide and definatly contain no lead. also much of the make up of alumina has been ommitted from the wicks, leaving a simplier make up. i guess in alumina there are alot of different things that make up the whole picture but many were unneccesary for the fc composition. this alumina is a pretty common material that is used in our every day life, this with the fact that it is fired at over 2000 degrees makes me feel kind of satisfied that it is safe. i would tend to believe that there could be more of a health issue with the heating of the kanthal wire then with the actual wick. all along alumina was said to be the make up of these wicks, so this really isnt anything new for most, but i guess lately the lead question was asked. personaaly i do believe the information that i recieved is truthful, and that these fc-2000 wicks do not contain any lead.
 

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Yeah OK your first on the list if I create a list and if I decide to make them for sale but for now let me make one first, see what it turns out like, it's going to take some time, the switch is where the issue is... the rest is fine... but that being said if I can keep the switch nice and short I estimate around the 60mm length for the 18350 size trying to limit the wasted space area looking at other mods etc... for example the smoktech natural has what I would call 15mm too much length that could have been avoided but heh its a cheap mod in comparison to others out there....

Ive sketched up a few switches already, going to try and make them see how much effort is involved, if it works out I will have a friend of mine who is in manufacturing to give me a price on making bulk parts.

The issue is making a lock for the switch, otherwise a plunger is very simple to design, just a spring and a tube to pass through is simplistic but making the locking mechanism and keeping the overall length down is difficult.

Anyway back to the topic of this thread

I think I might get some fish stix and start making some wicks because I have rebuildables here and not enough wicks for them.
The FC2000's are good, but we have to wait so long for them and they arent exactly cheap...

one of the guys at the office who was with me during the torching today said why not make it out of sandstone and be done with it...
so I ask has anyone tried sandstone?

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thanks for giving that material a go. about the mod you maybe attempting, i would like to see a vv, protected mod with maybe a 9-amp / 20-25 watt limit. wouldnt this be great? i heard something about a dual dna20 chipset that might produce something like this, for me it would be the holy grail in mods. when will you have this ready for me? lol
 

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So I have been vaping off of several attys with ceramic. There is one set-up that I keep coming back to...the Cobra with a 3/32 FC-2000 wick using .8mm ribbon kanthal at .8ohms. This set up also performs better overall on a provari than on a mechanical.

I think the combination of a number of factors together are driving this. The power limiting effect of the provari, the lower heat sink effect of the wick, the right amount of gap between the wick and wick hole and the length of the Cobra wick hole. The 3/32 just doesn't need 20 watts of power. :2c:

gdeal, did you hot wrap this ribbon on the 3/32 wick? when i did your ribbon i used it on a 1/8 wick and used the drill bit triangle trick, sorry i forgot the named method, anyways it came out pretty good but not tight tight. how many wraps are on this 3/32 wick? if its the 28g equivalent you must have a ton of wraps, no? or am i getting the comparisons wrong again and the .8 ribbon equivalent to 30g.
 

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thanks for giving that material a go. about the mod you maybe attempting, i would like to see a vv, protected mod with maybe a 9-amp / 20-25 watt limit. wouldnt this be great? i heard something about a dual dna20 chipset that might produce something like this, for me it would be the holy grail in mods. when will you have this ready for me? lol

Hey Vap, I got a Vamo yesterday. With paired 18350s the limits come off and if you run it in voltage mode you can crank it all the way up to 6v with low res coils. Man it hisses like a snake! Instant on and tons of vapor. You need to use short bursts to stop going too hot but it is a ton of fun! For $40 bucks it was a bargain. Another great thing a bout it is you don't keep slipping in and out of menus like you do on the Provari if you work the button a bit. Highly recommend this mod for dollars.
 

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Thanks for following up on that. Alumina (or aluminium) is a single element and there is nothing that makes it up other than AL. Aluminium oxide would be AL2O3. Maybe he means that other ingredients utilized during the process are eliminated leaving basically pure AL2O3?

i think your correct. i wasnt sure if it was something that was ommitted before firing or like you said that by the hi temps some of the initial elements are burned away. chemestry was not my best subject
 

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Hey Vap, I got a Vamo yesterday. With paired 18350s the limits come off and if you run it in voltage mode you can crank it all the way up to 6v with low res coils. Man it hisses like a snake! Instant on and tons of vapor. You need to use short bursts to stop going too hot but it is a ton of fun! For $40 bucks it was a bargain. Another great thing a bout it is you don't keep slipping in and out of menus like you do on the Provari if you work the button a bit. Highly recommend this mod for dollars.

didnt know that with the vamo, i always thought you had to stack batterys in a mechanical mod for that. so by doing the 2 18350 battery thing, is the mod still protected? or is it like a mechanical mod at that point?
 

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Hey Vap, I got a Vamo yesterday. With paired 18350s the limits come off and if you run it in voltage mode you can crank it all the way up to 6v with low res coils. Man it hisses like a snake! Instant on and tons of vapor. You need to use short bursts to stop going too hot but it is a ton of fun! For $40 bucks it was a bargain. Another great thing a bout it is you don't keep slipping in and out of menus like you do on the Provari if you work the button a bit. Highly recommend this mod for dollars.

+ 1 on the VAMO...biggest bang for the buck out there right now (IMHO). I love its flexibility (VV VW, RMS, etc) runs 510 & even the EGo carts without any adapters. Runs any combination of batteries you want also.
Its my go-to MOD for experimenting with various RBA/coils/etc.
 
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The gurgle is probably juice getting by the wick and to the air hole. I had this problem with over-tilting my T+ with the FC2000 3/32 wick. Juice would get by and get into the air hole if I tilted it too far. Are you getting juice in your top cap? More than usual is what I mean.

yes i do believe that some of the juice is getting past the wick to the airhole. by taking out the bushing in the rsst it becomes to large of a hole for a 1/8 wick. good news is i believe the bushing can be installed back, or just make a wick a little larger then 1/8.
 

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+ 1 on the VAMO...biggest bang for the buck out there right now (IMHO). I love its flexibility (VV VW, RMS, etc) runs 510 & even the EGo carts without any adapters. Its my go-to MOD for experimenting with various RBA/coils/etc.

been looking for another vv mod, this sounds like the ticket
 

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yes i do believe that some of the juice is getting past the wick to the airhole. by taking out the bushing in the rsst it becomes to large of a hole for a 1/8 wick. good news is i believe the bushing can be installed back, or just make a wick a little larger then 1/8.

Yep..the bushing goes right back in the RSST as long as you didn't deform it too badly when you took it out originally...just need to line it up straight & give it a few gentle taps with a small hammer. I just popped mine back in yesterday to play with some smaller (1/8 inch) wicks to see if I can eliminate some of the heat-sink effect. The new wick is not broken in yet, but so far it looks promising....
 

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gdeal, did you hot wrap this ribbon on the 3/32 wick? when i did your ribbon i used it on a 1/8 wick and used the drill bit triangle trick, sorry i forgot the named method, anyways it came out pretty good but not tight tight. how many wraps are on this 3/32 wick? if its the 28g equivalent you must have a ton of wraps, no? or am i getting the comparisons wrong again and the .8 ribbon equivalent to 30g.

Yes..did the hot wrap on the 3/32 ( with bare fingers.....lol). The coil is a 5/6 using .8mm = 28g round. With the .8mm ribbon, you really need to hit the wire harder with the blue flame to get it to take. I dont remember if I posted it earlier but this is the set-up. (You wouldn't believe what it looks like now, but I dont want to disturb it.)

 

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didnt know that with the vamo, i always thought you had to stack batterys in a mechanical mod for that. so by doing the 2 18350 battery thing, is the mod still protected? or is it like a mechanical mod at that point?

Not sure about protection on the mod. Protected batteries probably a good idea. I am using the ones they sent with it (came with two 18350s to use) don't know what they are but they are screaming along beautifully at the moment. The flashlight argument kind of gives me some peace about stacking batteries. We do it all the time and no one worries about blowing their hands off. I am following simple protocols of using matched pairs which seems to be a good idea. I tell you mate, it hits like a Mack truck. Grrreeaaatt!
 

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BTW, i have spoken to the maker of the fc-2000 wicks before. some time ago dsmooch and myself were wondering why in rip trippers video he seemed to have a much longer wick then what was available. this got us thinking that maybe the fc-2000 wicks were just merely a fish stick. we were a little angered that we had purchased an ac-9 from rip and also spent money on a wick that rip was pushing and the wicks that we recieved were to dam short. after posting some of our displeasures and trying to contact rip about this, i was contacted by the man who produces them. i guess rip had contacted him about some crazy israeli guy leaving some emails, lol. anyways, the extra long wick that rip had was a promo wick and eventually they would produce one to specifically fit the ac-9, which they have. anyways, this is how i met this guy and he is a straight up dude, so i believe him about the composition of his wicks.
 
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