We've known this was coming, it just looks like we're finally to the point that we will know for certain within the next three months
exactly how the FDA proposes to handle our ecigs.
We can still hope for the best, but reality tells me we'd better prepare for the worse.
Up to this point the FDA has never given the slightest hint of anything positive toward our e-cigs.
What boggles my mind the most DC2 is how many people here on ECF don't take seriously what kind of negative impact the Deeming order and regulations can have on our vaping world.
I am in total agreement with your views. A lot of the new vapers are grossly concerned with their new toys, finding the right stuff and learning how to succeed, and are just not aware of the other parts of the forum where legislative agendas and media appear. In the main section our items get swallowed up by the sheer numbers of other posts. New vapers may necessarily have a much more narrow view of vaping in the beginning due to the novelty of vaping, the complexity of all the gear choices, the sheer numbers of posts in the forum and a need to get themselves safely on the vaping path, and I doubt seriously that many think this can all come to a crashing halt. They need to wake up and smell the coffee.
Some of us have been beating the drum for some time but few new vapers seem to listen. Very few know the history of CASAA, what has happened before, how many times we've fought the beast in various locations.
The anti smoking ideologues changed practice on us recently and started using a more 'grass roots type movement' by going to the health departments in counties, states et al to get new bans in local areas from which to build on. That type of activity puts us in a reactive mode rather than a proactive mode. It's hard to keep track of all the activity going on in the local areas. We generally don't find out about them until they are up for vote, have been voted on, or hit a news outlet that comes to our attention. This reminds me of the whack a mole game, you whack one somewhere and 3 more pop up elsewhere.
HOW do we get new vapers attention?
Really? There are people who know about the deeming regulations and don't take them seriously?
They must be people who DIY, and figure they can smuggle in juice, and don't care about anyone else.
DC2 I am most often in accord with your views, but I think your DIY statement is divisive and we need all the troops out front now.
We have, in print, in the ECF, stated what the probable outcomes may be, who is behind most of it, what we can do to try to change that, and nothing much seems to have any effect on the mass of forum members. I go to CASAA meetings and there are less than 40 people most meetings. This is no way to win a war.
I have also been very public about my stockpiling of atties, cartos, nic etc in fear of the outcome, but that DOES NOT MEAN I have quit working for what we all want, the FDA to get off our backs. I read extensively on the net daily to see what is happening, I write letters and talk to locals, I try to help new vapers and I am still committed to the cause. The largest change has been to move a lot of my effort to the video chat vaping programs to try to help new vapers there and educate them about the realities of what may be coming and solicit enlistments to the cause we all believe in. They seem to have more interest in that venue, for some reason, than here on ECF in the forum new member and general areas. Perhaps because the venues are smaller with less distractions.
I ask the same question as before, HOW do we get new vapers to realize how much jeopardy we are all in and how fast we can be denied our right to vape and be healthier individuals. HOW do we get them motivated and get them to become vocal vapers where it counts.
