After thinking about it, maybe shouldn't have posted that to further broadcast it. But at any rate, I'm sure there will be a way around it they will find.
When the FDA posts its Demon Regulations ...
Many threads will include many "Work Around" and Rant posts.
Until then ... It's a waiting game.
See previous post (#20): Click HereIf this is to be regulated under "tobacco products", wouldn't that only effect the nicotine. We should still be able to get supplies, pv's, nic-free liquid, tanks, etc. There's no tax/regulation on rolling papers, cigarette rollers, filters, pipes etc. Of course you have to be 18 to purchase but the FDA has no hand in the sale or distribution of these things.
If I wanted I can go to many places/stores/gas stations/headshops and buy legal supplies for things that are illegal, even though they are marketed as "for tobacco use".
The am mostly just worried about nic! I'm not sure if I can get by on nic-free liquid. I think 50% of my smoking problem was the nic and the other 50% was the act of smoking something.
My plan is to stock up on lower nic level liquid and have higher nic for when I absolutely need it and just ween myself off of it. May be easier said than done. Of course that would most likely only be the case if these deeming regulations do turn out to be "demon" regulations.
As long as the Internet remains Free ... I have total faith in the ECF networkIt will be interesting just what these "Workarounds" may be.
The latter is true as far as I know.I was understanding under the appellate court decision that the court in that case held that extracted nicotine was a tobacco product. However, I've seen other members here say that the court never really held that but instead simply suggested that had the fda tried to go that route, the tobacco product route, they might have some ground to stand on. But since they went the drug delivery device route they were out of luck because of the tobacco laws. Which is true?
The patches and gum are classified as FDA-approved drug delivery devices.How do other nicotine delivery systems get classified? I can easily mail order patches and gum, and have only to show a photo ID when I buy them in a store. I don't believe they are taxed like cigarettes but I may be wrong.
Bill Godshall has indicated in the past that if the FDA issues "deeming" regulations, there are people prepared to file lawsuits...What is the likelihood that after the FDA announces "whatever they plan to do" in april, that another lawsuit will be filed by one of the large manufacturers like last time? Would that delay any action they could take while it was in the legal system?
Bill Godshall has indicated in the past that if the FDA issues "deeming" regulations, there are people prepared to file lawsuits...
No further details have been made available.
Unfortunately, I do not agree with Vape Nerd and jkos (but I certainly do hope they are right). I think there are quite a few DIYers out there. Why else would all these vendors be selling CONCENTRATES? I truly believe that if the FDA issues regulations, it will include nicotine.
I'm not scared yet. I guess, it would help to see the deeming regulations to get that fear thing going on for me.
Unless someone has inside information they aren't sharing, I don't see concern for outright banning which equals no possible way to obtain eCig products / liquid nicotine.