FDA Takes On Mayonnaise

[RobbyRocket]

I'm surprised the FDA doesn't deem chapstick as a tobacco product at this point. They're out of control. Sometimes I seriously wished I lived in the 1940s or 50s.

 

[crxess]

Only when presented (sold) as ejuice.

Vegetable glycerine and propylene glycol are not exclusive to ejuice.

Ejuice probably accounts for less than 1% of VG and PG sales.

They can't and won't classify VG and PG as tobacco products unless presented as such.

The automotive industry alone uses more PG in a year than ejuice makers will use in 2 decades.

Agree, that is why I believe they will be targeting anything equipped to deliver. Any Personal Vapor device capable of vaporizing an e-liquid.

They will also Likely Define an E-liquid in a way to cover almost any usage related to vaporizing.

We may be many, many Guppies - But these are Sharks we are dealing with.
They have one goal, never ending $$$ flow

 

[englishmick]

I'd like a link to where the fda says VG w/out nicotine is classified as a tobacco product plz.

I did say flavored VG. As of July next year flavored e-juice will fall under the Indiana State regs whether it has nicotine in it or not. Can't think of any uses for strawberry flavored VG other than vaping. There's no way they could allow that, it would put a bit of a kink in their enforcement efforts if they had to test for nicotine before they could bust a vaper. But yeah, you got me on the FDA thing, since the FDA hasn't published its rules yet.

Anyway, I was just having a bit of fun. I do that sometimes. Maybe I need to insert a smiley.

 

[Bunnykiller]

Do we really need to sink to the level of propaganda and other made up "facts"?

yes.... its fun to watch people loose their minds

 

[zoiDman]

I'm surprised the FDA doesn't deem chapstick as a tobacco product at this point. They're out of control. Sometimes I seriously wished I lived in the 1940s or 50s.

Just curious?

Where does the FDA get their Legal Authority to Regulate Anything?

 

[Bunnykiller]

Only when presented (sold) as ejuice.

Vegetable glycerine and propylene glycol are not exclusive to ejuice.

Ejuice probably accounts for less than 1% of VG and PG sales.

They can't and won't classify VG and PG as tobacco products unless presented as such.

The automotive industry alone uses more PG in a year than ejuice makers will use in 2 decades.

so thats what the "New Car" smell is...

 

[Bad Ninja]

I did say flavored VG. As of July next year flavored e-juice will fall under the Indiana State regs whether it has nicotine in it or not. Can't think of any uses for strawberry flavored VG other than vaping. There's no way they could allow that, it would put a bit of a kink in their enforcement efforts if they had to test for nicotine before they could bust a vaper. But yeah, you got me on the FDA thing, since the FDA hasn't published its rules yet.

Anyway, I was just having a bit of fun. I do that sometimes. Maybe I need to insert a smiley.

I DIY.
My flavors are mixed with PG. They are food flavorings.
The FDA cannot and will not label all food flavorings as tobacco products.

Again, better learn to DIY unless you are good with paying crazy taxes.

 

[edyle]

maybe the fda should go after veggie burgers!

hey, if the go after 'mayonnaise' that doesn't have eggs, maybe they should go after ecigarettes that doesn't have tobacco!

 

[David Wolf]

Someone is selling vegan mayonnaise. The FDA says they can't call it mayonnaise because it doesn't contain eggs.

But they will still classify my Protank and bottle of flavored VG as tobacco products.

FDA Wages War on Vegan Mayo

Actually I agree calling it "just mayo" is misleading to the consumer. If it said Vegan Mayo then I would see no problem.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Actually I agree calling it "just mayo" is misleading to the consumer. If it said Vegan Mayo then I would see no problem.

I think think the issue is calling it mayonnaise.
It's presented as something it clearly is not in order to sell it at a profit.
That's dishonest.

 

[zoiDman]

I think think the issue is calling it mayonnaise.
It's presented as something it clearly is not in order to sell it at a profit.
That's dishonest.

I think this Pretty Much Nails it.

BTW - I like this Better than Mayonnaise.

 

[Bad Ninja]

I think this Pretty Much Nails it.

BTW - I like this Better than Mayonnaise.

Me too.
Notice they don't call it Mayonnaise!

 

[twgbonehead]

Seems like total BS to me. After all, they are calling it "Mayo", not "Mayonnaise".

I wonder if the FDA's next target is going to be the Mayo Clinic?

 

[crxess]

Just curious?

Where does the FDA get their Legal Authority to Regulate Anything?

Congress
Text - H.R.2058 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): FDA Deeming Authority Clarification Act of 2015 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

21 USC 387a: FDA authority over tobacco products

FDA almost has Carte Blanche

 

[Bad Ninja]

Seems like total BS to me. After all, they are calling it "Mayo", not "Mayonnaise".

I wonder if the FDA's next target is going to be the Mayo Clinic?

If they start selling vegan spread as Mayo, then they should.

However the Mayo clinic is named after Dr William Mayo, so the connection isn't there.

It's about defrauding the buyer by misrepresenting a product sold at profit.

Dishonesty is frowned upon in a civilized society.

 

[zoiDman]

Congress
Text - H.R.2058 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): FDA Deeming Authority Clarification Act of 2015 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

21 USC 387a: FDA authority over tobacco products

FDA almost has Carte Blanche

So Congress is the One who gives the FDA the Legal Authority to Do what they Do.

Interesting.

 

[twgbonehead]

If they start selling vegan spread as Mayo, then they should.

However the Mayo clinic is named after Dr William Mayo, so the connection isn't there.

It's about defrauding the buyer by misrepresenting a product sold at profit.

Dishonesty is frowned upon in a civilized society.

Ninja,

The point I was trying to make is this:
"Mayonnaise" is a protected term. In order to call something Mayonnaise, the recipe has to fit particular parameters.
Not that long ago, the FDA allowed manufacturers to sell "Light Mayonnaise", which allows them to deviate from the recipe
by using a lower fat/calorie recipe. (Before that, Kraft came out with "Imitation Mayonnaise", which today could have been called "Lite Mayonnaise".
It was delicious, but the product failed because of the name).

To the best of my knowledge, "Mayo" is not a protected term. I have never seen a bottle of real mayonnaise that was called "Mayo" anything.

 

[Jman8]

Last time I checked the fda is after juice with nicotine.

Where are you getting this information from?

They are flat out misrepresenting the product by using misleading labeling and wording. It is not mayo.

Your protank is a nicotine delivery device, no different then a pipe filled with tobacco. Since 90% if not more of our nicotine is in fact tobacco based, it is fair to label the devices as delivery systems.

Please make that connection stronger for why devices are to be considered, in all instances, delivery systems for a nicotine product. It reads very weakly here.

If mayo products are delivered in the same type of jar, then doesn't that make whatever inside "mayo." That's how much sense your current rendition of delivery system makes.

 

[hiram13pm]

Tofu Mayo

Mofu?

 

[stevegmu]

So Congress is the One who gives the FDA the Legal Authority to Do what they Do.

Interesting.

Of course. Congress is tasked with regulating commerce...