Because perhaps at the moment they only have 60 bucks to spend
First time on the recieving end of ProVari hate
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Because perhaps at the moment they only have 60 bucks to spend
What is true for you isn't true for everyone.
When the knowledge is a opinion and wasn't asked for.
For example: You are saved and believe the influence of (insert your deity(ies) here) is the best thing that ever happened to you. Fabulous. I would not appreciate your input on a thread about the impact of monotheism on polytheistic cultures unless you had a point to make other than you wished you had been saved years ago and hadn't wasted all that time sacrificing goats.
But even if they did, they still might prefer a different mod. There are actually a couple of things I like about my Twists more than my ProVari.
If that were the case I'd have way more than just this one
And I wouldnt be sitting her rationalizing with my wife to let me get one
I am so with ya on this one! I adore my Twists, and love my wooden babies, and love my $15. Ovale (hits like no other device I own). Does the Provari take a back seat? Nah. They all get loved on, or they get moved on to someone who will.
Might be fun to keep it, Mike, seriously. A year or two from now when you're searching thru your acreage of vape toys, you'll come across it and sigh softly... 'those were the days'...
The only reason I started with KGO's is because I wanted to be SURE I would like it, stick with it and be able to actually use e-cigs before buying a more expensive mod...a year into it I finally got it
I am loaning out the KGO's to friend to try out (2 have been broken now and I'm down to 3) and would probably refer them to Hoosiers to buy their starter kits only because $200 is a lot to shell out when you don't know if you'll really stick with it. Several of my friends like it but not enough to drop that kind of money on it. Unfortunately some of my friends will use it for indoor use only then smoke outside as well when they get the chance. :/
The only reason I started with KGO's is because I wanted to be SURE I would like it, stick with it and be able to actually use e-cigs before buying a more expensive mod...a year into it I finally got it
I don't regret my eGo's either, much the same as you I bought an eGo-T kit to see if I would like vaping. What I regret was buying cheap big battery mods because I was lead to believe they would be just as good as the high end devices. I've had three so called ProVari killers that just don't deserve that moniker. the ProV is better built, better backed, and provides a more consistent level of performance. I would not suggest a ProV to a raw noob, but will to those looking to move up from the disposable batteries like the eGo.
I still use my eGo's when a good stealth vape is needed.
I own an ego-t pass thru, yj, yj pass thru, a legacy mini and my provari mini. I use the ego at the computer, and my ProVari and Legacy mini every where else. I plan on rehoming my yj's but my other ones get the love. I can stealth vape with any of these 3.
Very well put
just ordered a Pro pass through..tired of having batts die at the worse possible time and me forgetting extra batts
I used to hate Apple computer lovers until I bought one. Now I get it.
Provape, forgive them, for they know not what they are missing
Provape, forgive them, for they know not what they are missing
As someone who has been into high-end audio for over 2 decades, and has been the target of "Krell-haters", "Martin Logan Haters", "Nordost Haters" and "Sumiko Haters", I can sympathize. But I can also offer a bit of insight into what is behind a lot of the hating on expensive high-end items like hand-made speaker cables, NASA-grade preamplifiers, and ProVaris....
Some of it is jealousy. We live in a society that often puts a premium on material success, regardless of how deserving the success may be. And many people who are not financially well-off are VERY hard-working and feel (rightly so) that many of the more "financially well-off" people in our society have gotten where they are by ripping hard-working people off, by stealing the products of their labor, screwing them with unfair wages, and generally being scum-bag 1%-ers.
Not all rich people are ......... sociopaths--just like not all poor people are inbred rednecks. But many are (in both cases...). And because of the weird love-hate relationship that our culture has with material success, people with nice things are often the target of misplaced frustration, indignation and hatred of people who are less successful. In other words, some people hate Provari's simply because of the fact that they are expensive, and represent a level of financial success that they may never attain, or because they represent a class of people who they perceive have succeeded by ripping them off.
But a LARGE part of the hate comes from the attitude of people who have these high-end devices. When we finally get our hands on these "state-of-the-art" toys, we realize that everything else out there is pretty much crap, and we feel the need to "preach the gospel" to the world about the joys of owning nice things. Some people can do this with grace, kindness and inclusiveness. But many people are just not that socially skilled and sensitive, and end up coming across as elitist, preachy douchebags. Nobody likes to be preached at, and people EXPECIALLY don't like being told that the gear they have is crap (especially if they LIKE what they have). So the "hating" begins.
I have some pretty serious stereo gear. I have speakers that retailed for more than my first two cars combined. I have amplifiers that you can arc-weld with, and retailed for more than a semester's tuition to some State Universities. My rig sounds AMAZING--it performs like nothing you've ever heard in a "big box" store. In fact, it sounds more "real" than most systems that most people have ever heard (unless you hang out with a lot of audiophiles).
And yes, I've been on the receiving end of plenty of hate for it, because people see it as an extravagance, or as being wasteful, or as being elitists, or whatever.
But when I tell them that I got all this FANTASTIC gear over a period of nearly 20 years, and bought almost all of it used at significant discounts, and that it probably costs less than their Sony or Bose or Onkyo rig, the attitude changes. When they see that I've dedicated a lot of time, research, and patience assembling this rig, and that I paid less for it than the mediocre crap they bought at Best Buys, it's an entirely different ballgame.
Many Provari owners make the mistake of letting their zeal get the better of their social skills. They are so proud of their high-end PVs, and are so amazed at the improved quality of the vape it provides that they just walk right over everyone else's sensibilities to "preach the gospel". They forget that not everyone has $200 to drop on a mod (and as much or more to spend on high-end tanks and RBAs). They forget that not everyone is as dedicated to pursuing the "perfect vape" as they are. And so they get preachy. They sound elitist. They say snarky things about other people's less-expensive mods.
And so the hate begins.
The moral of this story is that it's OK to own expensive toys. Some people become so obsessed with that "perfect experience" that they are willing to go to any length to achieve it, and that is OK.
Just don't let your excitement, your zeal, and your passion get the better of your social skills.
Don't be snarky. Don't belittle that guy with the 901 stick battery, or that girl with the eGo plastered with rhinestones and Hello Kitty stickers. Different people have different priorities. Different people have different tastes. And different people have different budgets.
Remember that it is the wonderful diversity of Vaping that makes it fun for everyone.
It's OK to to want to share the amazing performance of your Provari with others. Just don't be a condescending, snarky, elitist douchenozzle about it.
If more people understood this, the hating would drop off dramatically...
Some of it is jealousy. We live in a society that often puts a premium on material success, regardless of how deserving the success may be. And many people who are not financially well-off are VERY hard-working and feel (rightly so) that many of the more "financially well-off" people in our society have gotten where they are by ripping hard-working people off, by stealing the products of their labor, screwing them with unfair wages, and generally being scum-bag 1%-ers.
Not all rich people are ......... sociopaths--just like not all poor people are inbred rednecks. But many are (in both cases...). And because of the weird love-hate relationship that our culture has with material success, people with nice things are often the target of misplaced frustration, indignation and hatred of people who are less successful. In other words, some people hate Provari's simply because of the fact that they are expensive, and represent a level of financial success that they may never attain, or because they represent a class of people who they perceive have succeeded by ripping them off.
But a LARGE part of the hate comes from the attitude of people who have these high-end devices. When we finally get our hands on these "state-of-the-art" toys, we realize that everything else out there is pretty much crap, and we feel the need to "preach the gospel" to the world about the joys of owning nice things. Some people can do this with grace, kindness and inclusiveness. But many people are just not that socially skilled and sensitive, and end up coming across as elitist, preachy douchebags. Nobody likes to be preached at, and people EXPECIALLY don't like being told that the gear they have is crap (especially if they LIKE what they have). So the "hating" begins.
I have some pretty serious stereo gear. I have speakers that retailed for more than my first two cars combined. I have amplifiers that you can arc-weld with, and retailed for more than a semester's tuition to some State Universities. My rig sounds AMAZING--it performs like nothing you've ever heard in a "big box" store. In fact, it sounds more "real" than most systems that most people have ever heard (unless you hang out with a lot of audiophiles).
And yes, I've been on the receiving end of plenty of hate for it, because people see it as an extravagance, or as being wasteful, or as being elitists, or whatever.
But when I tell them that I got all this FANTASTIC gear over a period of nearly 20 years, and bought almost all of it used at significant discounts, and that it probably costs less than their Sony or Bose or Onkyo rig, the attitude changes. When they see that I've dedicated a lot of time, research, and patience assembling this rig, and that I paid less for it than the mediocre crap they bought at Best Buys, it's an entirely different ballgame.
Many Provari owners make the mistake of letting their zeal get the better of their social skills. They are so proud of their high-end PVs, and are so amazed at the improved quality of the vape it provides that they just walk right over everyone else's sensibilities to "preach the gospel". They forget that not everyone has $200 to drop on a mod (and as much or more to spend on high-end tanks and RBAs). They forget that not everyone is as dedicated to pursuing the "perfect vape" as they are. And so they get preachy. They sound elitist. They say snarky things about other people's less-expensive mods.
And so the hate begins.
The moral of this story is that it's OK to own expensive toys. Some people become so obsessed with that "perfect experience" that they are willing to go to any length to achieve it, and that is OK.
Just don't let your excitement, your zeal, and your passion get the better of your social skills.
Don't be snarky. Don't belittle that guy with the 901 stick battery, or that girl with the eGo plastered with rhinestones and Hello Kitty stickers. Different people have different priorities. Different people have different tastes. And different people have different budgets.
Remember that it is the wonderful diversity of Vaping that makes it fun for everyone.
It's OK to to want to share the amazing performance of your Provari with others. Just don't be a condescending, snarky, elitist douchenozzle about it.
If more people understood this, the hating would drop off dramatically...
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