The biggest difference I notice between the two is the "sweetness" of the flavor is definitely higher in the Fogger. If you have any juices that you like to taste sweet, definitely try them in the Fogger.
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The biggest difference I notice between the two is the "sweetness" of the flavor is definitely higher in the Fogger. If you have any juices that you like to taste sweet, definitely try them in the Fogger.
Is there some secret to filling these things properly?
Seems that any time I fill it I get major gurgling until I manage to somehow clear it out.
Speaking of which, how are you guys clearing out a flooded gurgling chamber?
With the design of the air intake, it seems my usual solution for bottom coil devices (turn upside down, blow through airhole) won't really work on the Fogger.
Seems that any time I fill it I get major gurgling until I manage to somehow clear it out.
Speaking of which, how are you guys clearing out a flooded gurgling chamber?
With the design of the air intake, it seems my usual solution for bottom coil devices (turn upside down, blow through airhole) won't really work on the Fogger.
I always fill mine with the top cap off, and fill screw out, then assemble after fill, but I've not had flood issues filling with just fill screw. If I get lazy and don't remove the fill screw and get some minor flood I just tip it vertically, with one of the wick holes down, after a few hits it clears itself, and I continue normally.
Works for me, but others seem to have a bunch of issues so YMMV..
If I'm using 100 VG Juice I'll even vape with the top cap completely removed, doing that now mmmm, max saturation, might bet a bit of occasional flooding this way though, but the clouds and saturation are worth it!
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When you refer to "top cap" are you talking about the actual metal piece that has the fill screw in it, and o-ring that seals against the glass tube?
Are you really vaping it with no upper seal on the glass at all? I am guessing you need to keep this upright all the time right heh?
I guess at that point your just using it like a dripper with a huge open tank?
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Yes with 100% VG, such as Boba's, or the Custard I vape, top cap with fill screw completely removed, just the outer SS in place, I've laid it down a few times, never had any leaks, I suppose your dripper analogy is somewhat correct. I've not tried it with thinner juices, but suspect it would be mass flooding. I tend to stick with highest VG as possible due to throat irritation, it works great for me.
I've not used that flimsy O-ring under the chimney cap since I got my first V2, always just screwed down tight, I accidentally left it very slightly loose the other day, and as soon as I hit it, I knew something was wrong, terrible gurgling, which led to a pretty bad flood, realized my mistake, tightened, tipped on the side to clear it, and all back to normal.
When I initially fill mine, before I put the chimney in place, I fully saturate the wick before I put it on, close the air flow tightly, assemble then fill. Since doing that, I've never had gurgling at the outset.
After that, when I refill, I almost always get some gurgle even if I make sure that the air control is very tightly closed. If I wait until juice is just at the wick before I refill, I generally don't get any flooding in the chamber. IF I do, or if I'm impatient and fill sooner, I tilt the device sideways and make sure I can see one of the wick holes pointing down and give it a few seconds. Then, I open the air flow fully, fire it, then tilt straight up once or twice and repeat. Not fully sideways, of course, since I got a mouth full of juice one time
By and large, the best suggestion I have is waiting to refill until it's just about completely out of juice.
After that, when I refill, I almost always get some gurgle even if I make sure that the air control is very tightly closed. If I wait until juice is just at the wick before I refill, I generally don't get any flooding in the chamber. IF I do, or if I'm impatient and fill sooner, I tilt the device sideways and make sure I can see one of the wick holes pointing down and give it a few seconds. Then, I open the air flow fully, fire it, then tilt straight up once or twice and repeat. Not fully sideways, of course, since I got a mouth full of juice one time
By and large, the best suggestion I have is waiting to refill until it's just about completely out of juice.
When I initially fill mine, before I put the chimney in place, I fully saturate the wick before I put it on, close the air flow tightly, assemble then fill. Since doing that, I've never had gurgling at the outset.
After that, when I refill, I almost always get some gurgle even if I make sure that the air control is very tightly closed. If I wait until juice is just at the wick before I refill, I generally don't get any flooding in the chamber. IF I do, or if I'm impatient and fill sooner, I tilt the device sideways and make sure I can see one of the wick holes pointing down and give it a few seconds. Then, I open the air flow fully, fire it, then tilt straight up once or twice and repeat. Not fully sideways, of course, since I got a mouth full of juice one time
By and large, the best suggestion I have is waiting to refill until it's just about completely out of juice.
My last fill, which flooded the worst, I waited till there was absolutely no juice in the tank at all, like I could see the wicks, and there was no juice around them at all.
My next fill I will do it before the tank is totally empty, but when it is close, and see how it does.
Almost lost my fill screw, which made me realize thatin the bag of extras, I don't seem to have a spare fill screw DOH!
Luckily I ended up finding it...
Luckily I ended up finding it...
Just partially filled it, while there was a wee bit of juice in the bottom around the wicks.
I also held the chimney hole shut with my finger while screwing the fill screw back in, and opened the AFC up with the device tilted on its side, this time I didn't really get any flooding at all, and this is even with a 90/10 pg/vg juice!
I wish it had a fill plug, with a little re-sealing needle fill hole like the Pheonix bottom coil cartos (ce4 i think?) Where we would just turn it upside down, and shoot in a few ml.
Granted then you would HAVE to use a needle to fill, but I do anyways these days.
I also held the chimney hole shut with my finger while screwing the fill screw back in, and opened the AFC up with the device tilted on its side, this time I didn't really get any flooding at all, and this is even with a 90/10 pg/vg juice!
I wish it had a fill plug, with a little re-sealing needle fill hole like the Pheonix bottom coil cartos (ce4 i think?) Where we would just turn it upside down, and shoot in a few ml.
Granted then you would HAVE to use a needle to fill, but I do anyways these days.
Yes, it would be nice to fill these upside down with a syringe through a silicone plug, I've been thinking about just how to do that.
The fill valve that Kayfun 3.1 (or clone) uses just might be the ticket but where to get them?
The fill valve that Kayfun 3.1 (or clone) uses just might be the ticket but where to get them?
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I have the wick/chimney o ring off.
I think I mentioned this in my post but my build gurgled and flooded 3x before it finally stabilized. each time I had to clean out the AFC section of the juice that went down there. FINALLY after the 3rd cleaning of the AFC, it vaped quite well to me.
Generally speaking, once I have a wick in place that doesnt flood and does wick and the fogger is working satisfactory, I fill using the fill screw and a syringe or needle tip bottle. the kind where air can escape from the fill hole while the juice goes in. Those bigger nipple tip bottles kind of seal the fill hole, so theres no place for the air to go, and that causes problems.
I've tried removing the whole top, that usually ends up causing flooding more times than not. The syringe however usually works fine each time. No gurgle, no flood, just good vape.
I just slipped a little silicon o-ring I had over the tank and set it into the top gap of the AFC wheel while AFC was fully closed.
This has helped my loose AFC quite a bit, and removed the top half of its travel, which didnt produce any change in airflow anyway.
It still is loose, but a whole lot better with this easy little fix.
You can see the white o-ring there in the AFC.
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This has helped my loose AFC quite a bit, and removed the top half of its travel, which didnt produce any change in airflow anyway.
It still is loose, but a whole lot better with this easy little fix.
You can see the white o-ring there in the AFC.
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What size ekowool should i get? I did a quick scan here and 3mm sounds too big and smallest size is 1mm. Is 1mm too small? I want to try something besides cotton for less maintenance. I might even get regular silica too. I can't find xc116 so i guess that's my only choices
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Ekowool comes as small as 1 mm and larger than 3. XC-116 is the same physical size as 3 mm Ekowool
I got 1.5 mm ecowool, which is roughly equivilent to 3mm silica from what I understand.
Seems to be working great.
I dont think 3mm is too big? but you can always settle for 2mm..... I seem to remember getting a build working with 3mm... but with the wick inside the chamber, none poking out of the juice holes... but I'm not 100% sure, I've rebuilt this thing so many times with various amounts of success and failure.
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